2nd Half of August WX Discussion

[Damage In Tolland]

We had 2.5 earlier in the month, but grass is thirsty.

Yeah the last time it had rained was the Fri before we came home from FL. Lawns were toasted . Speaking of that,, its time for an app of straight fert Lesco Labor Day weekend

[Brian5671]

Its fun trying to decipher the bs from reality everyday here

gets old honestly....

[CoastalWx]

See how he changes around what I say to make me look wrong.

No, just being relalistic and trying to add truth.

[Tropopause_Fold]

1.21 ..Wow..Meso models FTW..Globals FTL

wrong.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Barely anything here as I thought. Meso models FTL globals FTW.

yep.

[Tropopause_Fold]

Man meso models like HRR nailed the rain last night and this AM..Pouring again and up to 1.39. I think the GFS and Euro had like under .50 in CT lol

do you actually look at models or just read what people write in AFDs, twitter, FB?

 

the mesos had a band of ridiculously heavy rain running through C MA, over to E MA, RI and down to the Cape. Some had like 4" 

 

the gfs and euro had a solid 1" rain in CT and about 1/4 inch here IMBY - so far...about 1/3rd of an inch here. 

[CoastalWx]

The Jan 2004 analogy worked out well.

 

This would have been an uzi swallower in January.

[Tropopause_Fold]

quick sample of yesterday morning's srefs and nmm vs euro vs radar storm total:

 

the late afternoon regional / meso guidance started to catch on that this would be a non-event for E areas.

 

 

 

 

[Tropopause_Fold]

The Jan 2004 analogy worked out well.

 

This would have been an uzi swallower in January.

 

so much for the 4" or whatever it was that CH 7 had painted here 

[CoastalWx]

so much for the 4" or whatever it was that CH 7 had painted here 

 

LOL. The HRRR was the final nail in the coffin when it sagged south. Hopefully some rain moves in ahead of that front later in the weekend or next week.  

[Tropopause_Fold]

OT but the dupage website is great. the ability to quickly switch between radar sites is pretty cool

[CoastalWx]

OT but the dupage website is great. the ability to quickly switch between radar sites is pretty cool

 

The model comparison is cool, too.

[SJonesWX]

.2 in the bucket last night for a grand total of 1.79" in Duxbury this month.

 

Even with irrigation, lawn is struggling.

it has been epic dry. you should either water for longer, or add a second watering a few days a week.

[Damage In Tolland]

LOL. The HRRR was the final nail in the coffin when it sagged south. Hopefully some rain moves in ahead of that front later in the weekend or next week.  

there should be some scattered showers/storms each afternoon. Hopefully those can hit some folks that missed last nights

[CoastalWx]

there should be some scattered showers/storms each afternoon. Hopefully those can hit some folks that missed last nights

 

The next few days will target the interior...you have a good shot of more rain.

[Damage In Tolland]

The next few days will target the interior...you have a good shot of more rain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygOaNo3M_Hw

[Quincy]

gets old honestly....

Especially when there are "supposed" to be separate threads for banter and meteorological discussion.

[N. OF PIKE]

Its fun trying to decipher the bs from reality everyday here

[Damage In Tolland]

Dew is 71. Wow

[S&P]

KUUU reporting 1.6 storm total as of around 11. over an inch since before 6AM. my lawn and i are thrilled , should soften up the greens as well.

[Damage In Tolland]

Big downpour just went to our west by like a mile

[wxeyeNH]

Extremely dry up here. .25" in past 2 weeks. Nada for last night as expected.

[Typhoon Tip]

Its fun trying to decipher the bs from reality everyday here

 

 

This is a social resource, this forum/Internet location --  once one really understands that, they either move on, or join the fray.  Take your pick, but if you fight it, it's a losing battle.

 

Back in the days of Wright Weather and Eastern, the forums were policed differently.  The moderation was less involved with the playful culture of banter and antics between users.  Over the years, that changed.  Now ... there are even a few moderators locally, and out in the general forums, that actually go so far as to initiate that kind of contact. Once that happened, unfortunately, one is less likely to find this to be a substantive resource for Meteorological knowledge and/or observations.   It just is what it is.  It's not right or wrong.  There's probably some hypothesis that could be borrowed from formally scienced crowd dynamics that could be applied to explain that evolution.

 

At some point, some upstart (if it has not already happened) will start a brand new forum out there that has stricter controls, ...specifically the type of banter that is allowed, and it will be a re-focus toward the discussion of theoretical Meteorology, and/or operational Meteorology (forecasting), and/or observational Meteorology (nowcast and storm coverage), and ...70someodd percent of the content that is posted there will be a lot drier and less playful.  Frequency of posting will be less.

 

As an after thought ... the Internet is a new beast upon the landscape of human history.  Those that can't handle it, drink the cool-aide, and think the World is ending, because it used to be that ignorance was always bliss; as the cliche goes, but it's true.    Meteorites have always been detonating in mid-atmosphere; volcanoes have always erupted and buried civility; massive Earth quakes have always inspired god-art on cave walls; solar storms; cosmic storms; super storms;  and plagues:  They've always occurred, but ... no one really knew about them until word could radiate outward away from the event at the whopping speed of horseback meets with the erosive force of time drowning interest.  

 

Compare that to this day and age.  Wow.  Not even the same universe, utterly changed.   Twitter, Internet, Telecoms, all being as advanced as they are, and integrating the globe at the speed of light is a true phenomenon, a powerful force, really.  It's sociological impact cannot possibly have begun to register fully, as these technologies are merely decades old; contrasting, all the gears and cogs that heretofore constructs Humanity's social engine, took millions of years to evolve.  The human mind now has to simultaneously process events, orders of magnitude greater than that which was required before the invention of the mere radio and telephone; not to mention  the speed of light era.  Interesting. 

 

It doesn't take a tremendous leap to see, perhaps even suspect, social duress erupting as certainly, only fractions of the population are natively capable of handling that flux; there's never been anything in humanity's history that required that kind of processing - humanity's untested.  The trick is, identifying the real science(s) and truths amid the din of histrionics and panic.

 

Well, we got a nice warm humid day here after all.  Most sites W of direct marine influence have DPs in the mid to upper 60s, and the temperatures have risen above 80F.  Looks like the Euro was too pessimistic about today, when it was modeling a cool complexion to Tues/Wed, last week.    

[powderfreak]

Wow

[Snow Bow]

Deep thoughts with Typhoon Tip.

Interesting topic though.

No rain at all here last night, lawn requires sustenance

[joey2002]

Sun coming out now with blue skies to NW. 1.49 inches of rain. That was one of the best rains I've ever had

 

Drought cancel?

[SJonesWX]

This is a social resource, this forum/Internet location --  once one really understands that, they either move on, or join the fray.  Take your pick, but if you fight it, it's a losing battle.

 

Back in the days of Wright Weather and Eastern, the forums were policed differently.  The moderation was less involved with the playful culture of banter and antics between users.  Over the years, that changed.  Now ... there are even a few moderators locally, and out in the general forums, that actually go so far as to initiate that kind of contact. Once that happened, unfortunately, one is less likely to find this to be a substantive resource for Meteorological knowledge and/or observations.   It just is what it is.  It's not right or wrong.  There's probably some hypothesis that could be borrowed from formally scienced crowd dynamics that could be applied to explain that evolution.

 

At some point, some upstart (if it has not already happened) will start a brand new forum out there that has stricter controls, ...specifically the type of banter that is allowed, and it will be a re-focus toward the discussion of theoretical Meteorology, and/or operational Meteorology (forecasting), and/or observational Meteorology (nowcast and storm coverage), and ...70someodd percent of the content that is posted there will be a lot drier and less playful.  Frequency of posting will be less.

 

As an after thought ... the Internet is a new beast upon the landscape of human history.  Those that can't handle it, drink the cool-aide, and think the World is ending, because it used to be that ignorance was always bliss; as the cliche goes, but it's true.    Meteorites have always been detonating in mid-atmosphere; volcanoes have always erupted and buried civility; massive Earth quakes have always inspired god-art on cave walls; solar storms; cosmic storms; super storms;  and plagues:  They've always occurred, but ... no one really knew about them until word could radiate outward away from the event at the whopping speed of horseback meets with the erosive force of time drowning interest.  

 

Compare that to this day and age.  Wow.  Not even the same universe, utterly changed.   Twitter, Internet, Telecoms, all being as advanced as they are, and integrating the globe at the speed of light is a true phenomenon, a powerful force, really.  It's sociological impact cannot possibly have begun to register fully, as these technologies are merely decades old; contrasting, all the gears and cogs that heretofore constructs Humanity's social engine, took millions of years to evolve.  The human mind now has to simultaneously process events, orders of magnitude greater than that which was required before the invention of the mere radio and telephone; not to mention  the speed of light era.  Interesting. 

 

It doesn't take a tremendous leap to see, perhaps even suspect, social duress erupting as certainly, only fractions of the population are natively capable of handling that flux; there's never been anything in humanity's history that required that kind of processing - humanity's untested.  The trick is, identifying the real science(s) and truths amid the din of histrionics and panic.

 

Well, we got a nice warm humid day here after all.  Most sites W of direct marine influence have DPs in the mid to upper 60s, and the temperatures have risen above 80F.  Looks like the Euro was too pessimistic about today, when it was modeling a cool complexion to Tues/Wed, last week.    

way to bring this back on topic

[Tropopause_Fold]

This is a social resource, this forum/Internet location --  once one really understands that, they either move on, or join the fray.  Take your pick, but if you fight it, it's a losing battle.

 

Back in the days of Wright Weather and Eastern, the forums were policed differently.  The moderation was less involved with the playful culture of banter and antics between users.  Over the years, that changed.  Now ... there are even a few moderators locally, and out in the general forums, that actually go so far as to initiate that kind of contact. Once that happened, unfortunately, one is less likely to find this to be a substantive resource for Meteorological knowledge and/or observations.   It just is what it is.  It's not right or wrong.  There's probably some hypothesis that could be borrowed from formally scienced crowd dynamics that could be applied to explain that evolution.

 

At some point, some upstart (if it has not already happened) will start a brand new forum out there that has stricter controls, ...specifically the type of banter that is allowed, and it will be a re-focus toward the discussion of theoretical Meteorology, and/or operational Meteorology (forecasting), and/or observational Meteorology (nowcast and storm coverage), and ...70someodd percent of the content that is posted there will be a lot drier and less playful.  Frequency of posting will be less.

 

As an after thought ... the Internet is a new beast upon the landscape of human history.  Those that can't handle it, drink the cool-aide, and think the World is ending, because it used to be that ignorance was always bliss; as the cliche goes, but it's true.    Meteorites have always been detonating in mid-atmosphere; volcanoes have always erupted and buried civility; massive Earth quakes have always inspired god-art on cave walls; solar storms; cosmic storms; super storms;  and plagues:  They've always occurred, but ... no one really knew about them until word could radiate outward away from the event at the whopping speed of horseback meets with the erosive force of time drowning interest.  

 

Compare that to this day and age.  Wow.  Not even the same universe, utterly changed.   Twitter, Internet, Telecoms, all being as advanced as they are, and integrating the globe at the speed of light is a true phenomenon, a powerful force, really.  It's sociological impact cannot possibly have begun to register fully, as these technologies are merely decades old; contrasting, all the gears and cogs that heretofore constructs Humanity's social engine, took millions of years to evolve.  The human mind now has to simultaneously process events, orders of magnitude greater than that which was required before the invention of the mere radio and telephone; not to mention  the speed of light era.  Interesting. 

 

It doesn't take a tremendous leap to see, perhaps even suspect, social duress erupting as certainly, only fractions of the population are natively capable of handling that flux; there's never been anything in humanity's history that required that kind of processing - humanity's untested.  The trick is, identifying the real science(s) and truths amid the din of histrionics and panic.

 

Well, we got a nice warm humid day here after all.  Most sites W of direct marine influence have DPs in the mid to upper 60s, and the temperatures have risen above 80F.  Looks like the Euro was too pessimistic about today, when it was modeling a cool complexion to Tues/Wed, last week.    

this is frightening. 

[CoastalWx]

Was still comfortable in the lower 70s with mid 60s dews when I left. Nice.

[joey2002]

For Kevin...