Damage In Tolland Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 They did drop a couple which is all we said.Drag always used the wx at top of MWN to predict our wx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 They did drop a couple which is all we said.Drag always used the wx at top of MWN to predict our wx No he didn't. He used ORH. When it was warmer vs cp it was a good torch signal providing there was no cbreeze. At least that's what I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 No he didn't. He used ORH. When it was warmer vs cp it was a good torch signal providing there was no cbreeze. At least that's what I remember.Yes he did Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 W-E line of training TCU over S VT/NH visible from near by Ayer. Couple producing showers now. Hoping one or two cells gets more robust and sends an outflow down this way. Otherwise, 92/71 here... So much for mixing out! yuck. house unbearable. Fan on high, pointed directly at my person, still feels hot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 No he didn't. He used ORH. When it was warmer vs cp it was a good torch signal providing there was no cbreeze. At least that's what I remember. You won't win, Its time wasted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I wouldn't count on a lot of relief from a trough of that nature. Similar to the last one, yet even weaker, it is more of a nodal negative between ridges and isn't really very baroclinically active as far as advecting air masses. It will help with llv convergences and subsequent threats for convection, which would certainly mitigate a good deal of heat, but the DPs may stay elevated right through D10 given oper. Euro/GFS and the bulk of their ensembles. And the extended may ridge us out all over again... Suspect you've been over this... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 85.1/77 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Yes he did If he did, he probably used it as a gauge for high temps. On fair wx days with generally uniform 850s we tend to be about 30-35F warmer than MWN. 15C/15C up at the summit doesn't mean we can't mix out though. Here's from the afternoon of 7/22/2011...same times. KMWN 221857Z 28041G51KT BKN005 BKN040 BKN090 BKN260 18/15 RMK HZ DSNT ALQDS KCON 221851Z AUTO 29009G16KT 10SM CLR 37/12 A2976 RMK AO2 SLP075 T03720122 KMHT 221853Z 28009G18KT 10SM CLR 38/15 A2974 RMK AO2 SLP075 T03780150 KBDL 221851Z 27011KT 10SM FEW090 SCT200 39/17 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP085 T03890167 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 85.1/77 85.8/71 How warm did it get on the mastif today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I distinctly remember him using MWN temps to predict what we'd have that day in his Afd. Not sure why Jeff's panties bunched Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 If he did, he probably used it as a gauge for high temps. On fair wx days with generally uniform 850s we tend to be about 30-35F warmer than MWN. 15C/15C up at the summit doesn't mean we can't mix out though. Here's from the afternoon of 7/22/2011...same times. KMWN 221857Z 28041G51KT BKN005 BKN040 BKN090 BKN260 18/15 RMK HZ DSNT ALQDS KCON 221851Z AUTO 29009G16KT 10SM CLR 37/12 A2976 RMK AO2 SLP075 T03720122 KMHT 221853Z 28009G18KT 10SM CLR 38/15 A2974 RMK AO2 SLP075 T03780150 KBDL 221851Z 27011KT 10SM FEW090 SCT200 39/17 A2979 RMK AO2 SLP085 T03890167 Sometimes it feels like 90% of posting on a daily basis is to counter or disprove some claim made by a former WOTY winner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I distinctly remember him using MWN temps to predict what we'd have that day in his Afd. Not sure why Jeff's panties bunchedDendrite just spelled that out.And it's with temps not dews. I've had dews similar to the summit of Mansfield but instead of 65/65 with fog up there, it's 80/66 down here. Using dews at elevation to translate to the surface doesn't seem to work as good as temperatures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 85.1/77BOS mix'd down to 93/70 @5I wonder if BOS had dewpoints aoa 70 while temps were aoa 90 during each day of this heat wave Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I distinctly remember him using MWN temps to predict what we'd have that day in his Afd. Not sure why Jeff's panties bunched I mean maybe useful in dry NE flow for CAD situations, but how often does the air mass at MWN really advect into SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I distinctly remember him using MWN temps to predict what we'd have that day in his Afd. Not sure why Jeff's panties bunchedYou probably remember this just as well as you used to hate humid weather a couple years ago Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I mean maybe useful in dry NE flow for CAD situations, but how often does the air mass at MWN really advect into SNE?I think a few slower folks may have misunderstood the post. I didn't mean dews. I meant the wx and temps which Brian and you understood Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 so humid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 5, 2013 Author Share Posted July 5, 2013 When the dew is 59 on top of MWN , you shouldn't expect dews to mix out Drag always used the wx at top of MWN to predict our wx I think a few slower folks may have misunderstood the post. I didn't mean dews. I meant the wx and temps which Brian and you understood lol please hurry to UUU and give all of us a July 4th vacaction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 95 for BOS today. Summer in all it's glory rolls on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Sucks that TAN went offline this aftn in peak heating. I see OWD hit 94 so likely it made it to that. Dews are tickling down which will help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 lol please hurry to UUU and give all of us a July 4th vacaction I'm glad someone else picked up on that He cracks me up...first post references the dew point on MWN, then follows it up calling folks slow for thinking he was talking about dews. This forum wouldn't be the same without the Blizz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Drag used MPV has a gauge to low temps overnight in winter. The rate of change for Dewpoints as you move up in the atmosphere is much slower as compared to air temps. Using MWN to prove a point about dews isn't a smart idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Sometimes Drag used MWN but in winter for upper air flow, ie sw flow events and CAD situations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Drag used MPV has a gauge to low temps overnight in winter. The rate of change for Dewpoints as you move up in the atmosphere is much slower as compared to air temps. Using MWN to prove a point about dews isn't a smart idea. You mean he didn't use the MWN Td in the summertime to see if dews would mix out in SNE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TalcottWx Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Kevin taking shots at Matt Noyes on twitter because he is forecasting lowering dews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 Kevin taking shots at Matt Noyes on twitter because he is forecasting lowering dewsLmao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 I distinctly remember him using MWN temps to predict what we'd have that day in his Afd. Not sure why Jeff's panties bunched Must of had a formula for figuring it out, But does not make much sense to use an air mass up at 5,000' to translate to the surface Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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dryslot Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SlantStickers Anonymous Posted July 5, 2013 Share Posted July 5, 2013 LOL. That's great. Forget about snow totals, bust a DP forecast and there will be hell to pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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