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September 2013 Observations And Discussions


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0.92" here.  We haven't had an inch of rain in a single event in over 2 months. 

 

Last night was a good rainfall, but we have been trending towards drought conditions here since mid July:

 

June - 7.17"

July - 3.93" ( 2.68" 7/1-14, 1.25" 7/15-31)

August - 1.48"

September - 1.63" (including last night)

 

The rest of September does not look wet.

 

That's probably the reason we are seeing more signs of fall color than usual for this time of year.  The trees are a little stressed.

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0.92" here. We haven't had an inch of rain in a single event in over 2 months.

Last night was a good rainfall, but we have been trending towards drought conditions here since mid July:

June - 7.17"

July - 3.93" ( 2.68" 7/1-14, 1.25" 7/15-31)

August - 1.48"

September - 1.63" (including last night)

The rest of September does not look wet.

That's probably the reason we are seeing more signs of fall color than usual for this time of year. The trees are a little stressed.

Great post. 0.99 here.

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He has a bigger warm bias than the DGEX, while it's obviously subjective yesterday felt relatively comfortable. Today and tomorrow are going to be AMAZING!

If you ask me the DGEX always manages to find mid 20s for a storm when there's literally no cold air source to be found.

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Most of C-/NE-NJ and parts of the city hit 80 (+) yesterday is more than one or two.  Friday the 80 degree readings were confined to NJ.  You guys need to settle this over a few beers or something.  Mister freeze vs Mister Heat miser. 

 

Which parts were those?  I'm well aware of the badly distorted climate record of the Greater New York area because of urbanization and various other factors...factors which make the climate there more or less equivalent to what it is like in suburban SW VA...factors which caused climatologists to actually designate the climate of NYC as  "humid-sub tropical" on the Koppen Climate Classification chart...need we exacerbate the problem further by tacking on even more pseudo-degrees?

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Which parts were those?  I'm well aware of the badly distorted climate record of the Greater New York area because of urbanization and various other factors...factors which make the climate there more or less equivalent to what it is like in suburban SW VA...factors which caused climatologists to actually designate the climate of NYC as  "humid-sub tropical" on the Koppen Climate Classification chart...need we exacerbate the problem further by tacking on even more pseudo-degrees?

 

 

I never really understood why they classified our area as sub-tropical. I think IIRC you've got to go to Canada to get temperate weather per them.

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It isn't the entire area, just the parts that average above freezing in their coldest month, which is where most people live.

 

Ok, well in that case the majority of NJ does not fall in that classification as most average < 32.0F in January. Only parts of NJ > 32F in Jan are extreme coastal NJ down to Cape May, around PHL proper, and NYC proper.

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Which parts were those?  I'm well aware of the badly distorted climate record of the Greater New York area because of urbanization and various other factors...factors which make the climate there more or less equivalent to what it is like in suburban SW VA...factors which caused climatologists to actually designate the climate of NYC as  "humid-sub tropical" on the Koppen Climate Classification chart...need we exacerbate the problem further by tacking on even more pseudo-degrees?

 

I saw some posts and readings around staten Island and other boroughs.  I think Don hit 80 in SI also.  But the 80 degree readings were in fact west of the city for the most part.  This was a great weekend weather-wise.  Rain occured during the night and we mixed late summer with fall.  Very enjoyable.

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Finally. Time for longer sleeping. :)

 

 

Fall back is the best time of year...one more hour of sleep, models one hour earlier, and winter still far enough away that optimism hasn't been completely shattered yet...radio getting ready to play some Christmas tunes...ah. Once late September hits and summer season's over, I'm pretty much ready for winter. After the first frost in October and foliage peak, I wish we could just fast forward 30 days to December 1st.

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Fall back is the best time of year...one more hour of sleep, models one hour earlier, and winter still far enough away that optimism hasn't been completely shattered yet...radio getting ready to play some Christmas tunes...ah. Once late September hits and summer season's over, I'm pretty much ready for winter. After the first frost in October and foliage peak, I wish we could just fast forward 30 days to December 1st.

Violently agree!

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Fall back is the best time of year...one more hour of sleep, models one hour earlier, and winter still far enough away that optimism hasn't been completely shattered yet...radio getting ready to play some Christmas tunes...ah. Once late September hits and summer season's over, I'm pretty much ready for winter. After the first frost in October and foliage peak, I wish we could just fast forward 30 days to December 1st.

I love fall and prefer the slow progression to winter...the leaves changing and eventually falling..days getting shorter...that period before holiday madness takes over. the only part I don't like is indian summer...70s are great now but not in mid november

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Noticing some definite low color appearing on trees the past couple days. I think many of us are going to be farther along than normal by the end of this week as we've seen a ton of nights in the 40s this September (for suburbia). Normally I'll see maybe a few 40s by this point in September but I've already seen around 10. After 40s last night, tonight, and probably through Saturday, we should have some color showing up. NNE probably peaks in about a week.     


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Noticing some definite low color appearing on trees the past couple days. I think many of us are going to be farther along than normal by the end of this week as we've seen a ton of nights in the 40s this September (for suburbia). Normally I'll see maybe a few 40s by this point in September but I've already seen around 10. After 40s last night, tonight, and probably through Saturday, we should have some color showing up. NNE probably peaks in about a week.     

 

 

 

 

Noticing some definite low color appearing on trees the past couple days. I think many of us are going to be farther along than normal by the end of this week as we've seen a ton of nights in the 40s this September (for suburbia). Normally I'll see maybe a few 40s by this point in September but I've already seen around 10. After 40s last night, tonight, and probably through Saturday, we should have some color showing up. NNE probably peaks in about a week.     

 

 

 

i was thinking that today also. It seems we have been down into the 40's a good amount this month. Its def going to help the progression of the changing of the trees. I have also notice some color the last few days.

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Noticing some definite low color appearing on trees the past couple days. I think many of us are going to be farther along than normal by the end of this week as we've seen a ton of nights in the 40s this September (for suburbia). Normally I'll see maybe a few 40s by this point in September but I've already seen around 10. After 40s last night, tonight, and probably through Saturday, we should have some color showing up. NNE probably peaks in about a week.     

 

 

I agree Iso.  Compared to 10,11,12 this Sep is much cooler, especially at night, as was a majority if August.  I already see some colors in the woods behind me and am noticing tons of leaves in the chilly pool.

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i was thinking that today also. It seems we have been down into the 40's a good amount this month. Its def going to help the progression of the changing of the trees. I have also notice some color the last few days.

 

The coole nights combined with an overall dry period since mid August should help speed along the change. 

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I'll take you one up and abrasively agree to your violent agreement.

 

What a winner today is, mid 60s and sunny. 70-75/40-50 every day this week.

 

Ill just agree to disagree for the next 65 days.  Come Dec 1 - St Patty's day ill root righ along with you fine fellas.

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Latest overnight and so far the 12z guidance offers little if any precip the next week and beyond.  Temp-wise we should moderate towards normal by  the end of the week and then see warmer weather this weekend (upper 70s and lows near 60).  beyond there it looks generally near normal the first few days of Oct.  GFS and some esembles have been hinting at a deep trough amplification in the longer range towards Oct 7th or so.  Way out there still, maybe the first coastal?

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It's the GGEM but the 12z run takes a TC northward over eastern Cuba and then through the Bahamas and off the SE coast at the same time that a strong negatively tilted trough approaches the east coast. Both the 12z GFS and 12z Euro handle the energy differently. The EC does have some type of hybrid system near the Carolina coast next week that cuts off for a day or two before being picked up by the trough.

 

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