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The daily thunderstorm has arrived here on cue. Does anyone know how a wet summer like this usually correlates to the following winter? Does it dry out leaving us shafted on snow? Or is there no clear correlation? I am curious as of course I don't want to be chinced in my first season up here lol.

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Amazing how my streak of missing every shower continues. Nice line of heavy storms heading right towards me hits the NH line and just fizzles. Top soil is very dry here. Trying to keep my new hydroseeded lawn green but the grass is starting to die. My well just doesn't have the water to keep 2 acres moist.

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Top soil is very dry here. Trying to keep my new hydroseeded lawn green but the grass is starting to die. My well just doesn't have the water to keep 2 acres moist.

That blows my mind compared to the standing water on most lawns over here. Its like walking on a waterbed...squishy.

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That blows my mind compared to the standing water on most lawns over here. Its like walking on a waterbed...squishy.

A typical backyard in Stowe right now...it's not only the wealthy second home owners that have ponds in their yards now.

It's been so wet even the trees are turning purple, too.

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That blows my mind compared to the standing water on most lawns over here. Its like walking on a waterbed...squishy.

Powderfreak, the dodging of rain at my location the past 2 months is probably equal to every possible cell hitting your area. I don't keep good rainfall records, and by no means there is a drought or anything close to for my immediate area but the dodging of storms has been amazing this summer. I have not had one good T storm yet. I would not care but I spent over $4000 in hydroseeding on June 4th and it needs constant water to get established. Luckily we have had been in a cool weather regime and have had enough rain that Im okay. This is my last post complaining about lack of T storms, everyone is probably tired of my ranting about it!!!

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Powderfreak, the dodging of rain at my location the past 2 months is probably equal to every possible cell hitting your area. I don't keep good rainfall records, and by no means there is a drought or anything close to for my immediate area but the dodging of storms has been amazing this summer. I have not had one good T storm yet. I would not care but I spent over $4000 in hydroseeding on June 4th and it needs constant water to get established. Luckily we have had been in a cool weather regime and have had enough rain that Im okay. This is my last post complaining about lack of T storms, everyone is probably tired of my ranting about it!!!

You've had bad luck. My backyard is still waterlogged and there's water covering the entire basement. We've had over a foot of rain since 5/20.

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Looks like a little rain is on the way. Just enough to cool us down is fine by me. 74/72

We had our rain too early to really cool down...but at least dropped us into the low to mid 70s since 4pm. I've got 71/71 with fog. Widespread ground fog from the rain earlier.

Max/min today was 87/65, pretty much identical to yesterday.

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The daily thunderstorm has arrived here on cue. Does anyone know how a wet summer like this usually correlates to the following winter? Does it dry out leaving us shafted on snow? Or is there no clear correlation? I am curious as of course I don't want to be chinced in my first season up here lol.

There may not be a statistically verifiable correlation, but what I have seen is that in years of “drought” (in a relative sense of course, the idea of a real drought in New England is sort of a joke), the persistently drier regime ultimately cuts into snow totals.  Unfortunately, a wet calendar year doesn’t necessarily guarantee a snowy winter – we had 64.11” of liquid at our site in 2011, and 2011-2012 was our least snowy winter.  The weather pattern that is affecting us now is so different from what goes on in winter that I can’t think that there would be any relationship, but all things being equal, continued, plentiful moisture is good news up here for snow.  Most of what falls in the winter up here is snow, especially for the mountains, so being in the pipeline is good, much better than when persistent high pressure just seems to want to be in charge.

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Not a drop in Montpelier today.  Just watched the storms roll off to our north and south.   I really look forward to the late afternoon storms in this pattern to cool things off but no joy today.  This is the last house I buy with casement windows.  Great for average summer temps/humidity as they really let the air in to circulate.  Buying an A/C for casement windows?  Nothing less that $600 a pop for a decent BTU...and I'd need two at least.  Almost ready to pull the trigger this summer.  Closest I've come in 11 years.  I left Florida in 1998 to escape this crap.  Gee, is it safe to assume that that Kevin dude in the SNE forum getting "pants tents" over these ridiculous dews has A/C??

 

Ok, I've vented...I feel better now...

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Mercifully, we haven't had any flooding right around here (Leb would be the closest and I know a few people who live in the part of town that took it on the chin the other day) but still it just rains every single day....sometimes several times.

 

Another 0.59" yesterday, most of it falling in a rouge late morning cell/downpour that just couldn't seem to miss here.  Had some more light rain again in the evening and overnight to make sure the swamp stayed in place overnight, which it did.

 

I'd seen the pics from Leb that PF posted but not the ones from over in Granville--man, that area is cursed.  It's a total magnet for storms and flooding.  The terrain there is very condusive for flash flooding and for some reasons, storms love to track right over that area and sit there for a spell...

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I noticed J.Spin is now over 11" in the past 13 days. That's absolutely incredible to me.

In Stowe we are at 7.6" based on the village CoCoRAHS for that same 13 day period. Still averaging over 1/2" per day for two weeks straight, but J.Spin's averaging close to 1"/day for almost two weeks is nuts. Absolutely nuts.

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Yesterday was our driest day of this stretch, with just 0.15” of liquid in the gauge this morning. It did push the rainfall for the year past 30” though. This period of daily downpours has actually been good for revealing any spots on the property where the drainage is weak – to mitigate washouts in one area, we just moved a bunch of 100-lb boulders from the rock pile to one of our culvert areas yesterday, so that zone is way overbuilt and should hold up to some strong abuse. Since our land is mostly sloped and drains well, it’s not so much the total amount of rainfall, but its intensity that poses the challenges. When rainfall rates get over 2-3”/hr for more than 20 minutes or so, it starts to overwhelm the capacity of the 8” culverts installed here.

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I see that PWM crushed the record for high minimum temp for 7/5. 73F ... 5 degrees warmer than the old record.

When they recorded a 74 minimum in August 1988, PWM set a new standard for warmest daily low. I think that still holds 1st place; if so, yesterday was mighty close to equaling it.

It was also my 1st rain-free day since 6/21. A sizable TS passed just to my south about 6 PM and a smaller one just to the north - echoes overhead but I think the SW winds helped keep my barbecue dry.

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When they recorded a 74 minimum in August 1988, PWM set a new standard for warmest daily low. I think that still holds 1st place; if so, yesterday was mighty close to equaling it.

It was also my 1st rain-free day since 6/21. A sizable TS passed just to my south about 6 PM and a smaller one just to the north - echoes overhead but I think the SW winds helped keep my barbecue dry.

We missed out on a good TS yesterday, but Gray got hit pretty good. I could see the storm just sliding southeast then on the way to portland to pick up my wife you could see the cloud to ground lightening off in the distance. Low last nite was 72F. Funny as we had a couple wood stove shops come by lately to give us a quote on a woodstove install. Never too soon to think about burning wood.

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Yesterday was our driest day of this stretch, with just 0.15” of liquid in the gauge this morning. It did push the rainfall for the year past 30” though. This period of daily downpours has actually been good for revealing any spots on the property where the drainage is weak – to mitigate washouts in one area, we just moved a bunch of 100-lb boulders from the rock pile to one of our culvert areas yesterday, so that zone is way overbuilt and should hold up to some strong abuse. Since our land is mostly sloped and drains well, it’s not so much the total amount of rainfall, but its intensity that poses the challenges. When rainfall rates get over 2-3”/hr for more than 20 minutes or so, it starts to overwhelm the capacity of the 8” culverts installed here.

That's nuts. we've recorded only 12.6". We're not in the mtns, but still.

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