powderfreak Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Brutal timing Wxeye! Congrats New Hampshire guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 No clue how I still have power... felt like I was on the fringe of a microburst that blasted weirdly over from the east. Haven't seen the pines move like that in so many years. Lawn is covered with leaves. 8.86"/hr rain rate... plenty of small hail mixed in. A+ storm, would enjoy again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 -RA 0.01" At least my basement won't flood again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 No clue how I still have power... felt like I was on the fringe of a microburst that blasted weirdly over from the east. Haven't seen the pines move like that in so many years. Lawn is covered with leaves. 8.86"/hr rain rate... plenty of small hail mixed in. A+ storm, would enjoy again. We are hearing reports of "tree damage" in Gilford. Any idea what kind of tree damage that may be? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Stuff in NNE did well. Power of a good cold pool aloft and some forcing. I thought it was a race between drying aloft and the front, but just enough juice in the atmosphere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 We are hearing reports of "tree damage" in Gilford. Any idea what kind of tree damage that may be? I'm going on a damage tour in a few minutes... will take a loop over by the airport and along the Gilford side of the lake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 No report from the last ob out of that Gunstock station. http://mesowest.utah.edu/cgi-bin/droman/meso_base.cgi?stn=D3310&time=GMT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I'm back. Nice 3/4 mile wide swath of what was probably 45-55mph winds stretching from near the Naswa Resort and northeast into Gilford. Worst area was the top of the hill at white oaks road... road was covered with small branches and leaves and the top of a tree (maybe 6" diameter?) was blocking one side near the Summit Resort entrance. Love that roughed-up pine smell so much. Not exactly Tilton last year or Moultonboro in 1995 but it's the closest I've come to enjoying one of these sorts of things. It was neat... the rain had started to let up and the sky was brightening and it just came roaring from the most impossible direction for me to get wind from, totally against storm motion. All storms should offer these. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 I'm back. Nice 3/4 mile wide swath of what was probably 45-55mph winds stretching from near the Naswa Resort and northeast into Gilford. Worst area was the top of the hill at white oaks road... road was covered with small branches and leaves and the top of a tree (maybe 6" diameter?) was blocking one side near the Summit Resort entrance. Love that roughed-up pine smell so much. Not exactly Tilton last year or Moultonboro in 1995 but it's the closest I've come to enjoying one of these sorts of things. It was neat... the rain had started to let up and the sky was brightening and it just came roaring from the most impossible direction for me to get wind from, totally against storm motion. All storms should offer these. Thanks for the report, big help! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Well...well...well. I have complained all summer about missing every thunderstorm possible. All things even out. As I have said I am in the middle of a $45,000 landscaping project as last year we had to lift and move our house 25 feet and construct a new foundation. We hydroseeded the front on June 6th and it has come in well although I have had to do a lot of watering as you all know I missed most storms. Today the graders came and laid all the topsoil in the back area to get ready to hydroseed this week. 4 dump trucks worth! I watched the radar carefully and at midday not much but a few showers to the west. At 2pm everything was graded and raked awaiting the hydroseeding. The line of storms was also intensifying to my west at the same time. We know where this is all leading to. Heavy slow moving thunderstorm which dumped a quick 1.25" on me. The back yard quickly flooded and much of my new topsoil in now down in my pond. My landscapers had just left and has not returned my call. Who pays for this? Anyhow by far the best storm and most rain of the summer coming at the exact wrong time! A few pics attached... Sorry to hear about this. Do my eyes deceive me in the first photo? Did your landscapers seriously plant a blue atlas cedar tree in your yard? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted July 29, 2013 Share Posted July 29, 2013 Storms whipping through Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Sorry to hear about this. Do my eyes deceive me in the first photo? Did your landscapers seriously plant a blue atlas cedar tree in your yard? Yes Scott, that is what is it. Are blue atlas cedars good or bad? Looks nice right now but will it grow into a monster? Can I keep it pruned? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yes Scott, that is what is it. Are blue atlas cedars good or bad? Looks nice right now but will it grow into a monster? Can I keep it pruned? They are absolutely gorgeous but are considered hardy in zone 7, marginal in zone 6, and rather hopeless in all but the warmest microclimates of zone 5. Your USDA growing zone is 4b. If your landscaper charged you a lot for it, I'd ask they take it back and swap it out for something like a blue spruce which you can shear to keep manageable. If I thought they had any reasonable chance here, I'd have one in my tropical garden. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Weak sauce Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wow, do I feel bad for Gene. Missing all the good storms, his lawn is at the bottom of his pond and he's trying to grow trees that are suited for South Carolina oyster-shucking peeps. Stay strong, my friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 My VP2 rain gauge accuracy streak has ended... finally noticed a difference of more than 0.02" VP2: 0.95" Manual: 1.09" Would also like to add that I really love new rain gauge smell....hope it never fades. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 My VP2 rain gauge accuracy streak has ended... finally noticed a difference of more than 0.02" VP2: 0.95" Manual: 1.09" Would also like to add that I really love new rain gauge smell....hope it never fades. That's what 8-9"/hr rates will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Wow, do I feel bad for Gene. Missing all the good storms, his lawn is at the bottom of his pond and he's trying to grow trees that are suited for South Carolina oyster-shucking peeps. Stay strong, my friend. Thanks MaineJayhawk and Scott for the input. It will all get done and come out well at the end. It was a very enjoyable storm except watching money being swept away! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Good solid TS last evening 6:30-7:30. 1st half was mediocre, rumbles and maybe 0.15", but about 7 O'clock the pace stepped up with some huge and nearly vertical CG bolts that hit about 4/5 mile to my east, plus one a bit closer (and totally tree-screened) to my north. Total precip from the event was just under 0.6", no gullywasher but definitely a B+ boomer. OceanStWx: No news from the Jackman area. I've queried our West Region manager to see if he's heard anything. We may not be logging in there right now, but others are, and we'll be in there later in the year and next winter. The non-answer from Wagner suggests that Landvest might be the manager for the area you noted. They have an office right in Jackman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Good solid TS last evening 6:30-7:30. 1st half was mediocre, rumbles and maybe 0.15", but about 7 O'clock the pace stepped up with some huge and nearly vertical CG bolts that hit about 4/5 mile to my east, plus one a bit closer (and totally tree-screened) to my north. Total precip from the event was just under 0.6", no gullywasher but definitely a B+ boomer. OceanStWx: No news from the Jackman area. I've queried our West Region manager to see if he's heard anything. We may not be logging in there right now, but others are, and we'll be in there later in the year and next winter. The non-answer from Wagner suggests that Landvest might be the manager for the area you noted. They have an office right in Jackman. Thanks for looking into it. I'll be doing some more digging when I get into work in a few hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Thanks for looking into it. I'll be doing some more digging when I get into work in a few hours. Our West manager noted that we're not operating in there at present, so we wouldn't be on the short list of folks notified about a blowout or windthrow. The land managers in the target area are LandVest and Hilton, with the former having by far the most acres under management. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Our West manager noted that we're not operating in there at present, so we wouldn't be on the short list of folks notified about a blowout or windthrow. The land managers in the target area are LandVest and Hilton, with the former having by far the most acres under management. It's definitely Landvest. Just talked to them and they confirmed they managed it, but they aren't sure if anyone was out there yesterday. Looking for hail in the middle of the woods is not easy. It's not like somebody can go out there today and find a tree down. It's possible, but the hail signature dominated those storms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 You've got yourself a TBSS on that storm, but I think it's mostly thoroughly melted peas. Is there any research on which TBSSs are indicative of severe hail and which ones are not? The guidance from the WDTB is really vague. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Is there any research on which TBSSs are indicative of severe hail and which ones are not? The guidance from the WDTB is really vague. I'm not sure we really know that answer yet. But purely speculative here, I would say the TBSS that is aligned along several radials and well down radial as well. So not the little short, stubby ones, but the true spike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 I'm not sure we really know that answer yet. But purely speculative here, I would say the TBSS that is aligned along several radials and well down radial as well. So not the little short, stubby ones, but the true spike. Would be interesting to look at hail size vs heigt agl and "size" of the TBSS. Also vs environment. With dual pol and super res we see them all the time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Would be interesting to look at hail size vs heigt agl and "size" of the TBSS. Also vs environment. With dual pol and super res we see them all the time now. Given the dependence on reflectivity of wet hail, I'm not sure "size" of the TBSS would be very predictive. It's possible that "size" of a TBSS at higher elevation angles may provide more indication of size of hail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 There's my storm, nice structure. It just had to go north of Jackman... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Given the dependence on reflectivity of wet hail, I'm not sure "size" of the TBSS would be very predictive. It's possible that "size" of a TBSS at higher elevation angles may provide more indication of size of hail. Yeah I guess since you can get mie scattering from melting/non severe hail the presence of the TBSS near/above the freezing level is a better indicator? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Yeah I guess since you can get mie scattering from melting/non severe hail the presence of the TBSS near/above the freezing level is a better indicator? There is definitely something to the height continuity too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 30, 2013 Share Posted July 30, 2013 Time lapse from yesterday. Does it actually play for anyone? I've tried uploading it twice and while it shows up as done processing, it just gives me an error. edit: failed video removed, see below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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