September weather discussion

[dendrite]

Face it I really don't care what anyone says but the pattern that has developed over the last 3 weeks looks to continue for awhile and that has to be concerning

It wouldn't be late September without Toronto Maple Weenie being worried about winter because of the current pattern.

[CT Rain]

Face it I really don't care what anyone says but the pattern that has developed over the last 3 weeks looks to continue for awhile and that has to be concerning

 

Seriously?

It's going to be a long fall. 

[CT Rain]

It wouldn't be late September without Toronto Maple Weenie being worried about winter because of the current pattern.

 

Toronto is a cool city but just an awful city for exciting weather. 

[toronto blizzard]

Toronto is a cool city but just an awful city for exciting weather.

+1

[Damage In Tolland]

I'm sad to admit that I've found 3 this year and all of them had 4 black segments in the front, 5 brown in the middle, and 3 black on the behind. I know the legend is the less brown, the harsher the winter, but I don't know how the segments break down. I'm not surprised that yours are mostly black though.

Another south of Pike winter?

[toronto blizzard]

Just saying what I think guys. I know there's examples of AK vortexes that set up in the fall and then get replaced by AK ridging during the winter but I just get an awful feeling that it won't go away. Besides even the euro weeklies show the vortex through the end of october

[CoastalWx]

Give maple weenie a break, they were only minutes away from eliminating the Bruins before the epic choke.

[CoastalWx]

Just saying what I think guys. I know there's examples of AK vortexes that set up in the fall and then get replaced by AK ridging during the winter but I just get an awful feeling that it won't go away. Besides even the euro weeklies show the vortex through the end of october

 

The PV goes over to Siberia, but the GOA has ridging if you believe the weeklies.

[toronto blizzard]

Give maple weenie a break, they were only minutes away from eliminating the Bruins before the epic choke.

Please don't remind me of that. Can't believe that happened

[dendrite]

Another south of Pike winter?

I think we're both due for climo karma.

[dendrite]

Give maple weenie a break, they were only minutes away from eliminating the Bruins before the epic choke.

At least the Blue Jays won the AL East on paper this year.

[CT Rain]

I think we're both due for climo karma.

 

I'm hoping BDL can crack 35" this year. 

[toronto blizzard]

At least the Blue Jays won the AL East on paper this year.

This. The team was an absolute joke but more than half of their regulars were injured so you have to take that into consideration. Don't worry we'll be back in 2014 to make noise for real

[moneypitmike]

Started foogy here but sunny now.  Downtown Greenfield is still pea soup.

 

Are you seeing epic numbers of wooly caterpillars this year? 

 

They are everywhere down here.  Means a big, big winter incoming right Jerry?

 

 

Yeah my yard is loaded with them, they are everywhere. I see then all over the roads too running in the morning . they are mostly black this year

 

Just a few.  We did have one of our apples get infested with some type of catepillar last week.  Overnight they did pretty serious devastation.  We quickly pruned hopefluly, sparing any permanent damage.  Interestingly, none of the othese had any.  This particular one is partly under a maple canopy--lavae dropping from maples ftl???

 

Another south of Pike winter?

 

:weenie:

[Baroclinic Zone]

Beautiful AM on Assawompsett Pond.

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[HoarfrostHubb]

Tons of wooly bears here. And white ones that secrete a nasty liquid. Don't touch them

I read once that wooly bear colors are more based on the previous winter than the upcoming one

[Damage In Tolland]

All ours look like the last one

 

[powderfreak]

 

All ours look like the last one

 

 

 

 

Wouldn't expect anything else.  Awesome winter incoming for you.

[powderfreak]

Tons of wooly bears here. And white ones that secrete a nasty liquid. Don't touch them

I read once that wooly bear colors are more based on the previous winter than the upcoming one

 

That would make a heck of a lot more sense.

[OceanStWx]

Wouldn't expect anything else.  Awesome winter incoming for you.

 

I'm shocked there are any brown segments at all...

[OceanStWx]

That would make a heck of a lot more sense.

 

Right, because they point towards age of the caterpillar (i.e. when they were hatched in the spring).

[powderfreak]

Right, because they point towards age of the caterpillar (i.e. when they were hatched in the spring).

 

There's this assumption by a lot of people (not on this board, just people in general) that nature knows everything before it happens...and we have these romantic ideas of animals leaving prior to storms or forest fires or signs of a harsh winter incoming or leaves that change because winter is coming.  Most of it is reactive though to something else that has already happened.  That's how evolution works...it adapts, it doesn't predict outcomes.

[dendrite]

Received a pic from someone south of the Pike today...

[powderfreak]

Foliage is coming along up here in north/central VT...

 

[moneypitmike]

Foliage is coming along up here in north/central VT...

 

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Nice Scott. 

 

What's the deal with the helicoptor maple tree seeds?  I've got a couple maples dropping their leaves early leaving a TON of these sitting on the branches.  Am I completely forgetingg something about fall?  It's not on all trees, but a few.

[Ginx snewx]

At least the Blue Jays won the AL East on paper this year.

congrats on the Stanley Cup

[weathafella]

Solid signal for above normal temperatures in most of the east for the first half of October. On all the ensembles. If we go with the NAO reversing from the October state we're in like Flynn this winter.

[dendrite]

congrats on the Stanley Cup

Good luck to the Yanks this postseason.

 

Beautiful day again today with highs in the U60s following L40s mins. It's boring, but great for outdoor activities.

[Ginx snewx]

There's this assumption by a lot of people (not on this board, just people in general) that nature knows everything before it happens...and we have these romantic ideas of animals leaving prior to storms or forest fires or signs of a harsh winter incoming or leaves that change because winter is coming. Most of it is reactive though to something else that has already happened. That's how evolution works...it adapts, it doesn't predict outcomes.

tell the Japanese that, using animals to predict earthquakes, known fact seagulls head inland ahead of super deep storms, no wild animals died in the Tsunamis. FROM Science How stuff works

It's highly unlikely animals can predict weather in an ESP-sort of way, but they very well may be able to sense environmental signals that humans miss. Reaction is another key component: A human might sense a drop in barometric pressure, for example, but not feel compelled by that sensation to seek shelter before a storm hits, as an animal might.

Another potential reason animals might react to impending weather events and natural disasters differently than humans is because at least some of their five senses almost always surpass our own. Many weather occurrences generate noises in the infrasonic range, too low for people to usually hear, for example, but well within the hearing range of many animal species.

There are many ways the conditions of an environment may alter to give animals a heads-up that something rough is on the way. Apart from barometric pressure and sound waves, there can also be changes in hydrostatic, or water, pressure.

[Ginx snewx]

Good luck to the Yanks this postseason.

Beautiful day again today with highs in the U60s following L40s mins. It's boring, but great for outdoor activities.

I am Bruins fan, Congrats Celts on the Eastern Conference.... cellar. Lol Celts fan too. Meh on the Yanks 2 times in 18 years. Good luck against Detroit