CT Rain Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's also a handy go to excuse for disasters, rather than admit it was poor infrastructure or coastal development. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 OT but I'm convinced that we're taking this far too lightly. The cycle of temperatures in the last 50 years globally is alarming to me. Gorgeous and pleasantly warm day today. slowed considerable. One thing that sticks in my mind is climate modeling, ie the 10000 day GFS runs, how accurate can they really be, too many variables they can not take into account like the ocean absorbing all the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 slowed considerable. One thing that sticks in my mind is climate modeling, ie the 10000 date GFS runs, how accurate can they really be, too many variables they can not take into account like the ocean absorbing all the heat. Ups and down in small year bunches but up trend. Is current cooling a blip or a new trend. No one knows. I'm really worried about what will happen when the sun roars back to life at some point who knows when... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 March '93 had epic cold right behind it...though the longevity was compromised by the fact that it was mid-March already. But that was impressive behind that bomb. '78 didn't have big cold behind it, but it didn't torch either. It stayed seasonable...wasn't warm enough to melt a lot of the snowpack. There was snow in a town snow dump into June in Foxboro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Ups and down in small year bunches but up trend. Is current cooling a blip or a new trend. No one knows. I'm really worried about what will happen when the sun roars back to life at some point who knows when... http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/science/space/the-sun-that-did-not-roar.html?_r=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 http://www.nytimes.com/2013/09/24/science/space/the-sun-that-did-not-roar.html?_r=0 Yes you make my point. Eventually it will indeed roar as this minimum period which indeed may rival some of those in the past ends. Who knows when. But I'd like to see a much colder earth during this long term minimum and that's not what appears to be occurring. That to me is worrisome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I think I got what you meant, Scott -- I am just saying that the panel's findings are alarming overall, and the implications of it are pretty terrifying for those that have a modicum of cause-and-effect awareness in the matter. So in a way, we may be at a threshold between where consequence and sensationalism have a very finite differential. Code for ...if it gets bad enough, what the f is the difference ? But yes ... Sandy did not happen because human kind fired up cool burning stoves. No. Any media source purporting that sort of message is completely ...well. As far as coastal impacts and that stuff. You build a house on a flood plain and then it floods - okay. Well, you don't build 50 to 100 years of pleasure seeking edifices that set normal to the coast mere feet from the ocean its self, and then get baffled by a big bomb of a storm. The 9th ward of New Orleans is below sea-level, in a delta region that the French urgently pleaded upon completing the Louisiana Purchase, "don't build a city there" -- that was on the other side of the AGW curve. Long Island is a ticking time bomb. The whole East Coast of N and S America, too. Whether a Category 3 tempest rockets N at 55 mph of forward speed, making the wind summation like the jet wash at Emission Controls, or the Canary Islands fissure and releases an Atlantic Basin wide, 900' eventual Tsunamis pulse, it's all humanity's fault for building precariously too close to danger, and has nothing to do with sea level rise from GW, or storm intensity because of GW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 let's stall this front and get the tropics involved next weekend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Yes you make my point. Eventually it will indeed roar as this minimum period which indeed may rival some of those in the past ends. Who knows when. But I'd like to see a much colder earth during this long term minimum and that's not what appears to be occurring. That to me is worrisome. we will be long gone my friend, next cycle is 25 and that max is much lower than this one and that is 2030 so the next max is 2047. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 euro back to cool times and big trough next week after the mild up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 let's stall this front and get the tropics involved next weekend It's funny you said that ... I think I know why -- if I may. You probably noticed that both the GGEM and GFS have a western Caribbean, albeit weak, system developing and then moving up toward Florida, at the same time a quasi closed low tries to eject E out of the MV next week. Hey, at least it's something.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 let's stall this front and get the tropics involved next weekend you know full well that Roger Smith is going to nail the hybrid for mid month Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's also a handy go to excuse for disasters, rather than admit it was poor infrastructure or coastal development. Exactly. But as far as coastal development goes, our wonderful FEMA just raised the floodzones in south shore towns to level where a Carol would have to make landfall into EWB from the ESE. I wish the policy makers understood what it takes to get that kind of flooding into those s shore towns. Now, unless people really fight this, 2,000 properties alone in Marshfield are going to have big time premium problems. You can thank Sandy for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 I grew up near Albany... plenty of storms were followed by lots of cold weather. I'm thinking like storms that depart and leave behind a week of LES out in western NY and the windy, flurries amid partly sunny skies. Growing up I remember watching TWC and thinking that Albany always seemed to get the jackpot snows... we would frequently change over to sleet/rain in nor'easters as the storms came too far NW for us. Seems like they haven't done as well in recent years though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 you know full well that Roger Smith is going to nail the hybrid for mid month i'm just thinking enhanced moisture. the pattern is progressive so the stall is more related to the trough sharpening at the right time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 i'm just thinking enhanced moisture. the pattern is progressive so the stall is more related to the trough sharpening at the right time Where do you find your avatars? lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Where do you find your avatars? lolfamily pics Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 we will be long gone my friend, next cycle is 25 and that max is much lower than this one and that is 2030 so the next max is 2047. Don't kill me off! I'll be 101 late in 2047. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Just saw a liscence plate from ME that said "WNTRFAN" Most excellent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Just saw a liscence plate from ME that said "WNTRFAN" Most excellent. That's because SMMRFAN has already taken the big toaster bath. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Just saw a liscence plate from ME that said "WNTRFAN" Most excellent. Some board members plates Jerry- 6061-WX Scooter- 2005-NB Phil- OZONE-1 Kev- ALLHYPE RAY- WEENIES RYAN- HODOLVR WILL- 9297913 Brian- SNFLAKE Scott cweat- DEERE-1 PF- FAUXSN-1 Eric- MTCLMBR Hippy Valley- SHADYWX Pete- MTMAN-1 Jeffaffa- SNMBILE HubbDave- HUNCHIE WIZ- SPIDERS Ginxy- SULTAN1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 That's because SMMRFAN has already taken the big toaster bath. you have the I8MIDS-1 plate yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 you have the I8MIDS-1 plate yet? It would at least give surrounding drivers a heads up that they should move out of the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tropics heating up in Gulf/Caribbean? May make next week interesting in FL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 28, 2013 Author Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tropics heating up in Gulf/Caribbean? May make next week interesting in FL... euro is meh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Tropics heating up in Gulf/Caribbean? May make next week interesting in FL... Yeah, right on schedule with the secondary Oct. peak and plenty of OHC remaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 euro is meh It does have something at least - so I think a named storm is a fairly good bet. Environment not great but looks like a really nice outflow channel sets up ahead of digging trough over Florida and eastern GOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's just a matter of time before we start to get some pretty decent widespread rainfall threats here. Judging on how things appear to be evolving, October could be a rather wet month with multiple opportunities at region wide rainfall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 It's just a matter of time before we start to get some pretty decent widespread rainfall threats here. Judging on how things appear to be evolving, October could be a rather wet month with multiple opportunities at region wide rainfall. Maybe more towards mid-October. Other than that ridging pattern we get that gives us a heat up and a few transient fropas, upper atmospheric flow looks rather stale. I hate rain in the fall though because it drops leaves prematurely and nothing is worse than wet, damp leaves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 28, 2013 Share Posted September 28, 2013 Mount Baker, WA going to crush an entire year's worth of epic New England winter snowfall in just the next 5 days...I don't know how you get 30+ inches of "snow showers" in a 12 hour period, but there ya do.... This Afternoon Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 30. Windy, with a south southwest wind around 44 mph, with gusts as high as 65 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. Total daytime snow accumulation of 25 to 31 inches possible. Tonight Snow showers. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 17. Windy, with a south wind 39 to 49 mph decreasing to 13 to 23 mph. Winds could gust as high as 75 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 24 to 30 inches possible. Sunday Snow. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 29. Windy, with a southwest wind 32 to 34 mph, with gusts as high as 45 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 18 to 24 inches possible. Sunday Night Snow showers. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 14. Windy, with a south southwest wind 16 to 26 mph increasing to 38 to 48 mph after midnight. Winds could gust as high as 70 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 29 to 35 inches possible. Monday Snow showers. The snow could be heavy at times. High near 22. South southwest wind 13 to 15 mph. Chance of precipitation is 100%. New snow accumulation of 11 to 17 inches possible. Monday Night Snow showers. The snow could be heavy at times. Low around 13. Chance of precipitation is 80%. New snow accumulation of 12 to 18 inches possible. Tuesday Snow showers likely. Cloudy, with a high near 21. Chance of precipitation is 70%. New snow accumulation of 5 to 9 inches possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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