ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Semantics aside, it's crap....whatever it is. I just want the 1990's back: We were spoiled. If you are waiting for 1992-2005 to come walking through that door, disappointment is almost a certainty. That 13 year period was even better than the late 50s and 1960s for huge storms in SNE. That's probably our period of snow glory we tell kids and grand kids about for the next 4-5 decades. Maybe we'll get lucky and repeat the process, but it was pretty anomalous. 1948-1991 saw 9 18"+ storms at ORH or about 1 every 5 years. 1992-2005 saw 9 more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Absolutely....immediate coast has owned this decade, which is terrible for me because I'm immediately NW of them......in the subsidence exhaust.. Wow on the coastal NJ traditional snow hole videos, some places remind me of 78 , just wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 We were spoiled. If you are waiting for 1992-2005 to come walking through that door, disappointment is almost a certainty. That 13 year period was even better than the late 50s and 1960s for huge storms in SNE. That's probably our period of snow glory we tell kids and grand kids about for the next 4-5 decades. Maybe we'll get lucky and repeat the process, but it was pretty anomalous. 1948-1991 saw 9 18"+ storms at ORH or about 1 every 5 years. 1992-2005 saw 9 more. I came of age at a time that primed me for years of dissapointment. But that doesn't explain the coast laughing in my face; I understand these things of in cycles, but enough it enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You live in extreme SE mass? Pretty much. SE MA is the area S & E from I-95/I-93. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I guess I can see why....Dec 1992, march 1993, Dec 1997, March 2001.....I beat the coast in all of those, but since March 2001, I have yet to beat them in huge event....I'm due. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen_CentralMass_Wx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Here is another look at the severe Blowing Snow yesterday in Central Mass. ORH gusting to 58mph when i took this . 14" new you Always get more up there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I guess I can see why....Dec 1992, march 1993, Dec 1997, March 2001.....I beat the coast in all of those, but since March 2001, I have yet to beat them in huge event....I'm due. There's been few big KU's where you really beat the coast though. Yeah I mean maybe by 3-5", but I don't know if that's a clear beatdown. You handed my ass in march '01. Other than that, you cleaned up on many swfe in the last couple of years. You schooled me in '07/'08. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 I came of age at a time that primed me for years of dissapointment. But that doesn't explain the coast laughing in my face; I understand these things of in cycles, but enough it enough. So the coast got Dec '09 and Dec '10? Big whoop compared to how you have done. 2 years worth of losing out is hardly enough to warrant a complaint. Especially considering you did fine prior to that. You can point to Dec 2003, but then you can't ignore Dec 2005...which while not quite as big, was certainly a major event and you were the sweet spot in it. Also you can't ignore the back to back Dec 2008 storms that jackpotted you and changed the coast to rain in the 2nd one. I know you have a KU fetish, but you have to look at other large events too. Sometimes you clean up in 2 or 3 large events (but non-KU) and then happen to get in a screw zone for the actual KU. It happens. I'm sure you'll get a CF jackpot at some point soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 I guess I can see why....Dec 1992, march 1993, Dec 1997, March 2001.....I beat the coast in all of those, but since March 2001, I have yet to beat them in huge event....I'm due. You should probably move. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 So the coast got Dec '09 and Dec '10? Big whoop compared to how you have done. 2 years worth of losing out is hardly enough to warrant a complaint. Especially considering you did fine prior to that. You can point to Dec 2003, but then you can't ignore Dec 2005...which while not quite as big, was certainly a major event and you were the sweet spot in it. Also you can't ignore the back to back Dec 2008 storms that jackpotted you and changed the coast to rain in the 2nd one. I know you have a KU fetish, but you have to look at other large events too. Sometimes you clean up in 2 or 3 large events (but non-KU) and then happen to get in a screw zone for the actual KU. It happens. I'm sure you'll get a CF jackpot at some point soon. I mentioned that.....point taken with regard to Dec 2008; that was lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You should probably move. Not now...I'm due; I should have sold my stock after March 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 You're a riot. You think 4' snowbanks are going to disappear by Sunday? thankfully we radiate well and should hold onto it ok...if you lived atop a hill that doesn't cool well at night under waa scenarios...you'd be in trouble. plus the snow was hvy/wet so we didn't end up with big grass spots showing from the wind. when the sun gets to work on those...ugh...hvy hvy melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 thankfully we radiate well and should hold onto it ok...if you lived atop a hill that doesn't cool well at night under waa scenarios...you'd be in trouble. plus the snow was hvy/wet so we didn't end up with big grass spots showing from the wind. when the sun gets to work on those...ugh...hvy hvy melting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Well we certainly will not have a shortage of cold air in the next two weeks. Looks like it's just a matter of getting a s/w to amplify under the PV. Hopefully it's not too strong and kicks everything out underneath us, but there are signs it could try to retrograde west and open up the East Coast for business. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 thankfully we radiate well and should hold onto it ok...if you lived atop a hill that doesn't cool well at night under waa scenarios...you'd be in trouble. plus the snow was hvy/wet so we didn't end up with big grass spots showing from the wind. when the sun gets to work on those...ugh...hvy hvy melting. Even in the sun, the snow is going nowhere fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Not now...I'm due; I should have sold my stock after March 2001. True dat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Even in the sun, the snow is going nowhere fast. well you have a sh*tload. so yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 thankfully we radiate well and should hold onto it ok...if you lived atop a hill that doesn't cool well at night under waa scenarios...you'd be in trouble. plus the snow was hvy/wet so we didn't end up with big grass spots showing from the wind. when the sun gets to work on those...ugh...hvy hvy melting. And radiate I did this AM. 9F. During the winter only the front and one side of my house see sun for any extended period of time ( hours or so). The front is the worst and that faces almost due east. I'll probably still have a solid 6" come Sunday afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 well you have a sh*tload. so yeah. We're having a NY party tomorrow, and I had to clear the snow in my back parking area so people can park. There is nowhere to park on my street, it's def a concern I have. World War III breaks out if you take someone's coveted parking spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Euro ensembles are interesting after D10....they build a monster AK ridge and a big -EPO cold dump onto this side of the pole. That's something we haven't seen in a while. We mostly have had little pieces of arctic air squeeze through AK/NW Canada via the Kamchatka ridge...but haven't seen a full blown AK ridge since briefly in late Nov or early Dec. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jen_CentralMass_Wx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Will what is your confidence level on the JAN 8th ish event? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Will what is your confidence level on the JAN 8th ish event? Given its 9-10 days out, extremely low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Even in the sun, the snow is going nowhere fast. Would you say you have 8-10 left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Would you say you have 8-10 left? LOL, at least by tomorrow you can put Scott's step 7 down on all the bare spots the wind left behind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 And radiate I did this AM. 9F. During the winter only the front and one side of my house see sun for any extended period of time ( hours or so). The front is the worst and that faces almost due east. I'll probably still have a solid 6" come Sunday afternoon. i'll just have some snowbanks left. no biggie though...another over-performing dec. 14.5" for the month. no complaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 Our cold source on the Euro ensembles in the long range is directly from north/central Siberia. Its coming straight over the top of the north pole and filling up Canada with frigid air. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Our cold source on the Euro ensembles in the long range is directly from north/central Siberia. Its coming straight over the top of the north pole and filling up Canada with frigid air. that would be a welcomed addition Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Our cold source on the Euro ensembles in the long range is directly from north/central Siberia. Its coming straight over the top of the north pole and filling up Canada with frigid air. That could be real cold. Notice how the NAO block weakens, so that ridge may really shove the PV south towards Hudson Bay. The NAO block of course may not weaken, but that's impressive to see modeled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted December 30, 2010 Author Share Posted December 30, 2010 That could be real cold. Notice how the NAO block weakens, so that ridge may really shove the PV south towards Hudson Bay. The NAO block of course may not weaken, but that's impressive to see modeled. Hopefully we can get a few gradient systems like 1994 if the NAO weakens a bit with that huge arctic blast. If we can't, then hopefully we see something try and cut into that airmass with a -NAO and then have it forced out south of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice Warrior commander Posted December 30, 2010 Share Posted December 30, 2010 Hopefully we can get a few gradient systems like 1994 if the NAO weakens a bit with that huge arctic blast. If we can't, then hopefully we see something try and cut into that airmass with a -NAO and then have it forced out south of us. Jerry will like that you used the year 1994 yeah, the pattern looks good as modeled and puts a kabosh on mild January idea's.. at least in that time frame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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