BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 http://www.eas.slu.edu/CIPS/ANALOG/stats.php?reg=EC&model=GFS212&fhr=F096&flg= Thanks! Clown map: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 You sure the winds were strong enough? I know for certain that BUF verified a blizzard in the January 2008 wind storm but there was no warning issued. Also, places east of Lake Ontario verified a blizzard in February 2007, but there wasn't one issued then. The general set-up and conditions look similar to January 1985, to me. Here is the obs for that day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Here is the obs for that day. I remember that storm well... Tried driving to Target to get a shovel for my new apartment. I nearly didn't make it home. That was the definition of truly whiteout conditions. http://www.erh.noaa.gov/buf/lakeffect/lake0809/h/stormsumh.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 pretty cool that Dec. 1995 shows up in the objective analogs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 pretty cool that Dec. 1995 shows up in the objective analogs. I lived on the west side of Buffalo during that storm. I actually have pictures of it somewhere I have to find them. I was 8 years old. That storm was the reason I became fascinated with the weather. Me and my uncle jumped off the 2nd story of our house into a huge snowpile. 38 inches of snow in 24 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I lived on the west side of Buffalo during that storm. I actually have pictures of it somewhere I have to find them. I was 8 years old. That storm was the reason I became fascinated with the weather. Me and my uncle jumped off the 2nd story of our house into a huge snowpile. 38 inches of snow in 24 hours. Can't remember ****,i was only 3 lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 BUF's forecast high temp of 3 degrees on Tuesday I believe would be the coldest daily maximum temperature since the January 1994 arctic outbreak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Skilling facebook, thought this was interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 when is the time frame on that bufweather? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 when is the time frame on that bufweather? Through Monday Morning I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Marusak Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Hamilton and Niagara got a fair bit. I heard reports of 10-12". at least I nailed that one. thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 pretty cool that Dec. 1995 shows up in the objective analogs. DURING MONDAY WE WILL SEE THE TRANSITION OF THE DEEPENING LOWSHIFTING NORTH INTO QUEBEC AND A STRENGTHENING 260 DEGREE WESTERLY FLOW DEVELOPING ACROSS THE LAKES. TEMPERATURES AT 850MB ARE FORECAST TO DROP WELL BELOW -20C...EVEN TO -30C OVER WESTERN PA...CREATING EXTREME LAKE INDUCED INSTABILITY...LAKE INDUCED CAPE GREATER THAN 1200 J/KG...WITH OVER LAKE EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS RISING OVER 12KFT ON LAKE ERIE AND 15KFT ON LAKE ONTARIO. MUCH OF LAKE ERIE AND MOST OF LAKE ONTARIO REMAINS ICE FREE SO THE MOISTURE FLUX FROM THE LAKE WILL NOT BE LIMITED BY ICE COVER. MEAN WINDS WITHIN THE MIXED LAYER OF AROUND 30KTS OR SO WOULD EXTEND LAKE BANDS WELL INLAND FROM THE LAKES WITH BLOWING SNOW REDUCING VISIBILITIES TO NEAR ZERO AT TIMES. THIS APPEARS TO BE YET ANOTHER SIGNIFICANT AND PROLONGED LAKE EFFECT EVENT FOR THE SNOW BELTS EAST OF THE LAKES. SAINT LOUIS UNIVERSITY CIPS ANALOGS SHOW A STARTLING SIMILARITY BETWEEN THIS UPCOMING STORM AND A LAKE EFFECT STORM FROM 12/9-11/1995 WHICH DELIVERED MORE THAN THREE FEET OF SNOW TO METRO BUFFALO...ALTHOUGH IT MAY VERY WELL PLACE THE HEAVIEST SNOW TO THE SOUTH OF THE CITY. OUTSIDE OF THE LAKE EFFECT BANDS SCATTERED LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS AREPOSSIBLE WITH THE BIGGEST IMPACT BEING VERY COLD TEMPERATURES AND EXTREMELY COLD WIND CHILL TEMPERATURES. FORECAST TEMPERATURES WILL BE EVEN COLDER THAN WHAT WE ARE SEEING THIS FRIDAY AFTERNOON WITH FORECAST HIGHS STRUGGLING TO BREAK ABOVE ZERO FROM THE NIAGARA FRONTIER EAST TO CENTRAL NEW YORK. ACROSS THE SOUTHERN TIER REGION TEMPERATURES WILL LIKELY LINGER IN THE NEGATIVE READINGS THROUGH THE DAY. A TIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER NEW YORK BETWEEN A DEEP LOW OVER HUDSON BAY AND STRONG HIGH OVER THE DEEP SOUTH WILL KEEP 20 TO 30 MPH WINDS GUSTING THROUGH TUESDAY AND TUESDAY NIGHT. THESE WINDS WILL PRODUCE WIND CHILL TEMPERATURES 20 TO 40 DEGREES BELOW ZERO. SOME IMPROVEMENT WILL ARRIVE BY WEDNESDAY COMPARED TO TUESDAY BUT HIGHS WILL ONLY REACH INTO THE TEENS WITH SOME BREEZY WINDS KEEPING WIND CHILLS DOWN AROUND ZERO. MID TO LATE WEEK MODELS ARE SHOWING ANOTHER SYNOPTIC SYSTEM TRACKING FROM THE CENTRAL PLAINS EAST TO THE MID ATLANTIC. THIS TRACK WOULD KEEP NEW YORK ON THE COLD SIDE OF THE STORM BRINGING A CHANCE OF SNOW TO NEW YORK. HIGH TEMPERATURES LOOK TO RUN IN THE MID 20S AND OVERNIGHT LOWS IN THE TEENS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Looks like 12z nam shifted maybe 30 miles more west compared to 6z run thru hr 54. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 FWIW the 12z nam has the winds back to 245-250 for several hours on Monday and then again on Tuesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 12z NAM has the band strong over by the Metro by Tuesday 0z 12z GFS maybe a few miles more east, we're not coming to a consensus here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The mean flow is 260. I expect the band to hit the metro a few times, maybe even the north towns. But the SREFS and Euro all keep the mean flow mainly from 255-265. http://www.meteo.psu.edu/ewall/SREFPROBNE_3z/probsnwloop.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Yeh It looks like a Lackawanna to south towns special,a lot of times they under estimate how much backing occurs though so will have to wait and see Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 7:00 PM Monday Night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 A few people in the Lakes forum dismissed Joe Bastardi's claim that this could rival 1994. It looks like JB and Joe D'Aleo were right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakeeffectkid383 Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 The latest Lake Effect Snow Watch update from 3:42 pm now has snow accumulating 2 feet of more off lake Erie. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 NYZ012-019-020-085-050445- /O.CON.KBUF.LE.A.0001.140106T1600Z-140108T1100Z/ /O.CON.KBUF.WC.A.0003.140106T2000Z-140108T1500Z/ WYOMING-CHAUTAUQUA-CATTARAUGUS-SOUTHERN ERIE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WARSAW...JAMESTOWN...OLEAN... ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 ...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT... ...WIND CHILL WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING... * LOCATIONS...CHAUTAUQUA...CATTARAUGUS...SOUTHERN ERIE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES. * TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH. * HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS. * ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING MORE THAN 2 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS. * WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 40 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. * IMPACTS...TRAVEL WILL BECOME VERY DIFFICULT WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS AND VERY POOR VISIBILITY DUE TO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG WITH BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. LOCALIZED BLIZZARD CONDITIONS POSSIBLE AT TIMES. DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS WILL POSE A RISK FOR FROST BITE AND HYPOTHERMIA FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE FOR EVEN SHORT PERIODS OF TIME. * FORECASTER CONFIDENCE...MEDIUM TO HIGH. THERE REMAINS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE PLACEMENT AND INTENSITY OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. To me it certainly sounds like at least a Blizzard Watch should be issued, I mean what else could possibly warrant one? Temperatures well below zero, winds sustained in the 30mph range with total whiteouts and wind chills near -40F ! I understand they only want to use a Blizzard Warning for the most rare of cases but to me this upcoming even sure sounds like the one. A lot more significant than the Blizzard Warning that was issued on Long Island for winter storm "Hercules" a few days ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The latest Lake Effect Snow Watch update from 3:42 pm now has snow accumulating 2 feet of more off lake Erie. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 NYZ012-019-020-085-050445- /O.CON.KBUF.LE.A.0001.140106T1600Z-140108T1100Z/ /O.CON.KBUF.WC.A.0003.140106T2000Z-140108T1500Z/ WYOMING-CHAUTAUQUA-CATTARAUGUS-SOUTHERN ERIE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WARSAW...JAMESTOWN...OLEAN... ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 ...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT... ...WIND CHILL WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING... * LOCATIONS...CHAUTAUQUA...CATTARAUGUS...SOUTHERN ERIE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES. * TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH. * HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS. * ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING MORE THAN 2 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS. * WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 40 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. * IMPACTS...TRAVEL WILL BECOME VERY DIFFICULT WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS AND VERY POOR VISIBILITY DUE TO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG WITH BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. LOCALIZED BLIZZARD CONDITIONS POSSIBLE AT TIMES. DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS WILL POSE A RISK FOR FROST BITE AND HYPOTHERMIA FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE FOR EVEN SHORT PERIODS OF TIME. * FORECASTER CONFIDENCE...MEDIUM TO HIGH. THERE REMAINS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE PLACEMENT AND INTENSITY OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. To me it certainly sounds like at least a Blizzard Watch should be issued, I mean what else could possibly warrant one? Temperatures well below zero, winds sustained in the 30mph range with total whiteouts and wind chills near -40F ! I understand they only want to use a Blizzard Warning for the most rare of cases but to me this upcoming even sure sounds like the one. A lot more significant than the Blizzard Warning that was issued on Long Island for winter storm "Hercules" a few days ago. The winds were much stronger on Long Island during that storm. The rest of the watches: Northern Erie/GEN: * LOCATIONS...NORTHERN ERIE AND GENESEE COUNTIES.* TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH.* HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS.* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING ONE FOOT OR MORE IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS.* WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 30 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. Southern Erie/Southern Tier * LOCATIONS...CHAUTAUQUA...CATTARAUGUS...SOUTHERN ERIE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES.* TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH.* HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS.* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING MORE THAN 2 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS.* WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 40 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. Tug Hill counties: * LOCATIONS...OSWEGO COUNTY...MAINLY NORTHERN PORTIONS.* TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH.* HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS.* ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING MORE THAN 3 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS.* WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 30 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYwhiteout Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 7:00 PM Monday Night ----------------------------------- Where did you get that graphic? Could you please post the link? I live just west of Geneseo and it looks like that band will stretch pretty far inland. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 The latest Lake Effect Snow Watch update from 3:42 pm now has snow accumulating 2 feet of more off lake Erie. URGENT - WINTER WEATHER MESSAGE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE BUFFALO NY 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 NYZ012-019-020-085-050445- /O.CON.KBUF.LE.A.0001.140106T1600Z-140108T1100Z/ /O.CON.KBUF.WC.A.0003.140106T2000Z-140108T1500Z/ WYOMING-CHAUTAUQUA-CATTARAUGUS-SOUTHERN ERIE- INCLUDING THE CITIES OF...WARSAW...JAMESTOWN...OLEAN... ORCHARD PARK...SPRINGVILLE 342 PM EST SAT JAN 4 2014 ...LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT... ...WIND CHILL WATCH REMAINS IN EFFECT FROM MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING... * LOCATIONS...CHAUTAUQUA...CATTARAUGUS...SOUTHERN ERIE...AND WYOMING COUNTIES. * TIMING...MONDAY MORNING THROUGH LATE TUESDAY NIGHT FOR THE LAKE EFFECT SNOW WATCH. MONDAY AFTERNOON THROUGH WEDNESDAY MORNING FOR THE WIND CHILL WATCH. * HAZARDS...HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW...BLOWING SNOW WITH WHITEOUT CONDITIONS...AND DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS. * ACCUMULATIONS...SNOW POTENTIALLY ACCUMULATING MORE THAN 2 FEET IN THE MOST PERSISTENT LAKE SNOWS. * WIND CHILLS...AS COLD AS 40 BELOW ZERO AT TIMES. * IMPACTS...TRAVEL WILL BECOME VERY DIFFICULT WITH SNOW COVERED ROADS AND VERY POOR VISIBILITY DUE TO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW ALONG WITH BLOWING AND DRIFTING SNOW. LOCALIZED BLIZZARD CONDITIONS POSSIBLE AT TIMES. DANGEROUSLY COLD WIND CHILLS WILL POSE A RISK FOR FROST BITE AND HYPOTHERMIA FOR ANYONE OUTSIDE FOR EVEN SHORT PERIODS OF TIME. * FORECASTER CONFIDENCE...MEDIUM TO HIGH. THERE REMAINS SOME UNCERTAINTY ABOUT THE PLACEMENT AND INTENSITY OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW BANDS. To me it certainly sounds like at least a Blizzard Watch should be issued, I mean what else could possibly warrant one? Temperatures well below zero, winds sustained in the 30mph range with total whiteouts and wind chills near -40F ! I understand they only want to use a Blizzard Warning for the most rare of cases but to me this upcoming even sure sounds like the one. A lot more significant than the Blizzard Warning that was issued on Long Island for winter storm "Hercules" a few days ago. Watch also still in effect for Northern Erie and Genesee, although it looks like focus on this event will be to the south. Hopefully a shortwave or 2 can back the flow enough to at least get the band up to the airport for a time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 A nearly perfect NWS Forecast Discussion for snow lovers. I think we all will get our fair share of LES from this event. It starts Monday and does not end until Wednesday Evening. THOUGH THE DENDRITIC GROWTH ZONE WILL BE BELOW THE LAYER OF SYNOPTICMOISTURE...HEAT FLUX FROM THE LAKES AS WELL AS GOOD UPWARD LIFT OVERTHE LAKES SHOULD ENABLE HEALTHY BANDS OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW TOCONTINUE MONDAY AFTERNOON AND THROUGH TUESDAY NIGHT OFF BOTH LAKES.THE EXTREME LAKE INSTABILITY COMBINED WITH LAKE INDUCED EQUILIBRIUMLEVELS RISING TO OVER 10K SHOULD ALLOW THE SNOWBANDS OFF BOTH LAKESTO PRODUCE SNOWFALL RATES OVER SEVERAL INCHES PER HOUR. SEVERALSHORTWAVES CROSSING THROUGH THE LARGE SCALE TROUGH WILL OSCILLATE THESNOWBANDS...WITH THE SNOW BANDS LARGELY OVER THE SNOW BELTS AND ATTIMES LIFTING TOWARDS BUFFALO AND WATERTOWN. SEVERAL FEET OF SNOWARE LIKELY OFF LAKE ERIE...FOCUSING UPON SKI COUNTRY THROUGH THISEVENT. OFF LAKE ONTARIO SNOW TOTALS WILL LIKELY EXCEED 3 FEET OFSNOW WITH MONDAY NIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY THE HIGHLIGHTED TIMEPERIOD.GUSTY WINDS WILL DRIVE THESE SNOW BANDS WELL INLAND MONDAY NIGHT.THIS WOULD YIELD SEVERAL INCHES OF SNOW FROM THE LAKE EFFECTREACHING THE GENESEE VALLEY ON THE WESTERLY FLOW.COUPLED WITH THE LAKE SNOWS WILL BE EXTREME COLD THAT WHEN COUPLEDWITH THE WINDS WILL ONCE AGAIN BRING DANGEROUSLY LOW WIND CHILLS. ATIGHT PRESSURE GRADIENT OVER OUR REGION WILL KEEP GUSTY WINDSOVERNIGHT MONDAY NIGHT WHICH WILL YIELD WIND CHILL TEMPERATURES 20TO 30 DEGREES BELOW ZERO...AND POSSIBLY DOWN TOWARDS 40 BELOW ACROSSTHE SOUTHERN TIER. WIND CHILL WATCHES WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN EFFECT. IT WILL REMAIN COLD TUESDAY WITH SINGLE DIGIT HIGHS...AND ONWEDNESDAY THE CORE OF THE COLD AIR AND UPPER LEVEL TROUGH MOVESEASTWARD ALLOWING HIGHS ON WEDNESDAY TO MODERATE BACK INTO THETEENS. LAKE EFFECT SNOW WILL BE ONGOING WEDNESDAY...THOUGH LIKELYWEAKENING IN INTENSITY THROUGH THE DAY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Re: the blizzard question, I wonder if that would be reserved for synoptic systems b/c of the comparative localized nature of lake effect. I don't recall any blizzard flags for lake effect events. Seems NWS just uses the standard lake effect warnings/advisories for lake effect events, regardless of wind/temp conditions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Re: the blizzard question, I wonder if that would be reserved for synoptic systems b/c of the comparative localized nature of lake effect. I don't recall any blizzard flags for lake effect events. Seems NWS just uses the standard lake effect warnings/advisories for lake effect events, regardless of wind/temp conditions. January 19-23, 1985, "The Blizzard of '85", legendary lake effect blizzard that crippled the Buffalo area, which still had '77 fresh in their memory, wind chills at times approached -60F, winds gusted to 50mph or more, and drifts reached 8 feet, it was one of the greatest Buffalo storms ever. Can we see another one of these? After the Blizzard of 1977, this is known as Buffalos 2nd most severe storm. Credit goes to WNYLakeEffect who put together one of the best databases of local LES events ever. He must have spent hours on this thing...Here is the post, bookmark this for future references I am sure you guys will enjoy it. http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?showtopic=15060 http://easternlakeerieweatherhistory.wikia.com/wiki/WNY_and_NWPA_Weather_History_Wiki Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNYLakeEffect Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 January 19-23, 1985, "The Blizzard of '85", legendary lake effect blizzard that crippled the Buffalo area, which still had '77 fresh in their memory, wind chills at times approached -60F, winds gusted to 50mph or more, and drifts reached 8 feet, it was one of the greatest Buffalo storms ever. Can we see another one of these? After the Blizzard of 1977, this is known as Buffalos 2nd most severe storm. Credit goes to WNYLakeEffect who put together one of the best databases of local LES events ever. He must have spent hours on this thing...Here is the post, bookmark this for future references I am sure you guys will enjoy it. http://forums.accuweather.com/index.php?showtopic=15060 http://easternlakeerieweatherhistory.wikia.com/wiki/WNY_and_NWPA_Weather_History_Wiki Didn't know those were still around. I've still got all of the data (probably in excess of a million lines worth), but don't have the time to do it anymore. Sometime in the coming years I'd like to put together a program to sift through the data and map it all, day by day. Unfortunately I'm only proficient in Python at this time (though I'm going to pick up C++ soon), which I don't think will cut it, or at least do it most efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Didn't know those were still around. I've still got all of the data, but don't have the time to do it anymore. Sometime in the coming years I'd like to put together a program to sift through the data and map it all, day by day. Unfortunately I'm only proficient in Python at this time (though I'm going to pick up C++ soon), which I don't think will cut it, or at least do it most efficiently. Wow...Its you! haha! That would be an amazing project if you truly completed it. The 2nd website you began on seems like it would be proficient enough to use? Some type of database program like SQL seems like it would be the most efficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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