Late July Pattern Change - Wx Discussion

[Ginx snewx]

Boot leg overnight lows.

it was bootleg until the heat wave but that's how it's done, high lows with a heat week. Only location in all of NE though. Tarmac FTW

[CoastalWx]

Sure they played a big role but they had like 12 days over 90. We in N CT just lived thru the hottest month in our states history. It's a month I will personally always remember with fondness . We certainly have changed the pattern now, no doubt about it

 

Many of the other record July had highs much hotter. The period of high dews is what really did it with overnight lows astronomically high. That was the biggest reason.

[Ginx snewx]

Sure they played a big role but they had like 12 days over 90. We in N CT just lived thru the hottest month in our states history. It's a month I will personally always remember with fondness . We certainly have changed the pattern now, no doubt about it

welcome back and your apology is accepted

[ORH_wxman]

BTW - BDL will shatter their warmest month on record at 77.9F - old #1 was 77.1F. 

 

 

PVD looks like a lock too....weird little strip of record departures there...since BOS/ORH won't even get top 5.

[Damage In Tolland]

Many of the other record July had highs much hotter. The period of high dews is what really did it with overnight lows astronomically high. That was the biggest reason.

But it all factors in equally. Any non wx person you ask totally thinks July was hot.

[Damage In Tolland]

welcome back and your apology is accepted

Just glad I'm heading south for a week. One last taste of deep summer.

[CoastalWx]

But it all factors in equally. Any non wx person you ask totally thinks July was hot.

 

It was definitely hot, but the way they broke it was unlike other months. I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't hot..it sucked and thank God we are done.

[N. OF PIKE]

Boot leg overnight lows.

Lots of cool crisp afternoons, hey

[Damage In Tolland]

It was definitely hot, but the way they broke it was unlike other months. I don't think anyone is saying it wasn't hot..it sucked and thank God we are done.

I had a 33 day period that stuff dreams are made of . Now we move on

[CoastalWx]

I had a 33 day period that stuff dreams are made of . Now we move on

 

And the tstm season was one of the worst ever. We can put to rest your dew fetish now.

[CoastalWx]

Lots of cool crisp afternoons, hey

 

You know what I mean.

[N. OF PIKE]

PVD looks like a lock too....weird little strip of record departures there...since BOS/ORH won't even get top 5.

I think dewpoints well south of pike were a few degrees higher on many occassions, and low temps at nite were even more uncomfortable and higher in pvd-hfd, which was enuf to make departures from normal records, all other things considered

[CT Rain]

And the tstm season was one of the worst ever. We can put to rest your dew fetish now.

 

The best part about July 2013 was Kevin's board hiatus. 

[N. OF PIKE]

You know what I mean.

Yes i do lol

But my point is that almost every single afternoon had high dews which made it feel at least as hot at 88/73 then a 93/62 from another year w "hotter highs".

[Damage In Tolland]

The best part about July 2013 was Kevin's board hiatus.

Was it?

[powderfreak]

But it all factors in equally. Any non wx person you ask totally thinks July was hot.

Yes, I'll agree with you on that one now because of that one week of heat, amid a background of humidity the rest of the month. That one 5-7 day period was fairly impressive, even up here where BTV put up a 5-day heat wave in the valley.

I still think we get another shot of summer, probably later in August, but it'll be shorter and not as bad. But the heat always comes back. Maybe even September? We aren't doing 75/50 from here on out.

[Damage In Tolland]

Yes, I'll agree with you on that one now because of that one week of heat, amid a background of humidity the rest of the month. That one 5-7 day period was fairly impressive, even up here where BTV put up a 5-day heat wave in the valley.

I still think we get another shot of summer, probably later in August, but it'll be shorter and not as bad. But the heat always comes back. Maybe even September? We aren't doing 75/50 from here on out.

By September we want cool and fall. You get the sense we're burning the cool pattern now setting up for a brutal warm fall. The amount if warmth in Alaska and Western Canada is alarming. We don't like to see that

[Baroclinic Zone]

Boot leg overnight lows.

 

I hope you are trolling.  Aren't you invariably going to have high nighttime departures when your daytime departures are +15?  I would not call the record bootleg at all.  PVD will come in at a +5F departure for July.  Only 4 - days the whole month.  That's hot. 

[CT Rain]

The Euro is honestly ridiculous looking. That's about as cool as a pattern gets around here for August 1-10. 

[SJonesWX]

By September we want cool and fall. You get the sense we're burning the cool pattern now setting up for a brutal warm fall. The amount if warmth in Alaska and Western Canada is alarming. We don't like to see that

its mid-summer still. plenty of time to set up a cool pattern in september. However I would rather it be warm in sept and cooler starting oct 1.

[Brian5671]

BTW - BDL will shatter their warmest month on record at 77.9F - old #1 was 77.1F. 

BDR also looks to beat the old record

[Brian5671]

I hope you are trolling.  Aren't you invariably going to have high nighttime departures when your daytime departures are +15?  I would not call the record bootleg at all.  PVD will come in at a +5F departure for July.  Only 4 - days the whole month.  That's hot. 

Amen.   Funny how some will try to spin it that it was no big deal.  It was hot and uncomfortable for basically the whole month outside of the last 5 days

[tamarack]

I hope you are trolling.  Aren't you invariably going to have high nighttime departures when your daytime departures are +15?  I would not call the record bootleg at all.  PVD will come in at a +5F departure for July.  Only 4 - days the whole month.  That's hot. 

 

Probably being overly picky, but PVD had just one +15 max and BDL appears to have topped out with a +12.  It was the long run of +7 to +10 days with even greater night time warmth that set the record.

[CT Rain]

Amen.   Funny how some will try to spin it that it was no big deal.  It was hot and uncomfortable for basically the whole month outside of the last 5 days

 

I mean it was definitely a very impressive stretch of hideous humidity. I think many of us were thinking it's an odd way to break a record since so many of the hottest months had really impressive heat waves with really scorching daytime highs which this one did not. In fact the only area that really had the "impressive" heat wave was coastal CT because of longevity... elsewhere the actual heat waves were pretty meh. 

[CapturedNature]

Amen.   Funny how some will try to spin it that it was no big deal.  It was hot and uncomfortable for basically the whole month outside of the last 5 days

 

I don't think it's spin when the fact is that the average high temperature this month is LOWER than the previous records average high temperature.

[CapturedNature]

I mean it was definitely a very impressive stretch of hideous humidity. I think many of us were thinking it's an odd way to break a record since so many of the hottest months had really impressive heat waves with really scorching daytime highs which this one did not. In fact the only area that really had the "impressive" heat wave was coastal CT because of longevity... elsewhere the actual heat waves were pretty meh. 

 

We've also had more impressive heat waves in the past.  It was nothing to write home about.

[Ginx snewx]

Another stunner out here.  66/60 out here.  Bluebird day.

 

Hate to leave GC but unfortunately heading to Boston for services the next few days.  The State Trooper that's all over the Boston news stations today was my cousin.  Sad. 

sorry to hear, best wishes.

[ORH_wxman]

Probably being overly picky, but PVD had just one +15 max and BDL appears to have topped out with a +12.  It was the long run of +7 to +10 days with even greater night time warmth that set the record.

 

 

Yep mentioning that the high temperatures were not as impressive as many other hot Julys is not spin. It actually a fact.

 

Its also a fact that BDL and PVD will set its highest monthly average temperature for July. The way they got there was pretty unusual though.

[Ginx snewx]

Sure they played a big role but they had like 12 days over 90. We in N CT just lived thru the hottest month in our states history. It's a month I will personally always remember with fondness . We certainly have changed the pattern now, no doubt about it

IJD did not break any records 

[Baroclinic Zone]

I mean it was definitely a very impressive stretch of hideous humidity. I think many of us were thinking it's an odd way to break a record since so many of the hottest months had really impressive heat waves with really scorching daytime highs which this one did not. In fact the only area that really had the "impressive" heat wave was coastal CT because of longevity... elsewhere the actual heat waves were pretty meh. 

What defines a "scorching daytime high"  +10?  +15?  +20?