NNE Summer 2013 Thread

[eyewall]

Did the hail video work? Youtube has been screwing up.

[eyewall]

A cool shot of a storm seen from the BTV airfield...shot by BTV:

Nice! I should have gone out for stills.

[dendrite]

59/47 and breezy. Perfect.

[powderfreak]

Multiple thermometers at the top of the Gondola at Stowe are now 39-40F at 9:20am.

It is shocking how cold this feels after being out in it for only 45 minutes or so. Wind chill is below freezing. My body is not acclimated to this yet...it's not like a radiational clear/calm type 39-40F, but a gusty CAA type chill.

[tamarack]

Had 54 at 9 last night but only dropped another 5-6F from there, as the wind never quit (GYX had called that one correctly.)  Still cold enough that the paper wasp trying to colonize our mailbox was stupified when I knocked it off its perch, thus easy to deal with.  Looks like we might make a run at 40 tomorrow morning.

 

Short (0.09" in 5 minutes) breezy TS about 3 PM yesterday, then 90 minutes later when I drove thru town, Route 2 had small piles of white along the edges of the tar, so a fair amount of small hail 2 miles from home.  Heard today from a co-worker that other places got hit harder (3" deep?) but no confirmation.

[powderfreak]

BTV dew point is down to 32F now... wonder when the last time that happened? May?

[Lava Rock]

just awesome out there.

[powderfreak]

MVL...66/34

MPV...63/33

How low will temps go tonight with these low 30s dews?

[wxeyeNH]

Temps around 70F dews in the 30's and 40's and winds becoming light (oh yeah 100% clear skies and unlimited vis) give today a 10 out of 10 for me.  I could live with this.   Mid and upper 80's with dews in the 60's is over rated!

 

PS  Just looking at the Mount Washington webcam and see tourists in shorts huddled together.  37F with wind 45 gusting to 55mph must seem a bit cool.

[mreaves]

MVL...66/34

MPV...63/33

How low will temps go tonight with these low 30s dews?

Big difference where I'm at vs home. 92/72 here at my parents in Thomasville, GA. I'm a little homesick looking of those temps.

[dendrite]

Dews in the mid 30s...ahhhhhhhh

[OceanStWx]

Dews in the mid 30s...ahhhhhhhh

 

I would say perfect day, but a big left to right wind did not help the golf game today.

[CardinalWinds]

Big difference where I'm at vs home. 92/72 here at my parents in Thomasville, GA. I'm a little homesick looking of those temps.

C'mon home, mreaves.  Inclusive of the 18 years in Panama City, four of them were spent in Tallahassee attending FSU, graduating class of 1986.  And not too far from Thomasville, actually.  These are not the droids you are looking for.... ;-)

[mreaves]

C'mon home, mreaves. Inclusive of the 18 years in Panama City, four of them were spent in Tallahassee attending FSU, graduating class of 1986. And not too far from Thomasville, actually. These are not the droids you are looking for.... ;-)

About 30 miles south on 319. Drove down Tennessee St. yesterday. We are going to the Tallahassee Natural History Museum tomorrow. Even though I have lived most of my life in Vermont and prefer it, this area holds a certain attraction for me. My parents miss VT but all of my dads surviving siblings are in this area and they were tired of the winters so until my son is old enough to travel here by himself, this will continue to be my vacation destination.

[tamarack]

Got down to low 40s but then some thin high clouds came in just before sunrise and bumped the temp up 4-5F, so no sub-40 this time.   What a nice run of late summer wx!

[Allenson]

Had six rounds of showers on Sunday with sunny intervals in-between.  One even included a five minute downpour of pea-sized hail.  All told though, it only added up to 0.25".

 

A chilly 43F for a low this morning after a high yesterday of only 66F.  So nice for what could be the Dog Days of summer.

[Lava Rock]

Got down to low 40s but then some thin high clouds came in just before sunrise and bumped the temp up 4-5F, so no sub-40 this time.   What a nice run of late summer wx!

I was expecting a colder morning. Only bottomed out at 54.5F under clear skies.

[dryslot]

Got down to 46F here this am

[CardinalWinds]

About 30 miles south on 319. Drove down Tennessee St. yesterday. We are going to the Tallahassee Natural History Museum tomorrow. Even though I have lived most of my life in Vermont and prefer it, this area holds a certain attraction for me. My parents miss VT but all of my dads surviving siblings are in this area and they were tired of the winters so until my son is old enough to travel here by himself, this will continue to be my vacation destination.

Yeah, for me Panama City is a great place to visit, but I wouldn't want to live there anymore.  Eighteen years was enough.  That said, I still get down there for a week every year to see my father, usually in the late winter.  Enjoy your vacation!

[Lava Rock]

I thought this was a neat shot of the lake below this morning with the lonely cloud above. A bit blurry after I zoomed in with the cam phone.

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/gallery/image/103-lake/

[powderfreak]

I thought this was a neat shot of the lake below this morning with the lonely cloud above. A bit blurry after I zoomed in with the cam phone.

 

http://www.americanwx.com/bb/index.php/gallery/image/103-lake/

 

That's pretty cool...awesome little geography there with the lake a couple hundred feet lower than the surrounding terrain.

[Lava Rock]

That's pretty cool...awesome little geography there with the lake a couple hundred feet lower than the surrounding terrain.

It's hard to tell, but the lake is at about 350', our house ~750'. It's been nice this summer watching the T-storms roll in the from the south. Portland is to the far left side of the pic, up and over the hill. It's been a great place to live so far.

[powderfreak]

Bump.

Been slow weather-wise in NNE....humid today and tonight with dews in the mid 60s but man the weather from SAT-THUR looks awesome.

After Saturday's forecast high of 76F, the next highest temperature forecast through Thursday is 74F...with lows in the upper 40s and low 50s each night.

That's a beauty of a week in mid-August.

[mreaves]

Bump.

Been slow weather-wise in NNE....humid today and tonight with dews in the mid 60s but man the weather from SAT-THUR looks awesome.

After Saturday's forecast high of 76F, the next highest temperature forecast through Thursday is 74F...with lows in the upper 40s and low 50s each night.

That's a beauty of a week in mid-August.

You can't believe how great this sounds to me after nearly two weeks in the

sweltering South Georgia summer. Flying back out of JAX tomorrow night. We get back into BTV at 11:30.

[Hitman]

Heading up to vt for first time since April. Can't wait. Forecast looks darn close to perfect starting Saturday.

[J.Spin]

The first issue of Powder Magazine arrived in my mailbox today, always one of the early harbingers of the coming season, and starting on page 100, I found the first installment of a two part article called DEEP.  Part 1 has an intriguing title that would probably be of interest to members of American Weather: “THE FUTURE OF SNOW IN AMERICA”.  The series documents climate change and its affect on skiing, and it’s adapted from a forthcoming book by Porter Fox entitled “DEEP: The Story of Skiing and the Future of Snow”.  In the article on page 102 I saw a comment stating that ski areas on the East Coast “have lost 15 percent of their snowpack in the last 60 years.”  The article even states that this is despite the massive snowmaking systems, so I really have no idea what that figure actually means, but since I’ve got snowpack data from a mountain relatively close to the East Coast that actually spans almost that exact time period mentioned, I figured I’d take a look.

 

I summed the snowpack numbers from the Mt. Mansfield Stake for the 1955-1956 to 2012-2013 seasons to get the usual integration of the data in the form of snow depth days.  The data actually start in the 1954-1955 season, but I can see that they were still probably getting the hang of things in that first season because there are huge gaps in the data, so I didn’t include that season in the plot.  Now the stake is a relatively high-elevation location, so that should be acknowledged, but it is still somewhat representative of the snowpack in the upper elevations of Mansfield’s east side where a lot of great skiing/human activity takes place.  The stake is also well below any sort of elevation that is totally immune to above freezing temperatures in the winter.

 

The plot is below.  What I’m going to do is to forego adding the trend line at this point and let people discuss and interpret it as they like, then I’ll come back and add the trend line after any discussion is complete.

 

[dendrite]

A wretched overnight low of 71F, but that will be wiped out by midnight tonight.

[dryslot]

TS rolling thru this am with +RN and sporadic cc and cg lightning

[tamarack]

Had a water-quality Best Management Practices inspection on my woodlot during a 7 AM TS, quite the appropriate time to check out whether the short road and tiny stream crossing was being silted.  Then on and (occasionally) off +RA since then on my drive to AUG and ongoing.  Doppler estimates of over 2" in Belgrade, well over an inch here at the office, less than 0.3" IMBY as everything since the 0.2" that fell during our 30-minute inspection has split and gone around.  We'll get our share, howeever.

 

J.Spin:  Great data.  Looks nearly flat since 1980, or a tiny bit upward.  Hard to extend it farther back, due to the under-performing 1st 10 years and overperforming next 12-14.  A fairly lengthy thread on the climate change forum (last year?) touched on snowfall (less so on snowpack) in the face of warming, and while no consensus was reached, IIRC, folks who I respect (orh wxman in particular) thought that the north country would hold steady and might even gain due to heavier precip, while locations in the MA might fall off the south edge of snowiness.

[powderfreak]

The first issue of Powder Magazine arrived in my mailbox today, always one of the early harbingers of the coming season, and starting on page 100, I found the first installment of a two part article called DEEP.  Part 1 has an intriguing title that would probably be of interest to members of American Weather: “THE FUTURE OF SNOW IN AMERICA”.  The series documents climate change and its affect on skiing, and it’s adapted from a forthcoming book by Porter Fox entitled “DEEP: The Story of Skiing and the Future of Snow”.  In the article on page 102 I saw a comment stating that ski areas on the East Coast “have lost 15 percent of their snowpack in the last 60 years.”  The article even states that this is despite the massive snowmaking systems, so I really have no idea what that figure actually means, but since I’ve got snowpack data from a mountain relatively close to the East Coast that actually spans almost that exact time period mentioned, I figured I’d take a look.

 

I summed the snowpack numbers from the Mt. Mansfield Stake for the 1955-1956 to 2012-2013 seasons to get the usual integration of the data in the form of snow depth days.  The data actually start in the 1954-1955 season, but I can see that they were still probably getting the hang of things in that first season because there are huge gaps in the data, so I didn’t include that season in the plot.  Now the stake is a relatively high-elevation location, so that should be acknowledged, but it is still somewhat representative of the snowpack in the upper elevations of Mansfield’s east side where a lot of great skiing/human activity takes place.  The stake is also well below any sort of elevation that is totally immune to above freezing temperatures in the winter.

 

The plot is below.  What I’m going to do is to forego adding the trend line at this point and let people discuss and interpret it as they like, then I’ll come back and add the trend line after any discussion is complete.

 

 

 

I saw that headline on the cover of the POWDER... I haven't read the article yet, but should before I comment.

 

Just looking at that graph though, it looks pretty darn similar with maybe less variability.