July. High summer 2013-a humid and warm start. Is big heat lurking? Banter ok here.

[Baroclinic Zone]

Well dews have dropped to upper 60s AWT today. Learn something Kev.

 

'cept the southern areas.  Most are at or above 70

[ROOSTA]

The REV does take a lot of jabs and keeps on preaching. The sermon is getting old. But then again without it there would only be...   

[mob1]

Last time we checked no one lives on tarmacs

With 20c 850's tickling you to the west you might want to mix out the dews a little in order to see some real heat

[powderfreak]

How about home stations on Wunderground? Thanks in advance

lol you don't get it do you?

I understand what your station says. But ASOS are our barometer for long-term comparisons....and it's what the weather community uses to compare observations to forecasts.

No one uses their home station to verify an official forecast, sorry. There's a reason why CT mets put up BDL's stats and Boston TV guys use BOS stats...not cherry pick PWS stations.

[N. OF PIKE]

Wow bos and hfd at 90

[Damage In Tolland]

lol you don't get it do you?

I understand what your station says. But ASOS are our barometer for long-term comparisons....and it's what the weather community uses to compare observations to forecasts.

No one uses their home station to verify an official forecast, sorry. There's a reason why CT mets put up BDL's stats and Boston TV guys use BOS stats...not cherry pick PWS stations.

I do get it and as we have discussed ad nauseum on here I and many others do not agree. Dews are lower on macs than in residential areas full of trees, grass, and where humans inhabit. There's really no point in talking about it anymore. It gets old

[mob1]

Wow bos and hfd at 90

BOS is really racking up those 90's, impressive! Killington opens in about 3 months

[powderfreak]

I do get it and as we have discussed ad nauseum on here I and many others do not agree. Dews are lower on macs than in residential areas full of trees, grass, and where humans inhabit. There's really no point in talking about it anymore. It gets old

It does. It's like banging ones head into a wall. But if models or a met forecast dews to fall into the upper 60s, and then every ASOS in the area drops to 66-69F, that's a verified and correct forecast.

You love to use BDL temperatures, why not the dew point?

[CapturedNature]

I do get it and as we have discussed ad nauseum on here I and many others do not agree. Dews are lower on macs than in residential areas full of trees, grass, and where humans inhabit. There's really no point in talking about it anymore. It gets old

 

What about parking lots where people shop and urban areas where people work?

[Damage In Tolland]

What about parking lots where people shop and urban areas where people work?

Maybe set up one of your sensors in the Big Y parking lot here in town and let's see what the difference is. Just put it in one of the grocery carts right in the middle of the blacktop

[tamarack]

That's what I saw.  I always feel bad for a record that is just a hair behind the previous one. 

 

How about that 1966 average high?  I'll bet that seemed like a hot month to come close to average high of 90 over an entire month!

 

There's still half the month left and lots of time for different things to happen but yeah, we could blow the average low record away.

 

That month also set the standard for hottest avg high in NYC, it's 90.258 coming in just ahead of 1999's 90.226, though July 1999 was hotter by 1.75F.  July 1966 ranks just 8th for NYC's hottest Julys, and also behind August 1980.  The 72.6 avg low in 7/99 is 2nd to 73.8 in 1908, a month with near normal avg high of 86.3.

[CapturedNature]

Maybe set up one of your sensors in the Big Y parking lot here in town and let's see what the difference is. Just put it in one of the grocery carts right in the middle of the blacktop

 

Actually, there's a large grass open area in front of the Big Y here in Stafford that I thought about doing that to.  It's open and would meet all the requirements.  The problem is that they want to build an outbuilding there some day and I'd hate to do all that work for a little data.

 

Blacktop is not good.  That would be like some ASOS sensors that really are on the tarmac or by vents in outbuildings.  I have no idea about BDL's.  I know CEF's used be in the middle of a large grass area a decent distance from a runway or tarmac.

[powderfreak]

What about parking lots where people shop and urban areas where people work?

Probably even lower dews but hotter temps...dews should be lower over a mall parking lot than the big tall grass fields that ASOS sit in. Every ASOS I've seen has been situated quite a bit away from paved surfaces and generally in tall meadow grass. But that grass must be lacking the daily chemicals and aggressive watering of home lawns.

[powderfreak]

Actually, there's a large grass open area in front of the Big Y here in Stafford that I thought about doing that to. It's open and would meet all the requirements. The problem is that they want to build an outbuilding there some day and I'd hate to do all that work for a little data.

Blacktop is not good. That would be like some ASOS sensors that really are on the tarmac or by vents in outbuildings. I have no idea about BDL's. I know CEF's used be in the middle of a large grass area a decent distance from a runway or tarmac.

There are actually ASOS on pavement?

I've seen ALB, BTV, MVL, and MPV and all four of those are in 12" or higher grass meadows. MVL even has trees in close proximity and looks like a lot of yards around here outside of those in the woods....yet it still records lower dews than area PWS.

[Tropopause_Fold]

seabreeze kicking in along the shore now. BOS now ESE and back down into the 80s. 

 

don't know if we can pop and isolated storm along the the boundary but some pretty decent CU going up from FMH on nw

[CoastalWx]

lol you don't get it do you?

I understand what your station says. But ASOS are our barometer for long-term comparisons....and it's what the weather community uses to compare observations to forecasts.

No one uses their home station to verify an official forecast, sorry. There's a reason why CT mets put up BDL's stats and Boston TV guys use BOS stats...not cherry pick PWS stations.

Talk until you're blue in the face. We already told him the issues with PWS and he just does. It listen.

[CoastalWx]

South coast dews with winds off the water most impressive AWT as well.

[CoastalWx]

Seabreeze at home, but this is the week of 11am highs. Still 90 lol. Hot stuff.

[weathafella]

Seabreeze at home, but this is the week of 11am highs. Still 90 lol. Hot stuff.

Best of both worlds. I get my 90 and don't die on the way home later.

[dendrite]

Talk until you're blue in the face. We already told him the issues with PWS and he just does. It listen.

We need to bump these charts up 5F for the home stations...

 

[Tropopause_Fold]

South coast dews with winds off the water most impressive AWT as well.

BDL and HFD now down to 67F. actually not that bad at all. 

[dendrite]

MWN currently 57/57. Clearly dews were going to mix out today.

[CoastalWx]

BDL and HFD now down to 67F. actually not that bad at all. 

 

Look how BOS dropped with wind off the water and dew rose. Cool stuff.

[powderfreak]

BDL and HFD now down to 67F. actually not that bad at all.

But apparently irrelevant

[weathafella]

Like IJD is a bustling airport with miles and miles of concret....lol

[CoastalWx]

Looks like a great airmass moving in Sunday.

[CoastalWx]

GFS tries to tickle 100 Friday.

[HoarfrostHubb]

Took a bike ride with my 6 yo. Not terrible

My son is at scout camp on the slopes of Monadnock. I guess they are doing ok. Big lake.

Pool time soon

[HoarfrostHubb]

KFIT is 90/69

KHubbdave is 86/72

[CapturedNature]

There are actually ASOS on pavement?

I've seen ALB, BTV, MVL, and MPV and all four of those are in 12" or higher grass meadows. MVL even has trees in close proximity and looks like a lot of yards around here outside of those in the woods....yet it still records lower dews than area PWS.

 

Well, not on it, but right next to it.  Remember that the station exists for public safety at the airport, not climate monitoring though they are used that way.  I'm not saying that they are inaccurate, it's just what they are there for.  I'll see if I can find some pictures or examples.

 

I've seen ones I've seen are over open grass areas - mowed and otherwise.  BDL's used to be in a corn field at the eastern end of the airport but I think that landowner changed and it's no longer a corn field and the station moved.  IMHO, that change has made BDL a much warmer place at night.