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2nd Half of August WX Discussion


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Does anyone know if any records are at risk regarding August temperature?  I suspect we're not very close to the minimum, otherwise there'd be a lot of talk about it.  Just the same, it sure must be a good bit cooler than normal.

 

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We're barely below normal here in BTV. Only -0.6 for the month.

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Does anyone know if any records are at risk regarding August temperature?  I suspect we're not very close to the minimum, otherwise there'd be a lot of talk about it.  Just the same, it sure must be a good bit cooler than normal.

 

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I would be interested in what the below 90 consecutive day streak is at BDL
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We're barely below normal here in BTV. Only -0.6 for the month.

BTV doesn't do below normal anymore in the summer haha.

MVL is -1.3 while MPV is -2.8 and 1V4 is -3.8.

Honestly though there is something wrong with the MPV and 1V4 averages. I've noticed it before, but MVL (730ft) has an average monthly temp of 64.7 while 1V4 (700ft) is 64.6. They are almost identical and usually are in the same ballpark temp wise.

So why is MPV only -1.3 and 1V4 is -3.8 with the same average monthly temperature and a very similar climate? There's no way 1V4 averages 2.0F warmer on average than MVL at similar elevations.

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While the majority of the East coast is -2-4. Winter prelude?

BOS is exactly 0 for departure, too.

BTV suffers in the summer, especially at night.

They are averaging 5-7F warmer at night than the interior sites of MVL and MPV.

But we've been running wetter than SNE the last 4 months so hopefully that's a winter prelude, lol. Precip is correlated to snowfall up here more than temps. Mo precip means mo snow.

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BOS is exactly 0 for departure, too.

BTV suffers in the summer, especially at night.

They are averaging 5-7F warmer at night than the interior sites of MVL and MPV.

But we've been running wetter than SNE the last 4 months so hopefully that's a winter prelude, lol. Precip is correlated to snowfall up here more than temps. Mo precip means mo rain.

Boston is a total joke dude, an island alone from Richmond to Portsmouth
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BOS is exactly 0 for departure, too.

BTV suffers in the summer, especially at night.

They are averaging 5-7F warmer at night than the interior sites of MVL and MPV.

But we've been running wetter than SNE the last 4 months so hopefully that's a winter prelude, lol. Precip is correlated to snowfall up here more than temps. Mo precip means mo rain.

You expect thunderstorms in the winter?
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Boston is a total joke dude, an island alone from Richmond to Portsmouth

BTV is sort of the same in that it may not reflect the overall departures across the region. Just depending on the pattern (such as the last few weeks when we've had some great radiational cooling at night), BTV isn't the best barometer to use. All of interior VT is decently below normal on the F-6 sheets.

Likewise in the winter, if we are drilling arctic surface air south out of Canada, BTV can come in with some of the lower departures in the area.

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Meh, BTV is only -0.2" on the month.

That map seems overdone up here.

Last four months precip has been evenly distributed for the most part throughout NE, no advantage there. Winter prelude to me is big everywhere with a block in place, your temps slightly above normal due to said block with the goods spread around.
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FYI-

 

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Interesting that it has me in Green.  While our average highs in August are in the 70's, I'd have thought the number of low 70's we've had would have made for a larger departure.  To be sure, those 70's represent a much larger departure for areas to the south as indicated on the map.

 

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Last four months precip has been evenly distributed for the most part throughout NE, no advantage there. Winter prelude to me is big everywhere with a block in place, your temps slightly above normal due to said block with the goods spread around.

I'm not as optimistic but I never am going into winter. Plus the advantage always seems to be in SNE prior to winter. I like to be pleasantly surprised ;)

For us to have above normal temps due to a block is not a good sign up here, lol if that's what you think will happen. That implies some freakin' stale air masses all winter if we are watching maritime air do circles around New England.

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I'm not as optimistic but I never am going into winter. I like to be pleasantly surprised ;)

For us to have above normal temps due to a block is not a good sign up here, lol if that's what you think will happen. That implies some freakin' stale air masses all winter if we are watching maritime air do circles around New England.

You need to check your historical record, I believe Will already schooled you on Neg NAO .
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You need to check your historical record, I believe Will already schooled you on Neg NAO .

I'd have to look at snowfall in years with -NAO AND above normal temperatures.

I just think if the temps are above normal due to blocking that means its an extreme block.

But I will say that above normal temps correlates to wetter which correlates to more snow. If we are -4 in January then it's usually too cold to snow (ie jet way south). +1.5 seems optimal in January to me...but if we get the worst (warm and dry) pattern that leads to positive departures then you guys are probably screwed too.

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Interesting that it has me in Green.  While our average highs in August are in the 70's, I'd have thought the number of low 70's we've had would have made for a larger departure.  To be sure, those 70's represent a much larger departure for areas to the south as indicated on the map.

 

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Mt. Tolland winning area for greatest departures.

...Too many false, non-airport backyard readings.

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