Mrs.J Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 We got an EF-0. Why downplay it. It was a long track tornado in populated areas and it was a significant weather event. It is what most here seem to covet. Action. I read the much greater risk was supposed to be well south of here. Fox5 is reporting a 17.3 mile path for the MoCo storm. Sure it skipped or may not have even lasted a mile in total but in the end there is a general path of destruction. The ground was saturated but there were also plenty of trees topped. My lawn furniture had never traveled farther. Fox5 said it started in southern Darnestown hoped 270 rode the ICC through South Olney and lifted in Burtonsville. I would like to see it on a map. I would like to see a map too. My husbands office is right along 270 in Rockville off of Shady Grove Rd. Going off your description above it went just north of his office, would explain to me why when the brunt of the storm was plowing through he told me that the rain stopped and it got really dark. Then his office got hit with hard driving rain again and his window started to leak. Then power went out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 sketch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 I adjusted the levels in photoshop a bit - this could just be rain but it's also possible this was it - pardon my horrible photoshop skills - I haven't used it since HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Could be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Could be it. Kind of wide for an EF-0 tho maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gymengineer Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 Look at the region bounded on the left by the center black line going down the screen and on the right by the black pole in the foreground, roughly where the sky brightens up. On the cell phone where the contrast is clearer, the left side of "it" is right along the center black line going down the screen. The right edge is where the darker shade ends, about a third of the way to the second vertical black line (the pole), narrowing down to about a quarter of that width. That's a pretty narrow width and would be less than or equal to the 150 yd maximum path width described by LWX. I really don't know if that's a shot of the tornado--- just saying there's a darker something that can be seen on the cell phone extending to the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 was it really a supercell anyway? they refer to it as that.. seemed to be more a mini bow/qlcs than a true supercell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kmlwx Posted June 15, 2013 Share Posted June 15, 2013 was it really a supercell anyway? they refer to it as that.. seemed to be more a mini bow/qlcs than a true supercell. You're right IMO. Looking at the radar data it really was never a separate entity from the north end of that bow when it was over WV. It just strengthened as it came into the metro area. Mini bow is probably a better classification then a supercell. The stuff that went near the Fredericksburg, VA area and into St. Mary's County looked much more supercellular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 I was part of the storm survey and observed several locations where trees were blown into clumps. There also was a window blown out on a revoling door at the county office building. Once I get the data properly mapped, I will work on publishing the finished product here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 You're right IMO. Looking at the radar data it really was never a separate entity from the north end of that bow when it was over WV. It just strengthened as it came into the metro area. Mini bow is probably a better classification then a supercell. The stuff that went near the Fredericksburg, VA area and into St. Mary's County looked much more supercellular. Here's a look at radar and supercell is definitely not the first thing that comes to mind when I see this: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 16, 2013 Share Posted June 16, 2013 It *might* have had supercell characteristics but it was part of a line in WV as the bow head then the line fell apart and it was sorta discrete looking for a bit. By the time it got tornado warned it was looking like a bow/qlcs again. So, am I do understand NWS did not survey the entire track themselves? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master of Disaster Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 It *might* have had supercell characteristics but it was part of a line in WV as the bow head then the line fell apart and it was sorta discrete looking for a bit. By the time it got tornado warned it was looking like a bow/qlcs again. So, am I do understand NWS did not survey the entire track themselves? I had a procedure Friday so I was not on the survey but I understand the very end of the track was surveyed by OEMHS staff and supported by pics of damage sent to the NWS team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 It *might* have had supercell characteristics but it was part of a line in WV as the bow head then the line fell apart and it was sorta discrete looking for a bit. By the time it got tornado warned it was looking like a bow/qlcs again. So, am I do understand NWS did not survey the entire track themselves? NWS survey approximately 1/4 of the track. The survey team was split between several other damage assessments and was quite busy. Montgomery County OEMHS (myself included) surveyed the rest, taking detailed spatial information, damage pictures and notes on the orientation of damage. This information was then transposed into a map and forwarded the information to the NWS. I should note that we were dodging media all day so this was a strenuous process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted June 17, 2013 Share Posted June 17, 2013 Can you share the map, Matt? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 Can you share the map, Matt? I should be able to, but let me check with the boss. I won't be back in the office until this Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 That's fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 NWS survey approximately 1/4 of the track. The survey team was split between several other damage assessments and was quite busy. Montgomery County OEMHS (myself included) surveyed the rest, taking detailed spatial information, damage pictures and notes on the orientation of damage. This information was then transposed into a map and forwarded the information to the NWS. I should note that we were dodging media all day so this was a strenuous process. I wonder how common a practice that is. Not that I doubt it for the reasons noted but given that a 17+ mi path is fairly rare around here you'd think NWS would be more rigorous to verify it themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 I wonder how common a practice that is. Not that I doubt it for the reasons noted but given that a 17+ mi path is fairly rare around here you'd think NWS would be more rigorous to verify it themselves. NWS Sterling has been stretched thin recently. They are part of a national test bed for OEM Mets and their entire crew was deployed to MD, DC, VA state ops centers. MoCo just pitched in to help is all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isohume Posted June 18, 2013 Share Posted June 18, 2013 NWS survey approximately 1/4 of the track. The survey team was split between several other damage assessments and was quite busy. Montgomery County OEMHS (myself included) surveyed the rest, taking detailed spatial information, damage pictures and notes on the orientation of damage. This information was then transposed into a map and forwarded the information to the NWS. I should note that we were dodging media all day so this was a strenuous process. Lucky you. We don't have that option. If they want to come along, which they always do, we can't say no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 19, 2013 Share Posted June 19, 2013 Lucky you. We don't have that option. If they want to come along, which they always do, we can't say no. Well we really can't say no either, it's poor press. But after about 10 or so houses they give up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eskimo Joe Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Does anybody have radar screenshots from when the tornado was going through Montgomery County? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 2 long tracked EF-0's in MD... kinda odd... one 14 miles and the other 18 miles... both around the same time too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted June 20, 2013 Share Posted June 20, 2013 Only in MD are 14 and 18 mile tracks "long track" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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