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Early August Wx Discussion


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Why?  what are you talking about...  You've lost me, and probably more of the others than the others are willing to admit in your little cadre of posters you think you belong to.  

 

You can continue to be an adversarial DB all you want --  You have just succeeded in my blocking you indefinitely.  I won't have to see it.

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i really wanted to know more about the shark revelation. oh well.

 

back to the weather....

 

model RH fields had implied no sun today...that's failing here. 

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Next Wednesday night looks quite cold on Euro. +5 to +6C 850 temps and high pressure bulding in. If we can decouple, the typical spots could see their first sub-40F readings of the season. Most likely we'll see a bit above that though. We'll have to see how that trends.

Not as cold as Wed night but still could be a chilly one in the rad spots on early Monday morning too.

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Next Wednesday night looks quite cold on Euro. +5 to +6C 850 temps and high pressure bulding in. If we can decouple, the typical spots could see their first sub-40F readings of the season. Most likely we'll see a bit above that though. We'll have to see how that trends.

Not as cold as Wed night but still could be a chilly one in the rad spots on early Monday morning too.

 

It might be the last of that sort of thing for while afterward.   I'm sure you are already aware, but a few of the more dependable summer signal sources are indicating that the flow relaxes and allows a bit more DP-like conditions to develop over the last 2 weeks of the month.   

 

Tough to say whether that will come along with more meaningful positive anomalies or not, but after about D7 it appears the westerlies will retreat N again for while. 

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It might be the last of that sort of thing for while afterward.   I'm sure you are already aware, but a few of the more dependable summer signal sources are indicating that the flow relaxes and allows a bit more DP-like conditions to develop over the last 2 weeks of the month.   

 

Tough to say whether that will come along with more meaningful positive anomalies or not, but after about D7 it appears the westerlies will retreat N again for while. 

shhh.  No talking about anything other than 75-80 with no humdity.  Record low talk is fine, but no discussions of muggy or summery weather please....

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It might be the last of that sort of thing for while afterward. I'm sure you are already aware, but a few of the more dependable summer signal sources are indicating that the flow relaxes and allows a bit more DP-like conditions to develop over the last 2 weeks of the month.

Tough to say whether that will come along with more meaningful positive anomalies or not, but after about D7 it appears the westerlies will retreat N again for while.

That would sort of seem logical, not even looking at any data. It can't stay 70/50 all month with these deep troughs that keep digging in. It's gotta relax for a bit...it's still August.

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That would sort of seem logical, not even looking at any data. It can't stay 70/50 all month with these deep troughs that keep digging in. It's gotta relax for a bit...it's still August.

 

Ha ha, tru dhat

 

But, yeah, there's a bit more here though.  The Euro at 12z actually shows the trough filling, which is shocking for that tool.   Heh, who cares - D8 :axe:

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Ha ha, tru dhat

But, yeah, there's a bit more here though. The Euro at 12z actually shows the trough filling, which is shocking for that tool. Heh, who cares - D8 :axe:

Yeah, I'd totally be on-board in forecasting a bit of a relaxation and return of some more August-like weather, rather than these September climo air masses.

This time of year it can easily turn warm and muggy with little impetus...if that jet lifts north into Quebec for a period, we'll have another dose of summer.

Even today though is full summer feeling...I've got 78/66 but that still feels pretty summery with dews creeping up and the temp punching to 80-81F when the sun comes out.

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The shark thing is ridiculous. Every summer the media gets worse and worse. They ordered everyone out of the water in Weymouth for what probably is a sun fish.

You should watch Return of Jaws on Discovery, very educational. I doubt it was a sunfish with the spotter network they have in place. We had to tell lots of people to get out of the water every year because of sunfish scares. We would take the lifeboat out to see if it was a sunfish. I have been in the water when a 6 foot blue shark was nearby, not fun. But in recorded history no one has ever been bitten in RI waters.I would be nervous on the cape if seals were nearby. There are some 18-20 ft whites cruising those beaches.
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You should watch Return of Jaws on Discovery, very educational. I doubt it was a sunfish with the spotter network they have in place. We had to tell lots of people to get out of the water every year because of sunfish scares. We would take the lifeboat out to see if it was a sunfish. I have been in the water when a 6 foot blue shark was nearby, not fun. But in recorded history no one has ever been bitten in RI waters.I would be nervous on the cape if seals were nearby. There are some 18-20 ft whites cruising those beaches.

 

Another SOS. Summer of Sharks v2.0

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The shark thing is ridiculous. Every summer the media gets worse and worse. They ordered everyone out of the water in Weymouth for what probably is a sun fish.

 

My perspective on this is that with more seal population and "apparently" warming SSTs (in time) a more and more brazen shark population would be entirely intuitive as a result. I mean, that's how biota moves around, by opportunity. Duh.

 

Great whites have been seen in the area -- seal attraction has increased.   Let's throw warm SSTs and humans into the fray.

 

I agree that hyping something like that is really bad, but, awareness is necessary - imho.  I guess it's tough to bring awareness to something like that because it taps into primal fears so deeply that it winds people up to even discuss the subject matter.   

 

To date there has never been a Great White attack on the Cape and Islands, but conditions conducive to an attack have been going the wrong way at at some point, we're going to get a evening news report showing and emerald green summer wave curling over with the old silhouette set behind a backdrop of boogie boarders.   

 

Edit:  actually, there is an attack on CC:    http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/08/08/13183496-great-white-shark-responsible-for-attack-off-cape-cod-officials-confirm?lite

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My perspective on this is that with more seal population and "apparently" warming SSTs (in time) a more and more brazen shark population would be entirely intuitive as a result. I mean, that's how biota moves around, by opportunity. Duh.

Great whites have been seen in the area -- seal attraction has increased. Let's throw warm SSTs and humans into the fray.

I agree that hyping something like that is really bad, but, awareness is necessary - imho. I guess it's tough to bring awareness to something like that because it taps into primal fears so deeply that it winds people up to even discuss the subject matter.

To date there has never been a Great White attack on the Cape and Islands, but conditions conducive to an attack have been going the wrong way at at some point, we're going to get a evening news report showing and emerald green summer wave curling over with the old silhouette set behind a backdrop of boogie boarders.

You do know SSTs have nothing to do with it? Whites stay around until November with temps in the 40's, like I said watch that show, very educational.
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You do know SSTs have nothing to do with it? Whites stay around until November with temps in the 40's, like I said watch that show, very educational.

 

 

You're right, Steve -- I mean in a general theme, warmer waters are going to attract more and more dangerous species.   

 

Having said that, we still get our SST's down into the low 40/upper 30s by the end of February most years, so it's probably the less important factor.  

 

Great White sharks are also warm blooded -- 

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