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July. High summer 2013-a humid and warm start. Is big heat lurking? Banter ok here.

weathafella

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joey2002

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Ding ding ding! We have a winner...that is why we use official stations to compare weather, lol. There's no way a town should ever have that wide a range in dew points, and highlights the variability of the home PWS. I mean how would you even map that on a meso-analysis?

 

Most of the Tolland stations are all over the place, but one of them is decent. 

 

I know from watching over time which stations are usually the most accurate. 

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CapturedNature

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KCTTOLLA16 Birch Hill Drive...90/66

KCTTOLLA7 NE Tolland...89/65

What's your point? That yours is improperly sited and can get a higher than normal dew?

 

I think one of the benefits of submitting data to the CWOP program is being able to see QC data on your data and adjust it accordingly.  I'm wondering how many people calibrate their sensors using a standard thermometer/hygrometer?  You can get them for under $50 and it's a nice way to calibrate your sensor.

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powderfreak

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Most of the Tolland stations are all over the place, but one of them is decent.

I know from watching over time which stations are usually the most accurate.

If you take the Tolland average dews right now 61-76, you get 68.5F. That value would fit in a meso-analysis around the area, including the ASOS lol.

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ROOSTA

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I really don't get the point. Either the sensors are correctly sited or they are not. Correctly sited, correct data. Instrument calibration dependant. Trying to convert the whole Western Civilization into accepting one perception is nuts.

 

BE GONE WITH THIS....please, enough.    

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I really don't get the point. Either the sensors are correctly sited or they are not. Correctly sited, correct data. Instrument calibration dependant. Trying to convert the whole Western Civilization into accepting one perception is nuts.

BE GONE WITH THIS....please, enough.

You're right, let's discuss all the severe weather we're having. It's a weather forum, things like this will be rehashed many times until something exciting comes along.
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joey2002

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lol, that's my online station.  Crap, now I really to make sure it's accurate if people are looking at it!

 

lol, well given that you live just a few miles away, I think it's been pretty accurate lately! 

 

(It's typically closest to my home readings, and not all over the place like many of the other online stations)

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You're right, let's discuss all the severe weather we're having. It's a weather forum, things like this will be rehashed many times until something exciting comes along.

Your right. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out which stations are correct and which ones are erroneous. The QC in CWOP is great. There are many a station that fall outside a SD of 2. Throw them out. I'm all in for a good debate but this is over the top. 

 

Sunday does look fantastic this far out. Maybe by Thursday the severe threat with an MCS in the NNE will temper and infuse a more meaningful dialogue.     

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Your right. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out which stations are correct and which ones are erroneous. The QC in CWOP is great. There are many a station that fall outside a SD of 2. Throw them out. I'm all in for a good debate but this is over the top. 

 

Sunday does look fantastic this far out. Maybe by Thursday the severe threat with an MCS in the NNE will temper and infuse a more meaningful dialogue.   

:lol: 

rarely happens. you know that. 

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CapturedNature

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Your right. It doesn't take an Einstein to figure out which stations are correct and which ones are erroneous. The QC in CWOP is great. There are many a station that fall outside a SD of 2. Throw them out. I'm all in for a good debate but this is over the top.

 

I think everyone gets that but there are stations (like mine) that fall near that and "fail" the QC because it expects the temperature to be higher during the day.  The problem for me is that I have a hill to west which lowers my daytime heating.  For my location it's accurate though.  That's all I'm going to say on that matter but keep that in mind when you're throwing out data.

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CoastalWx

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I would guess in order to have a record hot July like this, you'd need to do something crazy like that

 

Well ATL actually is rather high up so they aren't always like 95. Just consistently warm and muggy. But it's still impressive. However, the mins have been killing it as far as departures go. Next week will cool it down, but that BDL July record is going to get a run for its money at the very least. If that front slows a bit, Friday and Saturday are going to be infernos. Someone may tickle 100 if models are right.

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Damage In Tolland

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Well ATL actually is rather high up so they aren't always like 95. Just consistently warm and muggy. But it's still impressive. However, the mins have been killing it as far as departures go. Next week will cool it down, but that BDL July record is going to get a run for its money at the very least. If that front slows a bit, Friday and Saturday are going to be infernos. Someone may tickle 100 if models are right.

When do you think dews come back up next week? Maybe Tuesday pm into Wed?
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tamarack

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Concrete jungle?  LOL.

 

See for yourself.  It's pretty barren around the site.  This is properly sited.

attachicon.gifTAN ASOS.png

 

Judging by the shadows, the "heat effect" from the pavement would come only when winds have an easterly component (and thus any bias would probably be overwhelmed by the coastal effect.)

 

My thermometer isn't sited correctly, though it would be a bit better if I was willing to put it in the middle of the lawn.  Knowing that, I take my high temps (on sunny/PC days) with a grain of salt, knowing that the Farmington COOP will be 2-4F higher, I anticipate 87-88 at my place today, 90-92 at Farmington..  Dews I don't even bother with, taking my cue from AUG readings because of my woodsy location.  (WVL is nearer, but they often have squirrelly RH/TD readings.)

 

Edit  An earlier post noted a "mute point".  Would that it were so on some of the TD Wars.  Maybe the whole discussion is moot.  :deadhorse:

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CoastalWx

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When do you think dews come back up next week? Maybe Tuesday pm into Wed?

 

Next week is interesting. Signs are the front hangs up to our south so while winds come onshore and probably bring back some humidity, temps may be much cooler if we receive any rain.

 

But man even the euro ensembles are +20 at 850 later Friday into Saturday morning. That's might close to locking in temps near 100F.

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