powderfreak Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The heat advisories from BOX are killing me. Both days the highest heat index values have been out of the advisory in OKX-land. Haven't verified advisory anywhere in CT last 3 days. Is this a case that warrants it because of the holiday weekend, to raise awareness about the heat? Like a winter storm warning or Advisory that falls short but gets issued because of high impact at rush hour or its the first snow of the season or stiff like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Is this a case that warrants it because of the holiday weekend, to raise awareness about the heat? Like a winter storm warning or Advisory that falls short but gets issued because of high impact at rush hour or its the first snow of the season or stiff like that? That may be the case... the problem for us is the consistency between offices. Hard to show a heat index map with the highest numbers outside of the advisory area and then show the advisory map. Doesn't make sense and certainly doesn't communicate impact well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The heat advisories from BOX are killing me. Both days the highest heat index values have been out of the advisory in OKX-land. Haven't verified advisory anywhere in CT last 3 days. What's the criteria? I've never looked into it. I've had HI's in the low 100's the last 3 days. Just brutal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 That may be the case... the problem for us is the consistency between offices. Hard to show a heat index map with the highest numbers outside of the advisory area and then show the advisory map. Doesn't make sense and certainly doesn't communicate impact well. Yeah you guys in CT will always struggle with that due to having three NWS offices cover the area, haha. But yeah I can see how that would be hard to explain..."we have a heat advisory listed in these counties, but its actually hotter over in these counties..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 What's the criteria? I've never looked into it. I've had HI's in the low 100's the last 3 days. Just brutal. 2 consecutive hours of a HI 100-104. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah you guys in CT will always struggle with that due to having three NWS offices cover the area, haha. But yeah I can see how that would be hard to explain..."we have a heat advisory listed in these counties, but its actually hotter over in these counties..." Yeah which is why in a case like this I just ignore the advisory. Not worth explaining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 From BTV's Facebook: "The dewpoint here at BTV just dropped below 60 degrees for the first time since 9 AM Tuesday." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 The heat advisories from BOX are killing me. Both days the highest heat index values have been out of the advisory in OKX-land. Haven't verified advisory anywhere in CT last 3 days. BDL had a HI of 100 at 2pm... but it dropped after that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Euro with repetitive pattern. Summer of 2013 showing its face? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 In GON hot but not brutal. Pauls Pasta FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 That may be the case... the problem for us is the consistency between offices. Hard to show a heat index map with the highest numbers outside of the advisory area and then show the advisory map. Doesn't make sense and certainly doesn't communicate impact well. These marginal cases are such a great example for the media/NWS partnership. The Central Region WFOs that had the original NWSChat fostered some really great relationships with the local media and got to the point where they asked input on headlines. A lot of those WFOs overlap multiple DMAs (Cedar Rapids had DMX, DVN, and ARX for instances). Headline collaboration can be a nightmare for those OCMs. I remember an instance of winter advection fog that was a patchwork of freezing fog advisories and dense fog advisories depending on forecaster discretion. The media outlets gave input that got the directive changed so that freezing fog is only issued when you have observations of fog depositing ice on road surfaces. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 In GON hot but not brutal. Pauls Pasta FTW HI was 99 or higher for the past 4 hours, dews between 76 and 77. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Noyes ftw? Wnw winds bringin dews down into mid 60's to KBOS , 70+ dp's pike south. EWB over to parts of cape 75 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 These marginal cases are such a great example for the media/NWS partnership. The Central Region WFOs that had the original NWSChat fostered some really great relationships with the local media and got to the point where they asked input on headlines. A lot of those WFOs overlap multiple DMAs (Cedar Rapids had DMX, DVN, and ARX for instances). Headline collaboration can be a nightmare for those OCMs. I remember an instance of winter advection fog that was a patchwork of freezing fog advisories and dense fog advisories depending on forecaster discretion. The media outlets gave input that got the directive changed so that freezing fog is only issued when you have observations of fog depositing ice on road surfaces. Yeah I really wish we had the relationships on NWS Chat like other parts of the country. It's amazing the amount of information during warning operations relayed on NWS chat from some central/southern region offices. There aren't many TV mets comfortable with analyzing radar on the fly (some are but that's probably the exception than the rule) so up to the minute info on warning decisions can be really valuable for severe wx covg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah I really wish we had the relationships on NWS Chat like other parts of the country. It's amazing the amount of information during warning operations relayed on NWS chat from some central/southern region offices. There aren't many TV mets comfortable with analyzing radar on the fly (some are but that's probably the exception than the rule) so up to the minute info on warning decisions can be really valuable for severe wx covg. It's a huge part of operations farther south and west. I was a big proponent of bringing it into operations here, but we have more interaction with OCMs outside of our CWA than anything else. Definitely something we (speaking specifically about GYX) could improve on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Kevin may be right. This summer may be memorable for its consistent humidity and warmth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Yeah you guys in CT will always struggle with that due to having three NWS offices cover the area, haha. But yeah I can see how that would be hard to explain..."we have a heat advisory listed in these counties, but its actually hotter over in these counties..." Having three offices cover a state the size of CT is pretty ridiculous--this case being just one example. It would make sense to shift Litchfield to BOX--then you'd have at least one fewer offices covering it and would have a clean break of northern/southern counties. Would also merif having the Mass zones west of the CT moved to Albany. I don't think I've ever seen the wording resembling "the VT/MA" border appear in a BOX AFD or statement of any kind. Plus, BOX radar doesn't capture things out here anyway. Speaking of Albany--anyone know where Rick's (Logan 11) been hiding out? Haven't seen a post from him in months. 79.8/66 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 82.7/66...a pleasant night out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 still 89/70 at 7pm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 could be worse. hit 100f 3 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 unfortunately, this stretch of weather is a struggle to work outside in...it's not like we don't get high dews in the summer, but usually they are broken up by periodic cold fronts that knock them back to the upper 50's... being outside in this type of weather 8hrs a day really does something on the body...and that's not me being all dramatic...it's the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 unfortunately, this stretch of weather is a struggle to work outside in...it's not like we don't get high dews in the summer, but usually they are broken up by periodic cold fronts that knock them back to the upper 50's... being outside in this type of weather 8hrs a day really does something on the body...and that's not me being all dramatic...it's the truth... Are you working outdoors these days? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 unfortunately, this stretch of weather is a struggle to work outside in...it's not like we don't get high dews in the summer, but usually they are broken up by periodic cold fronts that knock them back to the upper 50's... Yeah, totally agree, this long continuous stretch of humidity has seemed pretty unusual to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Are you working outdoors these days? yup, sure am...it's the norm for me...working for the Asian Longhorned Beetle program based in Worcester...i've 375 traps that i've hung and now will be cycling through to check the weekly catch... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Reminds me of July and August of 1988 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Are you working outdoors these days? yup, sure am...it's the norm for me...working for the Asian Longhorned Beetle program based in Worcester...i've 375 traps that i've hung and now will be cycling through to check the weekly catch... Important work! Stay as cool as you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Reminds me of July and August of 1988 What an awful winter followed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoarfrostHubb Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 What an awful winter followed!I don't recall much of the winter. Maybe 1 Smith vs Fox snowball fight at ULowell, but that summer was gross. Extended Bermuda High that year ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 What an awful winter followed! I don't recall much of the winter. Maybe 1 Smith vs Fox snowball fight at ULowell, but that summer was gross. Extended Bermuda High that year ? Hot in la also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Speaking of Albany--anyone know where Rick's (Logan 11) been hiding out? Haven't seen a post from him in months. 79.8/66 He's alive and well, I don't think he posts much here in the summer but he is active on another board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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