HimoorWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Don't see 95F on a N wind often, but here we are. HVN SA 1753 AO2A 65 SCT 10+ 204/95/65/0105/ OWD is also 95 on a north wind, but at least the dew is down to 66 in the Great Neponset Swamp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ROOSTA Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Retaining >90°F longer today than any other previous. HOT TOMACHI'S Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 Blue Hill does it too for their manual observations. When I observed there (and still observe on occasion) it caught me by surprise but it was cool to learn and actually put to use. This was their 1:00 PM EST observation in SA code: BHO SA 1755 50 SCT 80 SCT 30 205/89/67/3209/014/ FEW MDT CU AND CUFRA ALQDS ACCG DSNT S THN K LYR DSNT ALQDS HAZY WND 29V35/ 8/260 58008 10090 20076 It's good to see relics from when I was in the business. SA's I can read, METARS I have trouble with every once and a while. Where do you actually get the SA ob? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It's good to see relics from when I was in the business. SA's I can read, METARS I have trouble with every once and a while. Where do you actually get the SA ob? I am on the Blue Hill Daily Discussion list. I can add you if you'd like. We take manual sky observations, so for cloud cover/heights, we estimate it based on our training and we typically compare it to METAR readings from KOWD (Norwood) and Boston (KBOS) to make sure we aren't out to lunch. For pressure we use a mercurial barometer that has been in use daily since 1888 (with some calibration of course), and we then use a formula/chart to convert it to MSLP. As for temperatures/dew point we use a thermometer/wet bulb thermometer from Hazen Shelter outside. For winds we refer to our 420C anemometer paper chart, and a similar aerovane paper chart. Any additional remarks are all manual. The mercurial barometer is the longest actively used mercurial barometer to this date in the U.S., and maybe even the world as far as I know (someone please correct me if I am wrong on that, but the U.S. is definite). Regardless, I loved observing there. As you know, there is really awesome weather up there! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Not bad up here today-- pretty warm in the valleys but out here in the leafy hills, we're in the low/mid 80s and certainly less muggy than it was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted July 16, 2013 Author Share Posted July 16, 2013 I am on the Blue Hill Daily Discussion list. I can add you if you'd like. We take manual sky observations, so for cloud cover/heights, we estimate it based on our training and we typically compare it to METAR readings from KOWD (Norwood) and Boston (KBOS) to make sure we aren't out to lunch. For pressure we use a mercurial barometer that has been in use daily since 1888 (with some calibration of course), and we then use a formula/chart to convert it to MSLP. As for temperatures/dew point we use a thermometer/wet bulb thermometer from Hazen Shelter outside. For winds we refer to our 420C anemometer paper chart, and a similar aerovane paper chart. Any additional remarks are all manual. The mercurial barometer is the longest actively used mercurial barometer to this date in the U.S., and maybe even the world as far as I know (someone please correct me if I am wrong on that, but the U.S. is definite). Regardless, I loved observing there. As you know, there is really awesome weather up there! That's the good old fashioned way of collecting data! MWN manually collects it's data as well. I keep my record that way but I usually only check the temperatures in the Stevenson shelter in the AM. A lab I worked at had a mercurial column barometer that they were going to dispose of. I wish I could have gotten it but it had to be disposed of "officially" to avoid a mercury spill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 We have both SAs and METARs at work. SAs give a quick and dirty view of temps, while METARs are better for cigs, vis, precip etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 That's the good old fashioned way of collecting data! MWN manually collects it's data as well. I keep my record that way but I usually only check the temperatures in the Stevenson shelter in the AM. A lab I worked at had a mercurial column barometer that they were going to dispose of. I wish I could have gotten it but it had to be disposed of "officially" to avoid a mercury spill. MWN is really good at doing that too. I would've loved to be an intern there to see the weather up there. I plan on hiking it at the end of the month. You're right, they are really stringent on the disposal of mercurial barometers. I don't even know if you can purchase them for recreational use anymore? I don't think Europe manufactures them anymore, and am pretty sure the U.S. doesn't either. I know they have some sort of new "mercurial barometer" that is non-toxic, but I am not sure what the liquid is. Regardless, it is not the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I knew a little SA before I started college, but my 1st semester at LSC was a couple of months after METAR made it to the US during the summer of 1996. All we were taught was METAR so I was able to learn it without having to deal with much of a transition from SA. METAR would be fun in the manned obs days because there's a lot of coding options for the remarks section that go unused with automation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 http://ow.ly/n13bL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Here's the 100F tweet. I guess it wasn't BDL, but since BDL is usually the torch spot I guess I just assumed it would have to be them for the state high...although HVN has something to say about that. http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/topic/40645-july-high-summer-2013-a-humid-and-warm-start-is-big-heat-lurking-banter-ok-here/?p=2359932 850s never supported 100F so the only way I would think someone would have seen 100F as a possibility would be to have taken MOS and tacking on a couple onto those BDL 98s. MOS has blown so badly on the high heat days over the last few years, and one look at the 18-21Z 850 temps would have told you there was no chance. Friday will be interesting if we can get those 20-21C 850s to verify. The Euro has a 2m 95F from PSM to BOS so someone tickling 100F is in the cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 http://ow.ly/n13bLYou may be the only runner in existence cheering on dews in the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I knew a little SA before I started college, but my 1st semester at LSC was a couple of months after METAR made it to the US during the summer of 1996. All we were taught was METAR so I was able to learn it without having to deal with much of a transition from SA. METAR would be fun in the manned obs days because there's a lot of coding options for the remarks section that go unused with automation. I really miss having human remarks in the many of the metars. Obviously some do, but a coworker of mine saved some good ones. Tinker airforce base had some great remarks int he 99 tornado. The SA is jsut old legacy stuff, but I like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 It did this on May 25th, I think it was 2010... The highs were in the mid to upper 90s on a N wind. Then, MCS came down from the NNW later in the evening. CAR tied its record high of 96 with light NW winds on 5/22/1977. Those winds also produced 95 and 94 the following two days. That's how most of the high heat gets delivered up there. (And yesterday's 35C for - I'm assuming - Bathurst and Chatham, NB is awesome.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weathergun Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Block Island is at 90. Pretty impressive. Also BDR 95, just broke their record high for the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I really miss having human remarks in the many of the metars. Obviously some do, but a coworker of mine saved some good ones. Tinker airforce base had some great remarks int he 99 tornado. The SA is jsut old legacy stuff, but I like it.Yeah...I've looked at the TIK obs before. Wunderground has all of the old obs too, but they morph the raw SA with METAR. The body of the raw code is METAR, but you sometimes get the SA remarks. I think we used to have a thread here or on Eastern for our favorite observations. I think there were some with VA and PO in there. The only one I don't think I've seen is BLPY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Widespread heat advisory from Box this afternoon: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Yeah...I've looked at the TIK obs before. Wunderground has all of the old obs too, but they morph the raw SA with METAR. The body of the raw code is METAR, but you sometimes get the SA remarks. I think we used to have a thread here or on Eastern for our favorite observations. I think there were some with VA and PO in there. The only one I don't think I've seen is BLPY. I've seen BLPY for some of these crazy places I've forecasted for in Greenland and up towards Svalbard up north of the actual landmass of Norway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 This page has a lot of dead links but it is still a useful page for these types of abbreviations: http://www.met.tamu.edu/class/metar/metar-pg9-ww.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 I've seen BLPY for some of these crazy places I've forecasted for in Greenland and up towards Svalbard up north of the actual landmass of Norway. BLPY? What does that mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
It's Always Sunny Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 BLPY? What does that mean? Blowing spray like off the ocean. Check the link I posted. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Can't afford a 2nd AC for the home. This sucks... 94 everyday and people quibbling over weather a heat advisory is necessary? Whatever -- you move 10 feet outside and your sweating. Your body sweats as defense to overheating - hello? Who ever makes rules about what qualifies this or that... what a bunch f bullschit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 BLPY? What does that mean?Boobs look pretty yummy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 BLPY? What does that mean? Big Lady Parts, YEAH! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 87F high for the day so far...BTV put up 91F. We seem to torch better on SW instead of NW flow at least in the interior of the Spine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 90.2 for the high today and FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 90.2 for the high today and FTW Amazing how you can be cooler than ORH int he winter and warmer in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 Amazing how you can be cooler than ORH int he winter and warmer in the summer. FWIW ORH did hit 90 today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 FWIW ORH did hit 90 today. You are right, this changes everything. Amazing how he can equal ORH in the summer, but be 2-3F cooler in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted July 16, 2013 Share Posted July 16, 2013 You are right, this changes everything. Amazing how he can equal ORH in the summer, but be 2-3F cooler in the winter. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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