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September weather discussion


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Going low tonight. Will feel nice to get the first readings in the 30s of the season tonight.

AFD

" As this afternoon/S dewpoints have dropped into the 30s...confidence is high that most of the north country will see min temperatures in the 30s towards the early morning hours. Areas in and around Lake Champlain will remain in the 40s as the lake temperature was 73 degrees as of 10am this morning. Coldest areas look to be the adks...falling into the u20s-l30s and have kept the freeze warning for these areas. Other cold spots look to be the slv...north central Vermont and NEK."

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Going low tonight. Will feel nice to get the first readings in the 30s of the season tonight.

AFD

" As this afternoon/S dewpoints have dropped into the 30s...confidence is high that most of the north country will see min temperatures in the 30s towards the early morning hours. Areas in and around Lake Champlain will remain in the 40s as the lake temperature was 73 degrees as of 10am this morning. Coldest areas look to be the adks...falling into the u20s-l30s and have kept the freeze warning for these areas. Other cold spots look to be the slv...north central Vermont and NEK."

 

It certainly will feel nice.  I'm hoping I join the 30s club.  My PnC has 40° and I'm usually a couple below that so we'll see.  My dp is still around 50 but it, along with the temp, has been dropping since noon.  It should drop nicely once the death orb  settles below the horizon.

 

My bet is on SLK being the nations low tomorrow morning but we'll see.  Maybe someone else will squeeze out lower.

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Foothills forecast is upper 30s, Mts mid 30s with a frost advisory.  GYX afternoon AFD thinking early decouple, some later fog.  When radiation fog develops at my place, it's often absent at 5 AM and most dense about 1/2 hr after sunrise, and so would affect the minimum only slightly.  Could be close...

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I wouldn't sweat it, if your gig is on the cold side of the fantasy lines -- really is vastly too early to start thinking along these lines...   

 

'Sides, there is at least minimum correlation between autumn +AO and ensuing -AO winters.   And certainly/mathematically since the AO shares domain space with both the EPO and NAO, these probably have some corresponding relationship.   

I just meant that for now it wasn't good.

 

I would MUCH rather have a +NAO now than in December.

 

That's why I posted it in the SEP thread instead of the Winter thread.

 

That correlation makes sense though, but it seems the AO is mostly just neutral now.

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Hit up the shelburne falls coffee roasters on the mohawk trail instead.

 

Our DP has fallen 12 degrees since 10AM.  Visible sat shows more cloud cover right in the river valley.  I wonder if it dissipates entirely and we get the usual radiational cooling ratios, or if this one is especially latitudinally driven.  Think ORE may outdo CEF tonight more than normal.

 

I usually only go to the Roasters when I'm bringing a coffee gift to someone.  As a change of pace, sometimes I'll head into the village to Mocha Maya.  Not really a fan of the coffee, but it's nice to spend a little time in the town.  A quick escape from the hinterlands in the hills.

 

 

 

Coldest spot in the lower 48F may come out of like SLK or HIE tonight...

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My bet is on West Chesterfield.

 

62.7/40

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It certainly will feel nice.  I'm hoping I join the 30s club.  My PnC has 40° and I'm usually a couple below that so we'll see.  My dp is still around 50 but it, along with the temp, has been dropping since noon.  It should drop nicely once the death orb  settles below the horizon.

 

My bet is on SLK being the nations low tomorrow morning but we'll see.  Maybe someone else will squeeze out lower.

 

Yeah, we should be close to the 30s by morning... skies have cleared out and dews are dropping. 

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Turns out the Euro was right with that cut off locked to our west late next week.

 

Sever chances Wed/thur..then wet and humid with south flow thru day 10..if there was something tropical in there...it would have a chance to run up

 

There certainly does appear to be a shot at some strong convection next Wednesday or Thursday...and taken literally more likely Thursday

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