hvysnow79 Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Where in Farilee? 1.15" at the house yesterday bringing us to 18.76" since 5/1/13. So had enough of this sh*t. Right as you turn on Rte 244 from Rte 5....that brook that runs along the road there was just roaring when we arrived on scene! I was with a FF that has been on dept 55 years and he said he has never seen water going across where it did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Mine's on a 5' cedar post, with the bracket level with the top so the gauge extends another 4-5" above. It gets washed each fall when I take it in for the winter (no matter the instructions, I don't trust it to survive a 1" rain followed by flash drop into the teens or singles, not unknown here.) Despite careful washing, it's still slightly opaque though it turns 4 only next month - not all that old. I cracked the bottom slightly trying to force it thru an icy layer to obtain an LE core in 2011, though it wasn't leaking and the added duct tape should keep it that way. 2nd downpour in AUG ongoing, though much less than #1, and this one has the dark clouds reaching at least to the south horizon. Speaking of taking a snow core... has anyone had any experience with using the Snowmetrics weighing of the snow to get LE? http://www.snowmetrics.com/store/snow-board-equipment-c-66.html?zenid=30e62070e9475ec7018560649e599152 The NWS gave me one of these 12" ones that I'm going to try to use for gathering LE of individual snowfalls on the mountain. Its the same idea as weighing a big 60" core with an Adirondack Snow Sampler, but I was wondering how accurate it would be on a smaller scale with snowfalls of 12" or less. I guess its better than nothing if you can't easily melt it down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.Spin Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Got less than you guys to the south last night... only 0.62" here overnight. Right around 20" since May 8th. Since January 1st we are at 28.75". This brought me over the 5" mark for July... though a far cry from the jackpot so far this month which has been from the Camels Hump area of Huntington south through Granville Gulf where 6-8+" has fallen South of Warren, VT has seen 8.69" of rainfall in the first 11 days of the month! That is obscene. Water every day. first_rainfall_july_11.jpg Hey, the gauge looks great – so clean! Seeing it makes me realize that I should probably give mine a good cleaning. Perhaps it’s a good time to start fresh if we’re turning a corner with the weather pattern and things will dry out a bit. It certainly looks that way based on our point forecast - there are just a couple of minor chances for precipitation over the next week: This Afternoon A 20 percent chance of showers and thunderstorms. Partly sunny, with a high near 81. Northwest wind around 8 mph. Tonight Partly cloudy, with a low around 57. North wind 5 to 7 mph becoming calm in the evening. Friday Mostly sunny, with a high near 80. North wind 3 to 8 mph. Friday Night Mostly cloudy, with a low around 60. North wind around 5 mph becoming calm in the evening. Saturday Partly sunny, with a high near 80. Calm wind. Saturday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 62. South wind 3 to 5 mph. Sunday A chance of showers before 2pm, then a chance of showers and thunderstorms between 2pm and 5pm. Mostly sunny, with a high near 85. Southwest wind 3 to 7 mph. Chance of precipitation is 30%. Sunday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 63. South wind 3 to 5 mph. Monday Mostly sunny, with a high near 86. Light and variable wind becoming west 5 to 8 mph in the morning. Monday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 63. South wind 3 to 5 mph. Tuesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 87. Light and variable wind becoming southwest 5 to 7 mph in the morning. Tuesday Night Partly cloudy, with a low around 63. West wind around 5 mph becoming light and variable in the evening. Wednesday Mostly sunny, with a high near 85. South wind 5 to 9 mph becoming west in the afternoon. It isn’t the type of forecast I’d like to see during the snow season, but certainly appreciated with the way things have gone the past few weeks. I haven’t been outside since this morning, but boy it looks refreshing out there. Look at the way that dew point has been dropping right across the lake in Plattsburgh – it’s approaching the 50s F, which should feel quite nice since it’s heading this way: As for the liquid updates at our site, with this morning’s data it’s 21.43” since May 1, and 31.10” since Jan 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Mine's on a 5' cedar post, with the bracket level with the top so the gauge extends another 4-5" above. It gets washed each fall when I take it in for the winter (no matter the instructions, I don't trust it to survive a 1" rain followed by flash drop into the teens or singles, not unknown here.) Despite careful washing, it's still slightly opaque though it turns 4 only next month - not all that old. I cracked the bottom slightly trying to force it thru an icy layer to obtain an LE core in 2011, though it wasn't leaking and the added duct tape should keep it that way. 2nd downpour in AUG ongoing, though much less than #1, and this one has the dark clouds reaching at least to the south horizon. I leave mine up all winter, Have had to bring it inside when we have had rain then it froze solid in there to thaw it out, Have not had an issue plus i use it for core samples so its near by the snow board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 lol yep I just got that one... I had been working with one that didn't measure hundredths and it was driving me bat-sh*t crazy, so I had to rely on the Stowe CoCoRAHS guy for the detailed amounts (that station is about a mile away). Right now its not mounted to specs... its on a post on the planter bed that's like 16" off the ground at the top of the post. I was just trying to get it as high off the ground as possible, though I really have no idea how high water can "bounce" back up off the ground or plants and into the gauge. I had 0.62" and the guy a mile away put up 0.59" on CoCoRAHS so its at least in the ballpark. Yeah scott, They are quite accurate, They work really well for taking core samples to for LE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 For the Maine folks, so long Keith Carson. Off to TWC. I liked that guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 For the Maine folks, so long Keith Carson. Off to TWC. I liked that guy. He was nerdy but did a good job Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaineJayhawk Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Portland isn't usually an endgame market for most I would guess. Though moving to Atlanta surely isn't a + in my book. Keith's book may vary. 77/73 in Portland. Just gross out there for my stroll through the Old Port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Front must be ahead of schedule? Dewpoint is down to 64. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxeyeNH Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Front must be ahead of schedule? Dewpoint is down to 64. Im 20 miles northwest of you and my dp is 67F. I am trying to figure out where the cold front is. I can see a few showers to my south now. I think that might be the front but Lebanon dew at 1pm was 68F. Looking forward to upper 50's dpoints! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreaves Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Front must be ahead of schedule? Dewpoint is down to 64. Im 20 miles northwest of you and my dp is 67F. I am trying to figure out where the cold front is. I can see a few showers to my south now. I think that might be the front but Lebanon dew at 1pm was 68F. Looking forward to upper 50's dpoints! Dewpoint down to 61° here in MPV. 58° at SLK and MSS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Down to a dew of 60F over here...great breeze at times and feels wonderful. I can't believe a dew of 60F feels refreshing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lava Rock Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 My wife is swimming peaks to portland this saturday. I'll be kayaking next to her. Hoping for good weather and not some dank, fog infested water crossing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Speaking of taking a snow core... has anyone had any experience with using the Snowmetrics weighing of the snow to get LE? http://www.snowmetrics.com/store/snow-board-equipment-c-66.html?zenid=30e62070e9475ec7018560649e599152 The NWS gave me one of these 12" ones that I'm going to try to use for gathering LE of individual snowfalls on the mountain. Its the same idea as weighing a big 60" core with an Adirondack Snow Sampler, but I was wondering how accurate it would be on a smaller scale with snowfalls of 12" or less. I guess its better than nothing if you can't easily melt it down. 12" seems too short (ratios are almost always lower as one descends thru snowpack, even with new snow), unless one does the sample in stages - that's what I do for snowpack cores when there's more than one tube-length. However, it's cumbersome; I have to dig a hole so I can work from the side, and use something flat and thin to serve as the "bottom" of each subsample. When there's 30"+, I need 3 or more such subsamples, and it can be difficult to avoid contamination of the remaining snowpack as I remove an upper-level core. I'm sure packing the long tube is a chore, but given my druthers, I'd prefer that to digging a hole big enough so I can stand in it to sample from its face. Question about the Adirondack tool: Does it have teeth on the bottom? Would be helpful so one can twist it to cut thru the ice that sometimes forms at ground level as snowpack gets old. Long ago when I lived in Ft. Kent, a co-worker was doing snow sampling for the Corps of Engineers in NW Maine, and he said that his instructions included the need to see dirt/duff (which would be carefully brushed off before weighing) on the bottom of the core, to ensure a complete sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 12" seems too short (ratios are almost always lower as one descends thru snowpack, even with new snow), unless one does the sample in stages - that's what I do for snowpack cores when there's more than one tube-length. However, it's cumbersome; I have to dig a hole so I can work from the side, and use something flat and thin to serve as the "bottom" of each subsample. When there's 30"+, I need 3 or more such subsamples, and it can be difficult to avoid contamination of the remaining snowpack as I remove an upper-level core. I'm sure packing the long tube is a chore, but given my druthers, I'd prefer that to digging a hole big enough so I can stand in it to sample from its face. Question about the Adirondack tool: Does it have teeth on the bottom? Would be helpful so one can twist it to cut thru the ice that sometimes forms at ground level as snowpack gets old. Long ago when I lived in Ft. Kent, a co-worker was doing snow sampling for the Corps of Engineers in NW Maine, and he said that his instructions included the need to see dirt/duff (which would be carefully brushed off before weighing) on the bottom of the core, to ensure a complete sample. Yeah the Adirondack sampler has really sharp teeth to cut to the ground through the ice layers. It can get pretty tough later in the season on the mountain when there is 60" on the ground with like 6 different thaw layers frozen in there over the course of the winter. I always dig up dirt and mud at the bottom, to make sure the snow stays in the tube. Then when I bring it up I lay the tube down and remove the organic matter from the bottom. That way I know I have all the snow and some didn't escape out the bottom. Rarely I have to deal with the snow being over 60" deep but I just use my fist and pack the snow into the tube as I push it down into the snowpack...it seems to work pretty well. I had one reading in April last year of 64" snow and 25" liquid. That's a ripe and moist snowpack. The 12" tool though I would only use for individual snow board readings on the mountain. Usually I get to the board prior to 12" or more accumulating on it unless its a bigger storm, but 90% of my twice daily readings are under 12". I figure I'll just test it out at home first and compare the results with the melting practice of getting LE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Thanks, PF. Given your winter work schedule, the 12" looks adequte unless something bombs during the overnight - happy thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yeah scott, They are quite accurate, They work really well for taking core samples to for LE When you guys take core samples, you do it off a snowboard and take the core with the larger, outter tube? Then melt and pour into the smaller tube? I figure if the dimensions are right for rain it would be the same for snow? You guys don't collect the snowfall in the gauge though do you? I would assume you collect on a snow board and then take a core with that gauge rather than letting the snow just fall into the gauge? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Mansfield's top hat this evening...beautiful weather today. Lower humidity and a breeze but still warming sunshine...perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 When you guys take core samples, you do it off a snowboard and take the core with the larger, outter tube? Then melt and pour into the smaller tube? I figure if the dimensions are right for rain it would be the same for snow? You guys don't collect the snowfall in the gauge though do you? I would assume you collect on a snow board and then take a core with that gauge rather than letting the snow just fall into the gauge? Yes, That is how i do it, I have a 5x5" piece of cardboard that i will slide it off onto, Then flip over off the snowboard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I think this stretch has worn out my humidity sensor. Still getting a dewpoint of 72. LCI is 64... not sure it's ever been off by that much except in the mornings before the dew dries out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 Yes, That is how i do it, I have a 5x5" piece of cardboard that i will slide it off onto, Then flip over off the snowboard Sweet, sounds really easy. Wish I had gotten a more exact gauge a while ago. I just never really had the desire to measure rainfall/liquid till this year for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Right as you turn on Rte 244 from Rte 5....that brook that runs along the road there was just roaring when we arrived on scene! I was with a FF that has been on dept 55 years and he said he has never seen water going across where it did. Went through there yesterday morning but that was before the downpours. I've never seen any issues there either other than people pulling out when I'm steaming down the hill and staying straight on 5, heh. A lot nicer this evening, that's for certain. Let's hope for a little break. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Anyone notice the forecast for low 50s tonight!? Kev might have something on one of the most humid stretches in a long time as I also noticed MVL hasn't had a min below 60F since June 22nd! That's 2.5 weeks in mountain valley that radiates well, that hasn't seen a temp below 60 sine June 22nd. Our last temp in the 30s was on June 20th. That's called flipping a switch...going from a low in the 30s, to 2.5 weeks of 60<.. We never go that long without getting into the 50s at least...and last July we had a grand total of 5 days with mins above 60...more days were spent with morning temps in the 40s than in the 60s last July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Anyone notice the forecast for low 50s tonight!? Kev might have something on one of the most humid stretches in a long time as I also noticed MVL hasn't had a min below 60F since June 22nd! That's 2.5 weeks in mountain valley that radiates well, that hasn't seen a temp below 60 sine June 22nd. Our last temp in the 30s was on June 20th. That's called flipping a switch...going from a low in the 30s, to 2.5 weeks of 60<.. We never go that long without getting into the 50s at least...and last July we had a grand total of 5 days with mins above 60...more days were spent with morning temps in the 40s than in the 60s last July. June was so much cooler than July... I went to the pocon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Anyone notice the forecast for low 50s tonight!? Kev might have something on one of the most humid stretches in a long time as I also noticed MVL hasn't had a min below 60F since June 22nd! That's 2.5 weeks in mountain valley that radiates well, that hasn't seen a temp below 60 sine June 22nd. Our last temp in the 30s was on June 20th. That's called flipping a switch...going from a low in the 30s, to 2.5 weeks of 60<.. We never go that long without getting into the 50s at least...and last July we had a grand total of 5 days with mins above 60...more days were spent with morning temps in the 40s than in the 60s last July. June was so much cooler than July... I went to the Poconos and it was 41F the first night. The last time I was there July 4th weekend it didn't get below 65F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Sweet, sounds really easy. Wish I had gotten a more exact gauge a while ago. I just never really had the desire to measure rainfall/liquid till this year for whatever reason. Probably because you have seen close to 20" in the last 3 mos and made you see the light ....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 There is currently no mention of precipitation in my entire zone forecast oh my god. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Beautiful night...already down to 65°. Summer is finally behaving how it should with 80/58 type days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Dews are back into the 50's where they should be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted July 12, 2013 Share Posted July 12, 2013 Down to 59.5°...ahhhh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Archived
This topic is now archived and is closed to further replies.