BuffaloWeather Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yeah, actually the band south of Buffalo has also intensified in the past few radar frames as well. Yeah doesn't look like it really gets going until this evening. Latest forecast have upped accumulation totals with this event as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 For the E. of Ontario LES snow...there will be some totals over the next 2 days that exceed 4 feet....classic steady state, center-axis oriented band with beautiful profiles! S. Jefferson county and extreme western Lewis county appear to be crosshairs through Thurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 For the E. of Ontario LES snow...there will be some totals over the next 2 days that exceed 4 feet....classic steady state, center-axis oriented band with beautiful profiles! S. Jefferson county and extreme western Lewis county appear to be crosshairs through Thurs. Definitely. Even when the cap height lowers some and the flow may be a bit fast there will still be a significant upslope component. One especially intense period may be Wednesday night. The 12z NAM has the moist unstable layer up to around 650 mb with little shear and winds around 30 kts. The low-level flow also may support a brief Lake Huron/Georgian Bay connection at that time before the band shifts south . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Definitely. Even when the cap height lowers some and the flow may be a bit fast there will still be a significant upslope component. One especially intense period may be Wednesday night. The 12z NAM has the moist unstable layer up to around 650 mb with little shear and winds around 30 kts. The low-level flow also may support a brief Lake Huron/Georgian Bay connection at that time before the band shifts south . I can almost guarantee you that a steady state band with an extremely well organized vertical circulation structure will (in a very localized, microscale fashion) stoutly combat any cap lowerings. The OWels project is going to get a text-book example to study....and I bet we find some fascinating goings on!....on all scales, throughout the band's structure!!! Can't wait! BTW, the meso's are pinging the areas slightly west of the best orographic lifting for max total qpf, which is a bit odd (ie southern Jeff. county as opposed to the Tug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yeah doesn't look like it really gets going until this evening. Latest forecast have upped accumulation totals with this event as well. It looks like the best profiles thermodynamically will be around 22-00z tonight for the Buffalo area. The band will probably set up near Buffalo at that time as the 850 mb shortwave trough moves into the area. The profile is nearly saturated and nearly moist adiabatic up to around 650 mb, however there will be some speed shear with the wind increasing from 25 kts at 950 mb to 45 kts at 700 mb. This will probably limit snowfall rates some, we'll have to see. After 00z it looks like the band will drop south and weaken as the trough axis begins to move east of the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I can almost guarantee you that a steady state band with an extremely well organized vertical circulation structure will (in a very localized, microscale fashion) stoutly combat any cap lowerings. The OWels project is going to get a text-book example to study....and I bet we find some fascinating goings on!....on all scales, throughout the band's structure!!! Can't wait! Yeah that is a good point. I can't wait to see the radar RHI cross-sections they sample! I did my honors thesis studying the ones that were collected with the previous mini-grant in 2010-2011. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Yeah that is a good point. I can't wait to see the radar RHI cross-sections they sample! I did my honors thesis studying the ones that were collected with the previous mini-grant in 2010-2011. Do you know of any realtime data that would be available via the web? ie pod, drone, radar??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ENYsnow Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Do you know of any realtime data that would be available via the web? ie pod, drone, radar??? One of my colleagues here at SUNY Albany has made a link to some MRR data from Sandy Creek and North Redfield. http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/tletcher/ I'll root around to see if any of the participants are making data readily available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Do you know of any realtime data that would be available via the web? ie pod, drone, radar??? I don't believe the DOW, pod or mesonet data will be available in real time; I don't think they're set up to do live internet feeds. I can email some folks over there and see, maybe when things quiet down a bit. One of my colleagues here at SUNY Albany has made a link to some MRR data from Sandy Creek and North Redfield. http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/tletcher/ I'll root around to see if any of the participants are making data readily available. Thanks, great link! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 One of my colleagues here at SUNY Albany has made a link to some MRR data from Sandy Creek and North Redfield. http://www.atmos.albany.edu/student/tletcher/ I'll root around to see if any of the participants are making data readily available. Very nice....thank you. And tell Landin to get out more! If he's anything like he was 25 years ago, he was a fixture in the maproom, other than umping some softball games. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steffen Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Been snowing here in Ithaca since the morning, mostly light, but occasionally moderate. Already got about 2" - much more than expected. The current snow appears to be lake effect from Erie? I never even thought about this possibility. How common is this for an Erie band to get that far east? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Been snowing here in Ithaca since the morning, mostly light, but occasionally moderate. Already got about 2" - much more than expected. The current snow appears to be lake effect from Erie? I never even thought about this possibility. How common is this for an Erie band to get that far east? Not too uncommon. With sufficient ambient (synoptic) moisture, decent downwind lift, and brisk winds at all the lower levels, one can get some nice squally type LES from Erie. BTW, with the long axis fetch off Ontario coming up, we should be able to gather tremendous data to help fine tune this vertical depiction: Note the date....this was the vertical structure over my house in Parish!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Always good to hear the word "prolific" when reading about an upcoming snow event! Really nice write up...particularly for the E. Lake Ontario portion of the discussion. With that said....HEADS UF METRO BUF THIS EVENING!!! ...INTENSE LAKE EFFECT SNOW LIKELY EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO WITH LESSER BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS EAST OF LAKE ERIE... RADAR IMAGERY EARLY THIS AFTERNOON SHOWING A DECENT BAND OF LAKE EFFECT SNOW SHOWERS EAST OF LAKE ERIE FROM THE NORTHERN PORTION OF CHAUTAUQUA AND CATTARAUGUS COUNTIES INTO SOUTHERN ERIE AND WYOMING COUNTIES. EAST OF LAKE ONTARIO THE LAKE SNOW HAS WEAKENED CONSIDERABLY WITH DRY AIR AND SOME INCREASE IN SHEAR. JUST LIGHT SNOW IS FOUND FROM OSWEGO COUNTY EAST ACROSS THE TUG HILL. THROUGH THE NEXT FEW HOURS...THE LAKE ONTARIO ACTIVITY SHOULD REMAIN WEAK AND DRIFT SLOWLY NORTH ACROSS THE TUG HILL REGION WITH MAINLY LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS. OFF LAKE ERIE THE LAKE SNOW SHOULD ACCELERATE NORTHWARD TOWARDS BUFFALO AND BATAVIA OVER THE NEXT FEW HOURS AND REACH THESE LOCATIONS BY AROUND 4PM. THE MAIN CONCERN TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY WILL BE ONGOING LAKE EFFECT SNOW. OUTSIDE OF LAKE EFFECT AREAS...JUST A FEW LIGHT SNOW SHOWERS ARE POSSIBLE WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON WITH A WEAK MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE AND AREA OF DEEPER MOISTURE. OFF LAKE ERIE... EXPECT A RAPIDLY INTENSIFYING BAND DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON AND EARLY EVENING TO BE FROM THE BUFFALO METRO AREA TO BATAVIA...WITH THE EASTERN END POTENTIALLY GIVING SOME LIGHT SNOW AS FAR EAST AS ROCHESTER. THIS BAND WILL BE ENHANCED BY INCREASING CONVERGENCE ALONG A SECONDARY COLD FRONT OR LOW LEVEL TROUGH...IN ADDITION TO SOME ADDED LARGE SCALE ASCENT FROM A MID LEVEL SHORTWAVE. THIS BAND COULD DROP A QUICK 3-6 INCHES FROM THE BUFFALO AREA TO PORTIONS OF GENESEE COUNTY...WITH THE GREATEST AMOUNTS LIKELY FROM THE BUFFALO SOUTHTOWNS AND POSSIBLY SOME OF THE EASTERN SUBURBS TO THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF GENESEE COUNTY. BY MID EVENING BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL BECOME WELL ALIGNED FROM A MORE WESTERLY OR WEST-SOUTHWEST DIRECTION. THIS WILL DIRECT THE LAKE EFFECT INTO NORTHERN CHAUTAUQUA AND NORTHERN CATTARAUGUS COUNTIES AS WELL AS SOUTHERN ERIE AND SOUTHWEST WYOMING COUNTIES. LAKE INDUCED INSTABILITY DIMINISHES OVERNIGHT WITH EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS FALLING TO BELOW 8K FEET...LIKELY DUE TO DRY AIR ALOFT. THIS MAY LIMIT ACCUMULATION POTENTIAL TONIGHT AND KEEP AMOUNTS IN THE 3-6 INCH RANGE. ON WEDNESDAY BOUNDARY LAYER FLOW WILL BACK SLIGHTLY TO MORE 260 OR EVEN 250 DEGREES. THIS WILL ALLOW LAKE SNOW TO CONSOLIDATE BACK INTO A SINGLE BAND ACROSS SOUTHERN ERIE AND WYOMING COUNTIES...POSSIBLY CLIPPING THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY AS WELL. ELSEWHERE ACROSS CHAUTAUQUA AND CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...EXPECT A BREAK IN HEAVY SNOW DURING MUCH OF THE DAY. THE ORGANIZATION BACK INTO A SINGLE BAND...AND EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS RISING BACK ABOVE 10K FEET SHOULD PRODUCE HEAVIER SNOWFALL RATES AGAIN WITH A SOLID 5-8 INCHES ADDITIONAL IN THE BAND CENTERED ON SOUTHERN ERIE OR CENTRAL ERIE COUNTY. IT WILL BE AN EXTREMELY DIFFICULT CALL WHETHER THE BAND WILL MAKE IT BACK NORTH INTO PORTIONS OF THE BUFFALO METRO AREA OR NOT. LATEST MESOSCALE MODEL GUIDANCE BRINGS THE BAND INTO SOME OF THE SOUTHTOWNS...BUT OCCASIONALLY WITH STRONG SINGLE BANDS THESE MESOSCALE MODELS HAVE A SLIGHT SOUTHWARD BIAS. FOR NOW WE HAVE BROUGHT SEVERAL INCHES BACK INTO THE BUF SOUTHTOWNS AND FAR SOUTHERN GENESEE COUNTY. IF THIS APPEARS MORE LIKELY...LATER SHIFTS MAY NEED TO ADD HEADLINES FOR NORTHERN ERIE AND GENESEE COUNTIES. OFF LAKE ONTARIO... THE BAND MAY STAY A LITTLE DISORGANIZED THROUGH MID EVENING WITH SOME SHEAR THROUGH THE BOUNDARY LAYER. LATE EVENING THROUGH WEDNESDAY THE FLOW ALIGNS FROM 260-270 DEGREES WITH SOME SUBTLE VARIATIONS DUE TO SUBTLE MID LEVEL SHORTWAVES AND LOW LEVEL WIND ADJUSTMENTS. THIS MAY CAUSE THE BAND TO OSCILLATE SOME...BUT BY IN LARGE IT SHOULD SPEND MOST OF THE TIME SQUARELY OVER THE TUG HILL PLATEAU. LAKE INDUCED EQUILIBRIUM LEVELS OF 10-14K FEET...ADEQUATE MOISTURE...A LONG WESTERLY FETCH...AND ADDED UPSLOPE FROM THE TUG HILL PLATEAU MAY MAKE THIS A PROLIFIC EVENT. WEST-SOUTHWEST FLOW EVENTS SUCH AS THIS DO NOT HAVE AN UPSTREAM CONNECTION...BUT THE DOMINANT BAND CAN OFTEN BE TRACED TO THE CONCAVE UPSTREAM SHORE NEAR HAMILTON HARBOR AT THE FAR WESTERN END OF THE LAKE. THIS CONCAVE BAY...AND ITS INFLUENCE ON LOCAL LOW LEVEL WINDS PROVIDES A BOOST TO LOW LEVEL CONVERGENCE AND IS OFTEN THE SOURCE REGION OF THE CLOUD BAND THAT GROWS INTO HEAVY LAKE EFFECT SNOW AT THE OTHER END OF THE LAKE. LATER TONIGHT THROUGH WEDNESDAY EXPECT SNOWFALL RATES TO INCREASE TO AT LEAST 2-4 INCHES PER HOUR AT TIMES...WITH LOCAL/BRIEF HIGHER RATES POSSIBLE. OUR LOCAL THUNDERSNOW NOMOGRAM FROM LOCAL RESEARCH BY RSH SUGGESTS AT LEAST SOME POTENTIAL FOR THUNDERSNOW AS WELL WITHIN THE MOST INTENSE PORTION OF THE BAND. IF THE BAND IS ABLE TO REMAIN SOMEWHAT STATIONARY OVER A SIMILAR AREA TONIGHT AND WEDNESDAY...WE MAY SEE 1-2 FEET EACH 12 HOUR PERIOD ON THE TUG HILL...WITH SOMEWHAT LESSER BUT STILL SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS CLOSER TO THE LAKE AND ALSO EAST OF THE TUG HILL. THERE WILL BE A DOWNSLOPE SHADOW IN THE BLACK RIVER VALLEY WITH SOMEWHAT LOWER AMOUNTS THERE...BUT AMOUNTS WILL LIKELY INCREASE AGAIN INTO THE WESTERN FOOTHILLS OF THE ADIRONDACKS WITH ANOTHER UPSLOPE BOOST. TRAVEL WILL BE EXTREMELY DIFFICULT...IF NOT NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE AT TIMES WITHIN THE MOST INTENSE PORTION OF THIS BAND. THIS INCLUDES INTERSTATE 81 FROM PARISH TO ADAMS.-- End Changed Discussion -- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 In and out of moderate snow here for the last hour. About an inch down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OSUmetstud Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 band off of Erie is a bit bootleg..too much shear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 band off of Erie is a bit bootleg..too much shear. really came down good for a while around 5-6,we have about 3 inches here by the peace bridge.Not bad at all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 band off of Erie is a bit bootleg..too much shear. What are your thoughts on LES potential for thurs/fri period? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi everyone! I don't really post on amwx any more, but I wanted to come into this thread for the big lake-effect event since I'll be up chasing it. Right now I'm at my parents' house near Syracuse and will be heading up tomorrow morning to try to get some video of the lake-effect clouds at sunrise (if I'm lucky and there's little to no clouds obscuring the main band). If anyone else is chasing and wants to meet up, let me know... I'll be chasing Wed-Fri but driving back to Syracuse at night. Also, since this is my first time chasing lake-effect up in that area, if anyone knows of good places to view the clouds from the south, please let me know! I was also talking with Jeff Frame from UIUC earlier today on Twitter about maybe taking some video and such with the OWLeS crew, possibly for some publicity in the form of a Capital Weather Gang post. Jeff won't be joining them until Saturday, so if anyone knows of any contacts who will be on site Wed-Fri that could coordinate with Jeff and I, that would help me out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LakeEffectKing Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi everyone! I don't really post on amwx any more, but I wanted to come into this thread for the big lake-effect event since I'll be up chasing it. Right now I'm at my parents' house near Syracuse and will be heading up tomorrow morning to try to get some video of the lake-effect clouds at sunrise (if I'm lucky and there's little to no clouds obscuring the main band). If anyone else is chasing and wants to meet up, let me know... I'll be chasing Wed-Fri but driving back to Syracuse at night. Also, since this is my first time chasing lake-effect up in that area, if anyone knows of good places to view the clouds from the south, please let me know! I was also talking with Jeff Frame from UIUC earlier today on Twitter about maybe taking some video and such with the OWLeS crew, possibly for some publicity in the form of a Capital Weather Gang post. Jeff won't be joining them until Saturday, so if anyone knows of any contacts who will be on site Wed-Fri that could coordinate with Jeff and I, that would help me out. Hey Mark, I'm in Liverpool...NW suburb of SYR. I'd LOVE to chase...but work at SU is pretty busy just before Christmas break....I think I'm a no-go. If you can get to Oswego to (maybe Oswego State) you can get next to the shoreline and get some great shots viewing to the north. Otherwise, there are many "spots" along I-81 where you get some elevation (just south of Parish) and can get a decent, wide view of a band. With the band presumably being along the Oswego/Jeff. border, you might get some really good shots up near Port Ontario (near Pulaski), as long as there isn't a cirrus shield overtop. If you are able to get to the heart of the band (which may be doubtful, if rates start exceeding 5"+/hr.) you will be in for quite a treat, whether you have or haven't experienced such rates. Probably stating the obvious, but overpack for clothing, food, emergency supplies, cat litter. Enjoy, and be safe. George Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi everyone! I don't really post on amwx any more, but I wanted to come into this thread for the big lake-effect event since I'll be up chasing it. Right now I'm at my parents' house near Syracuse and will be heading up tomorrow morning to try to get some video of the lake-effect clouds at sunrise (if I'm lucky and there's little to no clouds obscuring the main band). If anyone else is chasing and wants to meet up, let me know... I'll be chasing Wed-Fri but driving back to Syracuse at night. Also, since this is my first time chasing lake-effect up in that area, if anyone knows of good places to view the clouds from the south, please let me know! I was also talking with Jeff Frame from UIUC earlier today on Twitter about maybe taking some video and such with the OWLeS crew, possibly for some publicity in the form of a Capital Weather Gang post. Jeff won't be joining them until Saturday, so if anyone knows of any contacts who will be on site Wed-Fri that could coordinate with Jeff and I, that would help me out. There are several good places to view lake-effect clouds looking northward along Lake Ontario. West Barrier Bar County park just north of Fair Haven, NY is a good spot right on the lake. There's a chance one of the DOWs may even be sampling there (when I was involved in the predecessor to the current grant a few years ago, DOW 7 spent the majority of its time sampling there). Sodus Point Beach park is another spot right on the lake, though it is a bit farther west; halfway between Oswego and Rochester. There are also some good locations on the SUNY Oswego campus especially on the western edge on Rudolph Rd./89. The DOW spent a decent amount of time there as well. Another location farther north and east is Selkirk Shores State Park. I know of at least one professor I could put you in contact with, though they might be pretty busy these next couple of days. There are several students I know who are involved in the project as well if you're interested in speaking to them. I'm not involved in any way with the project so I don't really know too much about logistics but I'm sure there would be some interest in letting you take some video of their operations. Send me a PM if you want any more details or contacts. Good luck with the chase! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heavy_wx Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 The band off of Lake Ontario is really getting its act together now. Northern Oswego County is probably seeing some very high snowfall rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Thank you both for the tips! I think I'll go the SUNY Oswego route for tomorrow morning... going to try to get a sweet time lapse I was trying to see if Brennan Beach would be open... used to camp there almost every summer as a kid with my family. LEK, thanks for the safety concern... I am well prepared. I grew up in the SYR area (Marcellus) and drove back and forth from SUNY Albany for college, so I'm quite familiar with heavy rates and mobility within these big lake-effect bands, though this is my first time actually chasing and getting footage of it. I hope to get into those 4-5"/hr rates at some point... if not tomorrow, then when the band reforms later this week. Even though you're busy, if you have free time and want me to drop down and get you for an afternoon chase or something, that would be fine. heavy_wx, if you can send me stuff like Twitter accounts, that'd be great. If for some reason I can't get anything worked out through Jeff, I might ask for more info from you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 What are your thoughts on LES potential for thurs/fri period? Nice pictures, but please rotate them next time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Crazy how lake effect works. Buffalo airport gets 1.1 inches and locations in Genesee county get 6-7 inches even though the band had to go through the airport to hit that county...The Rochester airport got 1.5 inches more than the Buffalo airport from a Lake Erie snowband. Lake effect is simply unpredictable! ***********************6 HOUR SNOWFALL***********************LOCATION 6 HOUR TIME/DATE COMMENTSSNOWFALL OF/INCHES/ MEASUREMENTNEW YORK...ERIE COUNTY...AKRON 4.0 914 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIAGRAND ISLAND 2.1 800 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIAWILLIAMSVILLE 1.7 700 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEENORTH BUFFALO 1.4 756 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEEEAST AURORA 1.2 855 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEENY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 1.1 700 PM 12/10 ASOS2 N BUFFALO 0.8 953 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA...GENESEE COUNTY...STAFFORD 6.7 800 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEEPAVILION 6.0 900 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA5 S BATAVIA 4.0 830 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA...MONROE COUNTY...CHURCHVILLE 6.0 850 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIACHILI CENTER 6.0 918 PM 12/10 PUBLICSPENCERPORT 5.5 842 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIAROCHESTER INTL ARPT 2.6 700 PM 12/10 ASOS4 SE PENFIELD 2.0 924 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA...NIAGARA COUNTY...NORTH TONAWANDA 2.2 741 PM 12/10 CO-OP OBSERVERMIDDLEPORT 1.0 943 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA**********************12 HOUR SNOWFALL**********************LOCATION 12 HOUR TIME/DATE COMMENTSSNOWFALL OF/INCHES/ MEASUREMENTNEW YORK...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...PERRYSBURG 14.5 930 PM 12/10 CO-OP OBSERVER...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...CASSADAGA 12.0 846 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA...ERIE COUNTY...EAST AURORA 2.5 855 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leelee Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Maybe .5 inch in S Buffalo, it came down pretty hard for 15 minutes but the band just flew through here. Oh well, maybe Thu night will be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Crazy how lake effect works. Buffalo airport gets 1.1 inches and locations in Genesee county get 6-7 inches even though the band had to go through the airport to hit that county...The Rochester airport got 1.5 inches more than the Buffalo airport from a Lake Erie snowband. Lake effect is simply unpredictable! ***********************6 HOUR SNOWFALL*********************** LOCATION 6 HOUR TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT NEW YORK ...ERIE COUNTY... AKRON 4.0 914 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA GRAND ISLAND 2.1 800 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA WILLIAMSVILLE 1.7 700 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE NORTH BUFFALO 1.4 756 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE EAST AURORA 1.2 855 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE NY BUFFALO INTL ARPT 1.1 700 PM 12/10 ASOS 2 N BUFFALO 0.8 953 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA ...GENESEE COUNTY... STAFFORD 6.7 800 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE PAVILION 6.0 900 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA 5 S BATAVIA 4.0 830 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA ...MONROE COUNTY... CHURCHVILLE 6.0 850 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA CHILI CENTER 6.0 918 PM 12/10 PUBLIC SPENCERPORT 5.5 842 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA ROCHESTER INTL ARPT 2.6 700 PM 12/10 ASOS 4 SE PENFIELD 2.0 924 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA ...NIAGARA COUNTY... NORTH TONAWANDA 2.2 741 PM 12/10 CO-OP OBSERVER MIDDLEPORT 1.0 943 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA **********************12 HOUR SNOWFALL********************** LOCATION 12 HOUR TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF /INCHES/ MEASUREMENT NEW YORK ...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY... PERRYSBURG 14.5 930 PM 12/10 CO-OP OBSERVER ...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY... CASSADAGA 12.0 846 PM 12/10 SOCIAL MEDIA ...ERIE COUNTY... EAST AURORA 2.5 855 PM 12/10 NWS EMPLOYEE Lake erie is trolling BUF lol Maybe .5 inch in S Buffalo, it came down pretty hard for 15 minutes but the band just flew through here. Oh well, maybe Thu night will be better. Potential is still there per 0z nam.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Buffalo Bumble Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Hi everyone! I don't really post on amwx any more, but I wanted to come into this thread for the big lake-effect event since I'll be up chasing it. Right now I'm at my parents' house near Syracuse and will be heading up tomorrow morning to try to get some video of the lake-effect clouds at sunrise (if I'm lucky and there's little to no clouds obscuring the main band). If anyone else is chasing and wants to meet up, let me know... I'll be chasing Wed-Fri but driving back to Syracuse at night. Also, since this is my first time chasing lake-effect up in that area, if anyone knows of good places to view the clouds from the south, please let me know! I was also talking with Jeff Frame from UIUC earlier today on Twitter about maybe taking some video and such with the OWLeS crew, possibly for some publicity in the form of a Capital Weather Gang post. Jeff won't be joining them until Saturday, so if anyone knows of any contacts who will be on site Wed-Fri that could coordinate with Jeff and I, that would help me out. Good luck chasing tomorrow - looks like a great event to be a part of. Another good viewing area in Oswego is the parking area adjacent to Fort Ontario. It's an elevated spot with a nice unobstructed view of the lake: https://www.google.com/maps/preview#!data=!1m4!1m3!1d19365!2d-76.5072098!3d43.4680269!4m12!2m11!1m10!1s0x0%3A0x602d126c8ecf970d!3m8!1m3!1d3000292!2d-75.7700405!3d42.746632!3m2!1i1024!2i768!4f13.1 The live doppler on the channel 9 website is a great radar for tracking the L Ontario bands: http://www.9wsyr.com/content/weather/livedoppler9_static.aspx. Looks like central Oswego County is getting hammered right now. Look forward to seeing some pictures. Be safe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ayuud11 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 How far north do you guys think will that band make it up to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Revracer800 Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 2 ft so far in Redfield and High market up on the Tug... that was reported on 9wsyr. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BuffaloWeather Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Some impressive totals so far: NEW YORK...CATTARAUGUS COUNTY...PERRYSBURG 18.0 615 AM 12/11 CO-OP OBSERVERWEST VALLEY 10.0 652 AM 12/11 COCORAHS...CHAUTAUQUA COUNTY...CASSADAGA 6.5 600 AM 12/11 BROADCAST MEDIADUNKIRK 4.0 600 AM 12/11 BROADCAST MEDIA4 SSW RIPLEY 2.9 605 AM 12/11 COCORAHS...ERIE COUNTY...1 NE BOSTON 8.0 630 AM 12/11 COCORAHSESE KENMORE 1.4 535 AM 12/11 COCORAHSBUFFALO 1.1 654 AM 12/11 NWS OFFICE...LEWIS COUNTY...1 NW CONSTABLEVILLE 25.0 500 AM 12/11 COCORAHSCONSTABLEVILLE 15.0 304 AM 12/11 CO-OP OBSERVER...OSWEGO COUNTY...9 E LACONA 28.0 600 AM 12/11 COCORAHSPULASKI 14.0 1145 PM 12/10 TRAINED SPOTTER...WYOMING COUNTY...WARSAW 12.0 625 AM 12/11 TRAINED SPOTTER Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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