CoastalWx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Top average Max temps at BDL in July: 1966: 89.2 1955: 88.6 1999: 88.5 2010: 88.4 1995: 88.4 1952: 87.7 1949: 87.7 1994: 87.6 1983: 87.4 2013: 87.4 2011: 87.3 So the maxes were definitely below some of the other big dog Julys known for heat waves. Record average minimum at BDL in July: 1921: 66.7 1994: 66.6 and 2013: 68.9 Absolutely shattering the previous record. Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Bingo. It was brutal and having used a past tense reference makes it even easier to talk about. Gone like a freight train, gone like yesterday, gone like the civil war, shes gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It was brutal and having used a past tense reference makes it even easier to talk about. Gone like a freight train, gone like yesterday, gone like the civil war, shes gone. Yeah, I'm not taking away from the temps...it was just not your normal way of breaking records...which speaks for the ridiculous dewpoints we had. More water vapor/heat capacity of water means temps will not drop much. Might aslo partially explain why temps never got so high...it takes a lot of energy to heat the air with high water content. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Total awesomeness on the GFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Uh oh.. From Paul at accuwx I am backing off on the heat returning in the Northeast. The warmer-than-normal departures may come in a different way. The warm nights will return as humidity levels increase again. Heading into late next week into the following week, next week, we notice a slight change in the pattern, a more amplified pattern. The ridge will build again over the Rockies and western Canada in response to the upper trough returning to the western Gulf of Alaska. I would like to see a stronger trough on the models. This will bring a return of the monsoonal moisture into the Southwest. Also, the heat will build across the West and north-central Rockies during this time. Across the Plains, the trough will deepen and sink fronts a little farther south. Cooler weather will reach the eastern Ohio and Tennessee valleys but have a difficult time reaching the East Coast as the southwest flow looks stronger. That means more humid conditions for the East. Upper heights build across eastern Canada and the northwestern Atlantic, but not enough to build the same kind of heat we saw earlier in the month. The humidity and mild nights could start later next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 31, 2013 Author Share Posted July 31, 2013 Yeah, I'm not taking away from the temps...it was just not your normal way of breaking records...which speaks for the ridiculous dewpoints we had. More water vapor/heat capacity of water means temps will not drop much. Might aslo partially explain why temps never got so high...it takes a lot of energy to heat the air with high water content. Ironic that Mr. High Humidity is getting so defensive about this... it seems as if this is the way he would WANT to break a record. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Ironic that Mr. High Humidity is getting so defensive about this... it seems as if this is the way he would WANT to break a record.Huh? I'm not defensive at all. We just experienced the hottest month we've ever had. No sugar coating that bad boy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Sure but you don't want NW Canada torched. See 2001. You want nice cold air supply up there Its months before we have to worry about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NECT Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Huh? I'm not defensive at all. We just experienced the hottest month we've ever had. No sugar coating that bad boy It had the hottest average temperature....but we weren't blazing aoa 100º. It was brutally humid, and nights sucked if you had no a/c. If nobody told me it was the hottest July on record, I wouldn't have guessed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Huh? I'm not defensive at all. We just experienced the hottest month we've ever had. No sugar coating that bad boy I'm just glad the average high was lower than many other hot July's. Those three 90° days were brutal in our backyards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Its months before we have to worry about that. Exactly. The ice coverage tends to reach its nadir around 9/10...still roughly 6 weeks away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Its months before we have to worry about that. I wouldn't mind a mild September/October if we flipped cooler in November. The past week and the coming weeks as progged have good timing for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 It had the hottest average temperature....but we weren't blazing aoa 100º. It was brutally humid, and nights sucked if you had no a/c. If nobody told me it was the hottest July on record, I wouldn't have guessed.We had this place "Hotter than hell" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Uh oh.. From Paul at accuwx I am backing off on the heat returning in the Northeast. The warmer-than-normal departures may come in a different way. The warm nights will return as humidity levels increase again. Heading into late next week into the following week, next week, we notice a slight change in the pattern, a more amplified pattern. The ridge will build again over the Rockies and western Canada in response to the upper trough returning to the western Gulf of Alaska. I would like to see a stronger trough on the models. This will bring a return of the monsoonal moisture into the Southwest. Also, the heat will build across the West and north-central Rockies during this time. Across the Plains, the trough will deepen and sink fronts a little farther south. Cooler weather will reach the eastern Ohio and Tennessee valleys but have a difficult time reaching the East Coast as the southwest flow looks stronger. That means more humid conditions for the East. Upper heights build across eastern Canada and the northwestern Atlantic, but not enough to build the same kind of heat we saw earlier in the month. The humidity and mild nights could start later next week. uh no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I wouldn't mind a mild September/October if we flipped cooler in November. The past week and the coming weeks as progged have good timing for me. I'm with you.... we do cooler for Aug, turns warm for a period Sept/Oct, then cycles cooler Nov/Dec. Average 6 week cycles haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NECT Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 We had this place "Hotter than hell" Meh. Nights were way too hot, I'll agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Meh. Nights were way too hot, I'll agree with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 uh no he might be right-if the trough builds in the Great lakes/midwest, we'd be in the southerly/humid flow...all depends where the trough axis is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 round and round we go... Hot not hot brutal not brutal What boring weather we've had I bet we all agree on that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 he might be right-if the trough builds in the Great lakes/midwest, we'd be in the southerly/humid flow...all depends where the trough axis is Omega Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Many of the other record July had highs much hotter. The period of high dews is what really did it with overnight lows astronomically high. That was the biggest reason. Check the last CLMBDL, this July was no different than last July (12 days AOA 90 degress, average high around 87), EXCEPT that the lows averaged 3 degrees warmer than 2012 and around 6 degrees above normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 But aren't you basically guaranteed high overnight departures when your daytime highs are running +10 and above. They go hand-in-hand to me. It's not bootleg to me at all. July 14th-20th sticks out to me. I don't get too many 7 day heatwaves. At BDL there were no 100 degree days, no record highs, and 9 days had high temps which were below average. July 2013 still easily became the hottest month on record... largely because of all the 88/73 type days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WNash Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I should try to come up with a weenie metric somewhat similar to HDD/CDD that calculates daily temp spread relative to climo daily means. Call it "Weenie Degree Days" or "WDD" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 July 2013 is going to end up slightly the coolest July wrt avg max temps in the last 4 years IMBY. Definitely bootleg up here. Same here. Pending today's numbers (about 75/50), my final avg max of about 76.1 is actually 0.5F under my 16-yr avg, and ranks 10th of 16. However, the July minima will average about 57.2, which is +3.1F, 2nd mildest, and just 0.4F from 2010. A neat fact is it also will end up hottest month ever too, not just hottest July Well, duh! If one looked at the 100 longest and reasonably complete temperature datasets in New England, I'd be surprised if more than 5 set their warmest month any time but in July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I should try to come up with a weenie metric somewhat similar to HDD/CDD that calculates daily temp spread relative to climo daily means. Call it "Weenie Degree Days" or "WDD" Couldn't we do something similar to the DJIA and sum up the daily departure from normal? The WDD could be a total of every months sum of daily departures. I wonder how that would work long term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 I should try to come up with a weenie metric somewhat similar to HDD/CDD that calculates daily temp spread relative to climo daily means. Call it "Weenie Degree Days" or "WDD" Incorporate dews , use a metric, over 65 and under, actually just like CDD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Couldn't we do something similar to the DJIA and sum up the daily departure from normal? The WDD could be a total of every months sum of daily departures. I wonder how that would work long term? So as an example, I took my own data against my long term normals and summed up every month's departures from normal since May 1985. The data is kind of interesting and it shows how extreme a month can be compared to normal - not just one given day. Oh, the departure is in celcius because that's what I keep my records in. This July was a +65 relative to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Incorporate dews , use a metric, over 65 and under, actually just like CDD The problem is access to that data. I was thinking another way might be a calculation based on the max or min departure from normal instead of just the average departure from normal. I have the daily data so I guess I could figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 So as an example, I took my own data against my long term normals and summed up every month's departures from normal since May 1985. The data is kind of interesting and it shows how extreme a month can be compared to normal - not just one given day. Oh, the departure is in celcius because that's what I keep my records in. This July was a +65 relative to normal. Nice! Dec '89 really jumps out, and what month in '87 was nearly -300? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
butterfish55 Posted July 31, 2013 Share Posted July 31, 2013 Halfway thru our yearly vacation with the wife's family in Cape Breton Nova Scotia. Finally a sunny day, 75/63. If any of you have been up this way, you'll believe me when I say this is the nicest place (beaches, beer, people, beer, culture, beer, golf, scenery, etc) on the east coast. Inverness/Lake Ainslie area is just spectacular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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