snownut Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Back from the PNW to nice comfortable temperatures and so much green, it just so wet wet here. .37 yesterday Looking forward to a lovely day today, walking the dog, getting the mowing done. Happy Sunday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I still haven't figured out how sterling does their departures the last couple years. There is obviously rounding going on that I haven't quite gotten yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I still haven't figured out how sterling does their departures the last couple years. There is obviously rounding going on that I haven't quite gotten yet It is all about rounding. Take 8/1. 83/70. So, the average is 76.5. They round up in the climo report to 77. Meanwhile the norms are 88/71, which taken at face value would be 79.5, a -3 departure for the day. But, the daily norm because of the rounding and smoothing they do with the 30 year averages turns out to be 79. So, you have a rounded 77 and a rounded and smoothed 79, for a -2 departure. Doesn't much matter for monthly climo since the unrounded values are used, and it minimally matters for daily climo because, really, outside of us who the hell cares. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It is all about rounding. Take 8/1. 83/70. So, the average is 76.5. They round up in the climo report to 77. Meanwhile the norms are 88/71, which taken at face value would be 79.5, a -3 departure for the day. But, the daily norm because of the rounding and smoothing they do with the 30 year averages turns out to be 79. So, you have a rounded 77 and a rounded and smoothed 79, for a -2 departure. Doesn't much matter for monthly climo since the unrounded values are used, and it minimally matters for daily climo because, really, outside of us who the hell cares. Cool. That's what I thought. They used to use unrounded for the monthly as we went along which made it easier to track. Now it seems to be rounded? We should be a -2.2 but maybe that is because the norms are really 87.5/70.5? Otherwise the -1.7 makes no sense. I guess in the end it is 78.1 however they get there but don't understand -1.7 unless 88/71 is bogus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Cool. That's what I thought. They used to use unrounded for the monthly as we went along which made it easier to track. Now it seems to be rounded? We should be a -2.2 but maybe that is because the norms are really 87.5/70.5? Otherwise the -1.7 makes no sense. I guess in the end it is 78.1 however they get there but don't understand -1.7 unless 88/71 is bogus. I'm guessing you are right that somewhere in the climate system is an unrounded version of 88/71 and that is what is used for the departure-to-date, but I don't know for certain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Wow, the sky is so clear... I'm at 100% of the theoretical solar max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Beautiful morning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 I'm guessing you are right that somewhere in the climate system is an unrounded version of 88/71 and that is what is used for the departure-to-date, but I don't know for certain. Why round at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Such a nice day outside Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Why round at all? Probably for the media. Nice round numbers. The rounding problem that zwyts notes doesn't really come to play there, since the media doesn't bother with average daily temperature anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Having thunderstorm withdrawal. Instability keeps me stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Amazing day outside. Was outside shooting (photography) since about dawn. Ground is pretty soaked from all the recent rains, but it's nice that we have a shot at a dry, sunny day for once. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Another cloudy non-summer day. Just 68 degrees here, with rain. I bet you'd be ecstatic if we had this weather in January We may have positive nighttime mins giving us positive departures for the summer months, but it has not been a hot summer. We've had a lot of cooler days. Hoping tomorrow is as nice as forecast. Thank goodness for that If it's not snowing, then yes, I would be more than happy to have 68 degree days in January. I love snow. I don't love cold. Sent from my Nexus 7 using Tapatalk 4 Beta Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
09-10 analogy Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Although the lack of thunderstorm activity has made it a bit boring at times, this summer has been OK in my book. Except for that one stretch in July -- when for most of it I was out of town in Beaufort SC where it wasn't nearly as uncomfortable as here, evidently -- this has been an easy summer. Another grade-A summer day today. Time to go out running. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLPressure Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Having thunderstorm withdrawal. Instability keeps me stable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NoVaWx Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 What are those lines moving on radar? Look a lot like lake effect flizzards http://marylandwx.com/klwxstate.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 What are those lines moving on radar? Look a lot like lake effect flizzards http://marylandwx.com/klwxstate.php Fair weather cumulus. http://www.ssd.noaa.gov/goes/east/wfo/lwx/mflash-vis.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 Lower 80s in our region, lower 80s along the Arctic Ocean in northern Canada. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 80/49 at 6p DCA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sparky Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 high 79 low 59 quite remarkable last couple of days. Yesterday high 70 low 65. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted August 4, 2013 Share Posted August 4, 2013 It was nice today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 It was nice today.If we don't get some hurricanes this might end up the most boring weather stretch on record by the time Oct rolls around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 10 / 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownut Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 It is almost like vacation here, shame it isn't our normal summer weather but I'll take it anytime! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmeddler Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 A lot going on in this picture, but a few things to point out. Each of the lines are 1 GFS run (the last 7). Blue Line: Warm cloud depth, the higher the better the rain making efficiency. (Scale is the far left) Red Line: Temperature (far right scale) Green Line: Dew Point (far right scale) Lower Green Line: Accumulated Rain Total (middle scale) tl;dr. IT GONNA RAIN! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nw baltimore wx Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 That graph tells me it's not going to snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 down to 61F. gonna be beautiful in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 61.2 for the low. Upper 50s in the low spots in the neighborhood. IAD at least 55, DCA 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 52F for the low. Magnificent. My burning bushes are starting to turn red and an odd Maple up the road that is always the first to go each year is already showing color. I can't wait til September; I'm already hooked. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fozz Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 If we don't get some hurricanes this might end up the most boring weather stretch on record by the time Oct rolls around. 2011-12 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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