powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Exactly, ski resorts always pull this kind of crap but the amounts hey reported was staggering. Huntermtn.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html Hey now on the ski resorts pulling this crap Honestly in this age of social media, a ski resort would be stupid to knowingly inflate totals. That's why I take photos of my measurements at Stowe, haha. Even the 1-3" dusting a on the snow board I'll take photos of. I remember one day last year folks were calling us out (folks not at the mountain) on FB saying there's no way we had what we had...so I printed off something with a date and time, went out to the snow board, and took a pic that was posted to FB. The response was awesome...people loved the fact that someone at Stowe saw that message, walked outside, and came back in with proof. But I may be more anal about snow measurements than others... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Hey now on the ski resorts pulling this crap Honestly in this age of social media, a ski resort would be stupid to knowingly inflate totals. That's why I take photos of my measurements at Stowe, haha. Even the 1-3" dusting a on the snow board I'll take photos of. I remember one day last year folks were calling us out (folks not at the mountain) on FB saying there's no way we had what we had...so I printed off something with a date and time, went out to the snow board, and took a pic that was posted to FB. The response was awesome...people loved the fact that someone at Stowe saw that message, walked outside, and came back in with proof. But I may be more anal about snow measurements than others... You (Stowe) are one of the few ski resorts that frequently underreport snow amounts. Besides for resorts inflating amounts they also sugar coat the conditions and the iciest days become "a little firm but very edgeable" (again, excluding Stowe) Sorry to veer so off topic but this weather pattern blows!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Exactly, ski resorts always pull this kind of crap but the amounts hey reported was staggering. Huntermtn.blogspot.com/2010_02_01_archive.html There was no way areas had 8-10'. The storm couldn't produce enough QPF to do so. In fact both storms combined did not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 There was no way areas had 8-10'. The storm couldn't produce enough QPF to do so. In fact both storms combined did not.I'm not the one who did the measurements Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Cool nights are coming. Can't wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I'm not the one who did the measurements I know...lol, just saying and Will agreed. Big storms bring out big weenies. Look No further to NE CT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Cool nights are coming. Can't wait.Lol not next week. Also ens are warm heading Twds Labor day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Are we talking about that storm that was a screaming soueaster in E ma and NH? The one where even Kgay gusted near 70? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I QCd data for 18 months across the globe so sorry to be a QC freak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 The VT reading surprises me because they had a pretty decent period of taint. Though I'm sure they probably got orographic enhancement even after the storm occluded. Regardless, some monstrous totals happened in elevated areas during that. But I'm skeptical of stuff over 6 feet unless its got some solid proof with it...there's always a couple weenie readings in big events where you immediately put the skeptic hat on. Doesn't mean they are always wrong, but frequently they are. Found some legit totals from CBS 6 in Albany for the period Feb 23-28, 2010... Potter Hollow, NY...64.0" (Albany County, 1300ft) Woodford, VT...62" (Bennington County, 2100ft) Berne, NY...57.8" (Albany County, 1500ft) Savoy, MA....57" (Berkshire County, 2000ft) Greenville, NY...53.3" (Green County) Halcott, NY...51.0" (Green County) These are just a sample and don't include ski area amounts. Knowing the difference between like 3,500-4000ft (like Hunter summit) and what falls at like 1,500ft, it's not out of the question that above 3,000ft on the peaks where precip efficiency is maximized there were amounts over 72". I mean we often see a 30% increase in QPF between 4000ft and 1500ft on Mansfield...not uncommon in big storms with juice to see like 5" QPF fall at the COOP at the summit vs. like 3.5" at 1500ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Lol not next week. Also ens are warm heading Twds Labor day Most of that is cut off to the southwest. We'll get a piece of it maybe, but head to Ohio if you want the heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Are we talking about that storm that was a screaming soueaster in E ma and NH? The one where even Kgay gusted near 70? He had stronger winds then I did. The LLJ was further north. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 He had stronger winds then I did. The LLJ was further north.But I'm thinking of the right storm right? I actually love those screaming soueasters . Those always produce the most tree damage since trees aren't used to that kind of pressure from that wind direction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I know...lol, just saying and Will agreed. Big storms bring out big weenies. Look No further to NE CT. Yeah no 8-10 feet but I'd honestly buy like 72". Check out the SWE following those storms...like 8-14" liquid in the snowpack in the purple/pink areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 But I'm thinking of the right storm right? I actually love those screaming soueasters . Those always produce the most tree damage since trees aren't used to that kind of pressure from that wind direction.Those events always deliver. Never any inversion nonsense Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 You (Stowe) are one of the few ski resorts that frequently underreport snow amounts. Besides for resorts inflating amounts they also sugar coat the conditions and the iciest days become "a little firm but very edgeable" (again, excluding Stowe) Sorry to veer so off topic but this weather pattern blows!!!A ski resort is still a business so no one is ever going to really say don't come today (might as well just close if you say that), but luckily up here we have to deal with that a lot less than areas south of us or outside the upslope region. It is very rare that we do a thaw/rainstorm then flash freeze with no snow on the backside. There is almost always at least a 2-4" upslope response when the cold air comes in (rainstorms leave a lot of residual surface moisture for NW flow to act on behind the cold front), and some of our biggest upslope events can come on the backside of a thaw, where there's leftover moisture, strong CAA, and usually strong H85 NW winds. That's sort of northern VT's biggest advantage over ski areas in southern VT or NH or the Adirondacks...the ability to produce natural snow quickly after a thaw. Even 2-4" followed by a night of grooming can really make a world of difference in surface conditions following a thaw/freeze cycle.The only way we get porked up here is those situations where cold is as advected in on like SW winds from central NY. Then we don't get the upslope and get the block-of-ice-after-a-thaw type experience. It's a little nuance to pay attention to after a thaw if you are thinking about skiing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Christina311 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Am I imagining things or did this thread turn into a discussion about snow? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mob1 Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Am I imagining things or did this thread turn into a discussion about snow?You're imagining it, the heat must've gotten to you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Am I imagining things or did this thread turn into a discussion about snow? First time that's ever happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Those events always deliver. Never any inversion nonsense Right , in Oct and Nov when they are the best there typically isn't an inversion Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Those events always deliver. Never any inversion nonsense The March 2010 wind event for NYC and SW CT along with Sandy all features similar processes. Semi warm such that the right forward quadrant of the storm featured a pocket of low level warmer air and then almost immediate cold air advection aloft to destabilize and mix down winds aloft. Not very common but can happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 Right , in Oct and Nov when they are the best there typically isn't an inversion Yeah and before all the leaves are down to enhance the damage. Winter months always tend to bring an inversion where it's hurricane force at like 2500ft but calm at 500ft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 When is it gonna rain ? I mean wtf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 When is it gonna rain ? I mean wtf Was it supposed to rain today? 5.31 inches this month at BDL... it's been a wet summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Still sticking to my prediction from a few weeks ago that BDL won't hit 90 again this year... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Still sticking to my prediction from a few weeks ago that BDL won't hit 90 again this year... Rest of the month looks seasonally above normal, but I don't see it happening either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scoob40 Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Damn no ASOS hit 90, helluva way to run a well advertised heat wave. Hit 90.3 here at the house today after 88.4 on Tuesday. Did it crack the 80 mark at Casa del Yinx ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Was it supposed to rain today? 5.31 inches this month at BDL... it's been a wet summer.Who cares? Have you seen lawns burning? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Who cares? Have you seen lawns burning? I haven't seen a lawn burning brown for years. I think we had a drought back in the 90s when lawns were brown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 Shocked hat in the midst of the heat talk I had a high of 81,1 at the pit. Off to Gettysburg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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