CoastalWx Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Norwood (OWD) at 43F and Blue Hilll (MQE) at 54F. What a crazy inversion. What a difference 500' or so can make. That is an error. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 For ginxy, if he still wants to wet his toes , 0z euro and cmc would deliver over head swell (perhaps well OH) sun into monday for south coastal new england beaches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That is an error. Not sure if you're being sarcastic but that sounds accurate to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Not sure if you're being sarcastic but that sounds accurate to me. I think the point is that none of the other elevated stations report this situation this morning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 That is an error. I think the point is that none of the other elevated stations report this situation this morning? Yeah you guys are right. Just checked on bluehill.org and their Davis instrument is reporting 43F. Stupid ASOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Gusting 12-15 here..Not calm..ever It was dead calm here barring slight movement of air but my anemometer only had some 2mph wind about 0300, that was it all night. Got down to 34F here but no sign of frost in the neighborhood. Different story down here. It was 37° at my house but it's always a few degrees cooler down the hill from me and it was frosty across all three towns that I drive through in northern CT. No advisory though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Dipped down into the 30s again. 39F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 000 FXUS61 KBOX 240541 AFDBOX AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TAUNTON MA 141 AM EDT TUE SEP 24 2013 ... .NEAR TERM /UNTIL 6 AM THIS MORNING/... 130 AM UPDATE... ... CLOUD COVER HAS KEPT TEMPS UP ACROSS W ZONES WHERE FROST ADVISORIES ARE IN EFFECT. SKIES ARE CLEARING BUT TEMPS STILL IN 40S...AND WITH HIGHER DEWPOINTS TEMPS WILL NOT GET AS COLD AS PREVIOUSLY FORECAST SO EXPECT ANY FROST TO BE ISOLATED. WILL LIKELY CANCEL THE ADVISORY FOR ALL OR PART OF THE AREA WITH NEXT UPDATE. Not true in my neck of the woods. Plenty of frost along my entire drive from Stafford through Enfield...not isolated. Just about every open field/rooftop had frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 It was dead calm here barring slight movement of air but my anemometer only had some 2mph wind about 0300, that was it all night. Different story down here. It was 37° at my house but it's always a few degrees cooler down the hill from me and it was frosty across all three towns that I drive through in northern CT. No advisory though. I was shocked that no frost here at 34F. Yet you saw widespread at 37F. What are the conditions necessary for frost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yeah you guys are right. Just checked on bluehill.org and their Davis instrument is reporting 43F. Stupid ASOS. On CAA, just check ORH and usually MQE is a few degrees warmer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Yeah you guys are right. Just checked on bluehill.org and their Davis instrument is reporting 43F. Stupid ASOS. Sorry, I was on the road and didn't mean to be terse. Yeah like Will said, those CAA days will always cause MQE to be at least colder than BOS and a few warmer than ORH. When BOS was colder than MQE...red flag to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Not true in my neck of the woods. Plenty of frost along my entire drive from Stafford through Enfield...not isolated. Just about every open field/rooftop had frost. There must be something that's making them cancel frost advisories and not issuing them for other areas. Perhaps the threshold for frost advisories isn't being met. Maybe it has to be below 36 for at least six hours across at least half of the forecast zone to consider it a damaging frost that warrants an advisory. We're not out of the normal growing season yet, so that's not the reason for lack of issuance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 I was shocked that no frost here at 34F. Yet you saw widespread at 37F. What are the conditions necessary for frost? I think it was closer to 34° along my route. It's usually 2-3° colder down the hill. Frost forms at those temperatures because the surface (not where the thermometer is) reaches 32° but there are other processes that occur when the dewpoint gets below 32° but the air temp is above that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 36 in Btown this morning, 37 at UMass but still no frost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Sorry, I was on the road and didn't mean to be terse. Yeah like Will said, those CAA days will always cause MQE to be at least colder than BOS and a few warmer than ORH. When BOS was colder than MQE...red flag to me. Makes sense. I just saw the temps and automatically assumed one. On clear, calm mornings I am used to seeing that localized inversion, but I just checked the winds and OWD is 7 kts and MQE is 9 kts so that explains why there wouldn't be one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 This month will definitely be colder than I thought. Hello folks..Everyday this week looks below normal till maybe Sat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 There must be something that's making them cancel frost advisories and not issuing them for other areas. Perhaps the threshold for frost advisories isn't being met. Maybe it has to be below 36 for at least six hours across at least half of the forecast zone to consider it a damaging frost that warrants an advisory. We're not out of the normal growing season yet, so that's not the reason for lack of issuance. I don't know but I see it every year up here where an advisory will be issued for most of Mass. but not for NE CT. ALB will issue one for NW CT but you can see from this morning's map that temps were pretty much the same between the corners. Like you said, there might be different criteria between the offices and when they saw that not being met in Mass. they dropped the advisories there. We never had one. BTW, some nice inland 37's for you down there. That matches my low up here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowman21 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 BTW, some nice inland 37's for you down there. That matches my low up here. Yeah you can see the nice gradient that sets up south of the parkway. It's almost ten degrees warmer on the water where I am compared to places that are just 5-10 miles inland. Those interior backcountry areas do OK with respect to radiating and snowfall too since there is a little bit of elevation around the notch of the panhandle on both sides of the border. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 For ginxy, if he still wants to wet his toes , 0z euro and cmc would deliver over head swell (perhaps well OH) sun into monday for south coastal new england beachesarse in the water toes in the sand if it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 I am having trouble getting out of summer mode. I went for my morning ice coffee fix in shorts and a t shirt, good thing I had a sweat shirt in the truck. Out on the deck reading forum now in the sun its nice, house is 61,guess I should think about heat soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Our conditioning during practice was surprisingly rough on the lungs. Had that cold air shock feeling on my asthma, heavy breathing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Mount Washington wind chill this morning hovering around 0F. And I thought yesterday's Mansfield chill in the teens was a shock to the system, near zero would be a whole other level of September cold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Mount Washington wind chill this morning hovering around 0F. And I thought yesterday's Mansfield chill in the teens was a shock to the system, near zero would be a whole other level of September cold. The cold on washington is another climate of cold in comparison. They were 25.6 around 2pm yesterday w sustained winds of 60mph!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 925mb temps FTW today 850's near 9c 925's at 6c . In september baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 First image is last year same date, looking across the valley up to my house, second image is today. Color seems more vibrant and ahead of last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 WOW..now this is about as impressive a stat as we've seen .. I'm beginning to believe NWS New York NY @NWSNewYorkNY42m The 47 degrees in #NYC this am was the coldest September low in 13 years! Last time at or below 47 was in 2000. http://ow.ly/i/3eJlU #nywx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 WOW..now this is about as impressive a stat as we've seen .. I'm beginning to believe NWS New York NY @NWSNewYorkNY42m The 47 degrees in #NYC this am was the coldest September low in 13 years! Last time at or below 47 was in 2000. http://ow.ly/i/3eJlU #nywx Are you serious? Coldest low in 13 years on a single date isn't that impressive. If you want impressive, the BOS low on 9/17 was impressive...it broke the record low for the date and was the coldest temp that early in the season in 29 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 Are you serious? Coldest low in 13 years on a single date isn't that impressive. If you want impressive, the BOS low on 9/17 was impressive...it broke the record low for the date and was the coldest temp that early in the season in 29 years. I think it was coldest September low in 13 years, not just for that date. But I agree, nowhere near earth shattering lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted September 24, 2013 Share Posted September 24, 2013 WOW..now this is about as impressive a stat as we've seen .. I'm beginning to believe NWS New York NY @NWSNewYorkNY42m The 47 degrees in #NYC this am was the coldest September low in 13 years! Last time at or below 47 was in 2000. http://ow.ly/i/3eJlU #nywx believe what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 24, 2013 Author Share Posted September 24, 2013 believe what?its coming quickly this year, love seeing snow in the USA again, Vail this morning Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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