CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 This isn't normally the airmass for ORH to hit 90. That wind direction may be a reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Amazing how you can be cooler than ORH int he winter and warmer in the summer. Spouting off again before checking facts.. When will you learn? Just goes to show our climates are almost exact. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Congrats to Will and everyone else up there. At least 4 days of 90 or higher enroute FTW. US National Weather Service Boston MA Worcester Airport hit 90 degrees today at 2:47 pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Spouting off again before checking facts.. When will you learn? Just goes to show our climates are almost exact. Apparently only in the summer. In the winter, you have the average high of KMPV. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 BOS with likely 17 aoa 90 by 7/21. Euro looks like we can squeak another day or 3 in over the final 10 days of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Big Lady Parts, YEAH!Lol88.8F for the high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It looks like the latest thing to hype in the media land is the heat index. They love it this year since it's a great thing to hype up and tell us how we are all going to die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It looks like the latest thing to hype in the media land is the heat index. They love it this year since it's a great thing to hype up and tell us how we are all going to die.Hype sells . That's what folks want. We've said it once , we'll say it again. Hype sells Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 This isn't normally the airmass for ORH to hit 90. That wind direction may be a reason why. Northerly or NNW wind direction is good for torching at ORH...so something like +17 or +18C 850 temps and that wind direction can get it done...barely. Still, I think MOS had been spitting out 92s for them. Usually on a typical west or southwest wind, you need at least +19 at 850 for ORH to hit 90F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Hype sells . That's what folks want. We've said it once , we'll say it again. Hype sells No, that is what you want. Most people want accurate weather forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I really miss having human remarks in the many of the metars. Obviously some do, but a coworker of mine saved some good ones. Tinker airforce base had some great remarks int he 99 tornado. The SA is jsut old legacy stuff, but I like it. One of my favorites was MOONDIMVIS (Moon Dimly Visible) after a snow storm. That was the tell tale sign that the snow was ending. Another good one I just remembered was SNOINC or Snow Increasing in Intensity. Boy, I wish we had that about now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 No, that is what you want. Most people want accurate weather forecasts. There are a great deal of people who completely misunderstand forecasts whether they are hype forecasts or laid flat out straight. It's kind of a shame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 No, that is what you want. Most people want accurate weather forecasts. You are severely wrong. the public as a whole enjoys exciting, hyped up events. Whether you want to admit it or not..that is reality. The more exciting, amped and hyped up it is..the more people look forward to it, want it, need it. Not just in weather..but in many aspects of life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are severely wrong. the public as a whole enjoys exciting, hyped up events. Whether you want to admit it or not..that is reality. The more exciting, amped and hyped up it is..the more people look forward to it, want it, need it. Not just in weather..but in many aspects of life. People want forecasts for a specific location they will be in. They don't care if there is a chance of t'storms or a chance of snow...they want to know whether it will rain or snow where they will be. It's really annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are severely wrong. the public as a whole enjoys exciting, hyped up events. Whether you want to admit it or not..that is reality. The more exciting, amped and hyped up it is..the more people look forward to it, want it, need it. Not just in weather..but in many aspects of life. hype has no place in science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 hype has no place in science.There is a place for everything , everywhere. Used correctly it can be and is very powerful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 People want forecasts for a specific location they will be in. They don't care if there is a chance of t'storms or a chance of snow...they want to know whether it will rain or snow where they will be. It's really annoying Usually after I put out a forecast on fb or my blog I usually tell people if they want something more specific to contact me. I like making specific forecasts rather than general ones. I'm sure a lot of mets/weather hobbyists feel the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are severely wrong. the public as a whole enjoys exciting, hyped up events. Whether you want to admit it or not..that is reality. The more exciting, amped and hyped up it is..the more people look forward to it, want it, need it. Not just in weather..but in many aspects of life. I think you're wrong, IMHO. I think hyped up events scare them and become like the boy who cried wolf. Who here hears people have confidence in weathermen who always hype things up? I'm always hearing people blow them off, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Usually after I put out a forecast on fb or my blog I usually tell people if they want something more specific to contact me. I like making specific forecasts rather than general ones. I'm sure a lot of mets/weather hobbyists feel the same. When it comes to larger scale events it's certainly much easier to give more specific forecasts on a more local level, but when dealing with smaller scale events, such as t'storms it can be quite challenging. For example, the past two weeks where we had daily t'storm chances but the aerial coverage was going to be so isolated ti widely scattered it was quite difficult to be more specific with the forecasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are severely wrong. the public as a whole enjoys exciting, hyped up events. Whether you want to admit it or not..that is reality. The more exciting, amped and hyped up it is..the more people look forward to it, want it, need it. Not just in weather..but in many aspects of life. and the harder it is to swallow when an event doesn't pan out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 When it comes to larger scale events it's certainly much easier to give more specific forecasts on a more local level, but when dealing with smaller scale events, such as t'storms it can be quite challenging. For example, the past two weeks where we had daily t'storm chances but the aerial coverage was going to be so isolated ti widely scattered it was quite difficult to be more specific with the forecasts. Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of forecasting snowstorms because I enjoy putting those together. I love severe weather more for my own sake but when it comes to forecasting for the general public winter events are always fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Northerly or NNW wind direction is good for torching at ORH...so something like +17 or +18C 850 temps and that wind direction can get it done...barely. Still, I think MOS had been spitting out 92s for them. Usually on a typical west or southwest wind, you need at least +19 at 850 for ORH to hit 90F. Yeah I was still a little surprised, figured more NNW was the way to go, but I guess a 360 wind is good enough. I thought 88 or 89. I guess with KFIT temps, it makes some sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 There is a place for everything , everywhere. Used correctly it can be and is very powerful Your hype is getting really out of control though. It's beyond the little "tickling 4-8"" from a 3-6" event for example. It's basically pulling stuff out of your azz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think you're wrong, IMHO. I think hyped up events scare them and become like the boy who cried wolf. Who here hears people have confidence in weathermen who always hype things up? I'm always hearing people blow them off, if anything.What draws more viewers? " stay tuned for details of a chance of snow tomorrow" or " stay tuned for prospects of a major winter storm tomorrow?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I think you're wrong, IMHO. I think hyped up events scare them and become like the boy who cried wolf. Who here hears people have confidence in weathermen who always hype things up? I'm always hearing people blow them off, if anything. Hyping weather all the time certainly doesn't do meteorology any favors... ...it just makes folks focus on "the big ticket" storm that failed to form or live up to expectation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Your hype is getting really out of control though. It's beyond the little "tickling 4-8"" from a 3-6" event for example. It's basically pulling stuff out of your azz. tickling the top of the BS meter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yeah I was thinking more along the lines of forecasting snowstorms because I enjoy putting those together. I love severe weather more for my own sake but when it comes to forecasting for the general public winter events are always fun. Forecasting both is quite challenging and to me that makes it all the more fun. Even though I'm not a professional I still enjoy making forecasts as it's great experience and I do have tons of friends who are always coming to me so I really try hard to be as specific to their needs as possible, and it does add some added stress, especially if what you say doesn't seem good enough to them but in the end it's a helluva lot of fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 What draws more viewers? " stay tuned for details of a chance of snow tomorrow" or " stay tuned for prospects of a major winter storm tomorrow?" Hype certainly does draw viewers, I don't think anyone will argue that, however, the hype that goes on in weather just makes it worse. Just b/c it's what people want doesn't mean that's what you have to give them. People just aren't going to stop watching the news or the weather b/c they aren't "hyping" it up. The people in the media responsible for this don't have to cave into these people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Come to our 4th of July party "We will have games , food, and beverages" or "Beer pong, Beano and pony rides for the kids, all you can eat barbeque,and an an endless supply of ice cold beer" Which party would you choose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Come to our 4th of July party "We will have games , food, and beverages" or "Beer pong, Beano and pony rides for the kids, all you can eat barbeque,and an an endless supply of ice cold beer" That's different than weather/science Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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