CoastalWx Posted September 3, 2013 Share Posted September 3, 2013 Wind damage and high dews FTW No, lightning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 No, lightning.The Capes infrastructure is on par with CT, man he loses power a lot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 The Capes infrastructure is on par with CT, man he loses power a lot Yeah but lightning is lightning. Not much you can do. Cape Cod can handle winds exponentially better than CT. They don't have the trees looming over wires like CT does. Part of the reason is that trees aren't always 100' tall like they are elsewhere. Wind keeps them in check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Yeah but lightning is lightning. Not much you can do. Cape Cod can handle winds exponentially better than CT. They don't have the trees looming over wires like CT does. Part of the reason is that trees aren't always 100' tall like they are elsewhere. Wind keeps them in check.Lots of flooding out there tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Lots of flooding out there tonight Yeah great storms for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 CT still on a roll with crazy weather, biggest hail in NLCounty since 1995 according to Ryan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina311 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I spent the afternoon in southeast MA and northern RI. Mansfield, Plainville, Attleboro, Seekonk, Swansea, East Providence, Pawtucket, Fall River. Here's a few pictures. http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/mindspin71/library/9-3-13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I spent the afternoon in southeast MA and northern RI. Mansfield, Plainville, Attleboro, Seekonk, Swansea, East Providence, Pawtucket, Fall River. Here's a few pictures. http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/mindspin71/library/9-3-13 Sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Time for Wiz low top convection fetish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 That first pic is awesome!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted September 4, 2013 Author Share Posted September 4, 2013 Time for Wiz low top convection fetish. Just about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Time for Wiz low top convection fetish. Ugh - nothing worse. 2 CG strikes and some pea size graupel in early November. Can't wait. Woooooo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 FYI - wrote up a blog post on today's hail in NL County if anyone's interested http://ryanhanrahan.com/2013/09/03/new-london-county-hailstorm/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina311 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 FYI - wrote up a blog post on today's hail in NL County if anyone's interested http://ryanhanrahan.com/2013/09/03/new-london-county-hailstorm/ I didn't know that's your blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 FYI - wrote up a blog post on today's hail in NL County if anyone's interested http://ryanhanrahan.com/2013/09/03/new-london-county-hailstorm/ Nice write up. I was on the raid, but didn't realize they had some mid level rotation. I always wondered if steep lapse rates aloft help accelerate an updraft and thus tighten and induce rotation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Nice write up. I was on the raid, but didn't realize they had some mid level rotation. I always wondered if steep lapse rates aloft help accelerate an updraft and thus tighten and induce rotation there. The steep lapse rates can help fatten CAPE and yield a stronger updraft... so it makes sense that tilting horizontal vorticity into the vertical can occur more easily with a more robust updraft. I think more importantly the fat CAPE profile (rather than those ugly crappy lapse rate skinny CAPE profiles) produces a strong enough updraft that strong vertical shear (40+ knots 0-6km vector difference today) isn't detrimental to the storm organization. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 As Wiz mentioned too... for today there was quite a bit of CAPE in the hail growth zone thanks to the steep mid level lapse rates... so that helped generate the big hail even though if you just looked at the CAPE values on paper you'd probably be a bit unimpressed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 low-top convection is annoying. ;p actually, those roaring 60kt gust nights in November can be fun, too. 60/60 with ripping south winds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I spent the afternoon in southeast MA and northern RI. Mansfield, Plainville, Attleboro, Seekonk, Swansea, East Providence, Pawtucket, Fall River. Here's a few pictures. http://s1366.photobucket.com/user/mindspin71/library/9-3-13 Awesome pictures! I love the first one, and the mammatus photo is really impressive! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 The steep lapse rates can help fatten CAPE and yield a stronger updraft... so it makes sense that tilting horizontal vorticity into the vertical can occur more easily with a more robust updraft. I think more importantly the fat CAPE profile (rather than those ugly crappy lapse rate skinny CAPE profiles) produces a strong enough updraft that strong vertical shear (40+ knots 0-6km vector difference today) isn't detrimental to the storm organization. Yep, all of the above too. Pressure perturbations FTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 This is my severe hail claim to fame..lol. Unfortunately did not see it fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey Ginx - do you happen to remember a severe storm on Memorial Day weekend 1969? http://ryanhanrahan.com/2013/09/04/the-giant-1969-memorial-day-weekend-thunderstorm/ As usual - Boston was shivering on the wrong side of a backdoor front lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Hey Ginx - do you happen to remember a severe storm on Memorial Day weekend 1969? http://ryanhanrahan.com/2013/09/04/the-giant-1969-memorial-day-weekend-thunderstorm/ As usual - Boston was shivering on the wrong side of a backdoor front lol Did that link work for the sounding? I do not specifically remember that event, I was twelve. I do know that every year we as a family had a memorial Day weekend trip to Burlingame in RI and one year tremendous TSTORMS wrecked the campground, could have been that year. Cool stuff you dug up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Also I do remember as a kid collecting hail stones the size of 1/2 dollars and freezing them. I also cut them in half and learned about updrafts and tumbling action from my science teacher Mr Cole when I brought them to school, 6 th grade so maybe it was that day. Damn you set off a chain reaction of memories lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 I bet the museum has scrolls about that as well as soil cores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Did that link work for the sounding? I do not specifically remember that event, I was twelve. I do know that every year we as a family had a memorial Day weekend trip to Burlingame in RI and one year tremendous TSTORMS wrecked the campground, could have been that year. Cool stuff you dug up. It did! The soundings then (at least what is archived) only contain a few mandatory levels so you can't get a lot of information off them.... BUT... I did get a text read out with 500mb and 700mb heights and temperatures and was able to do a lapse rate calculation. 7.9 C/KM at JFK - not too shabby. The storms would have been around 10 p.m. or maybe even later. Seems like all of the action was east of the Connecticut River. Also I do remember as a kid collecting hail stones the size of 1/2 dollars and freezing them. I also cut them in half and learned about updrafts and tumbling action from my science teacher Mr Cole when I brought them to school, 6 th grade so maybe it was that day. Damn you set off a chain reaction of memories lol I bet the museum has scrolls about that as well as soil cores. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Very late May through mid June have a nice uptick in siggy severe around here. Probably not a coincidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Very late May through mid June have a nice uptick in siggy severe around here. Probably not a coincidence. Seems like it's a favored time for some EML advection and climatologically we're able to flex some good ridging in here from the southwest that keeps our flow active/strong before the jet retreats too far north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 Seems like it's a favored time for some EML advection and climatologically we're able to flex some good ridging in here from the southwest that keeps our flow active/strong before the jet retreats too far north. It's good to keep the winter chill around too at 500mb. Takes a lot of time to warm upstairs. I miss the 90s and early 2000s. For some reason, that was a good period for severe even in ern ma. I can't recall a summer this dull for tstms locally. I mean beyond dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted September 4, 2013 Share Posted September 4, 2013 It's good to keep the winter chill around too at 500mb. Takes a lot of time to warm upstairs. I miss the 90s and early 2000s. For some reason, that was a good period for severe even in ern ma. I can't recall a summer this dull for tstms locally. I mean beyond dull. This summer has been pretty lame. Here in CT we've had a few flood and severe convection events that have kept us busy but overall - very meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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