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Well...Andy, You seem to be a knowledgeable fellow, I have followed your posts in the past.  However, I've been following Greg Fishel - a highly respected meteorologist in the weather community since 1980.  That is through all of the severe weather, all of the historic snowstorms, and hurricanes that have hit North Carolina.  He has been on the money many more times than not.  If he saw debris and reported it on air and explained it, then it was there.  I am quite surprised that you would resort to name calling, perhaps I shouldn't have been.

 

What? You initiated the hostility with the red-tag comment.

 

I'm sure he is a good met, but exercising caution in a bit of a messy storm situation like that is probably the best bet. The storm really didn't have an impressive velocity signature either, which would be something to look for when trying to determine whether it really was a debris ball and there was no evidence of substantial debris on any of the dual pol products, despite the short lived rain wrapped tornado that was eventually reported.

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Look, I have no dog in this fight, but I do know (from observation of his posts) that andyhb knows his stuff when it comes to severe weather.  I'll give him an honorary "red tag" when it comes to severe weather (not that my opinion is something anyone necessarily cares about, though!).

It's no fight Calc . I know Andy knows his stuff I've read plenty of his posts, but this is Greg's back yard and he definitely knows his. I believe both he and Mike Maze saw what they said they did on the radar. The point is moot anyway. It became a tornado shortly thereafter.

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What? You initiated the hostility with the red-tag comment.

 

I'm sure he is a good met, but exercising caution in a bit of a messy storm situation like that is probably the best bet. The storm really didn't have an impressive velocity signature either, which would be something to look for when trying to determine whether it really was a debris ball and there was no evidence of substantial debris on any of the dual pol products, despite the short lived rain wrapped tornado that was eventually reported.

I believe they were using the term nonmeteorological reflection indicating  debris. Why would you not want to tell people that?

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I broke one of my molars and I really hate dentists :angry:  I'm no longer in pain thanks to a vicodin and a glass of wine :wub:

 

 I hope your mouth feels better soon. My painful fractured (at the root) tooth was pulled a month back.

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Calling all moles, calling all moles,

 

 After a much deserved break that Tony granted you for your nearly miraculous job of keeping away the 92's at KATL, I wanted to just give you a headsup that your services MAY be needed once again for ~6/26-28 (next Wed-Fri). I'll update you on this potential need as we get closer to that period. The 12Z Goofy per MeteoStar has highs of 91, 92, and 92, respectively. So, your anti-92 talents may come in handy then. Just to remind the humans, MeteoStar had highs of 93 at KATL on 6/12 and 6/13 on multiple Goofy runs, including the very latest runs for those days, and the highs somehow turned out to be 91 on both days! I think that the wet soils had something to do with it, but we all know that Tony's fury critters were the not so secret necessary ingredient in actually getting the job done. There has not been one day over 96 at KATL in any summer since 1908 when the highest as of 6/30 was 91 or lower. That covers a respectable 16 years when it didn't reach at least 92 by 6/30. In contrast, nearly half of all years with 92+ by 6/30 had over 96 after 6/30. So, there is a pretty nice correlation. That's why they were awarded an all expenses paid vacation for 10 to the beach for ice cream with yours truly. (I think they decided to come in July.)

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I don't know man, they've been packing surf boards, and tropical print jams, and everything smells of coconut butter.  I think they may be headed over pretty soon.  They want to get there to work on the hurricane for  the 2nd.  I've told them what Meteostar has been saying about 90s, but they are two busy looking for beach buckets and shovels.  This is important so I'll look for the buggy whip.  I've enjoyed this cool spring/summer too much to let it go now!!  I'm hoping for snow in July to tell me the ice age has begun :)  And I've been watching Katla cam....  T

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Apparently there was a 2.1 M earthquake 8 miles SSW of Kinston at 7:04 this am, I cant remember there ever being a "earthquake" centered in this part of the state, I guess there have been other really weak ones but its been a long time since they occurred. I dont think more than a handful near the center felt this one. The only one felt over the entire area in living memory is the Va 6.0 in Aug 2011. 

 

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/se062413a#summary

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Apparently there was a 2.1 M earthquake 8 miles SSW of Kinston at 7:04 this am, I cant remember there ever being a "earthquake" centered in this part of the state, I guess there have been other really weak ones but its been a long time since they occurred. I dont think more than a handful near the center felt this one. The only one felt over the entire area in living memory is the Va 6.0 in Aug 2011. 

 

http://earthquake.usgs.gov/earthquakes/eventpage/se062413a#summary

 

I drive through Mineral Va.about once a month. They just finished repairing the last of the chimneys damaged in that earthquake last month.

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Looks like we'll be getting some of the rain that's currently in AL. PW's up to about 1.8" here now. I went out to get some lunch and it's so humid, the sky weeps. :)

convection in southwest GA robbed us. The storms in AL vanished faster than a fart in the wind once they moved north of the stuff in SW GA.

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So you want me to change the settings so it won't have the annoying things at the end of each post?

The Moles would like you to add your credit card number, and bank account info.  They have hired a limo to take them to Savannah , and they are very interested in buying a Haarp Torando Generator with FPlanes.  One blew up in Ala recently and they can get an excellent deal on it.  Something about wanting to reverse engineer it, and use the remaining parts to make a splendiferous sleet stormarator thingy....which I, for one, am all for!! T

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The Moles would like you to add your credit card number, and bank account info. They have hired a limo to take them to Savannah , and they are very interested in buying a Haarp Torando Generator with FPlanes. One blew up in Ala recently and they can get an excellent deal on it. Something about wanting to reverse engineer it, and use the remaining parts to make a splendiferous sleet stormarator thingy....which I, for one, am all for!! T

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The Moles would like you to add your credit card number, and bank account info.  They have hired a limo to take them to Savannah , and they are very interested in buying a Haarp Torando Generator with FPlanes.  One blew up in Ala recently and they can get an excellent deal on it.  Something about wanting to reverse engineer it, and use the remaining parts to make a splendiferous sleet stormarator thingy....which I, for one, am all for!! T

 

Tony,

 Uh oh! The moles are confused. They forgot that I've already made and paid for roundtrip train reservations for them (in July). They told me they had never taken a train and were very excited. Also, Amtrak caters to moles. So, the moles won't need MetalMan's credit card for the transportation expense to Savannah. I plan to pick them up at the Savannah train station and take them to the beach. My car can fit up to 15 moles comfortably although I've never taken more than 13 at a time. (You wouldn't know those 13 moles.) My understanding is that there are ten moles coming...so they'll have plenty of claw room

 

 Tony, I need your opinion about something. I had been thinking of surprising them with some bonus pre-beach ice cream in the car for the ride to the beach. However, I'm worried they'll make a mess. Would you surprise them with ice cream in the car or would you wait for the beach, which is when they're expecting it? Maybe they'd be better off sleeping during the ride to the beach...it is about 35 minutes from the station in good traffic. Please let me know your opinion!

 

 By the way, I'm now in Savannah scouting things out for the big mole visit. I'm trying to arrange for the mayor to present them the ceremonial key to the city, a great honor usually reserved for humans and dogs. It is too bad Savannah doesn't have an underground like Atlanta. :(

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Yup, you are right.  They just got the limo to take them to the station.  They had to get one with a trailer to carry all their accouterments.

As far as the ride to the beach, I'd say put some plastic sheeting in the back seat, and a couple of 5 gal buckets of nice loam, and a gallon of worm flavored ice cream, and they'll be fine.  Get the ice cream with the grub bits!

As for the key to the city...that's great....as long as it doesn't actually open anything...these guys are renowned kleptomoleacs, and will take anything not tied down.  They like shiny things, which is odd since they are blind.

  They've got their work cut out for them if they are going to get me some rain...only a few tenths in the last 3 days, get a hurricane by the 2nd, and stop the temps at 91 or below, for the rest of the month.  They need to get busy!!  They've spent far too much time lately in my secret underground sled workshop with the groupies and a vat of fermented cricket juice.  Oh, well, they'll be your problem soon:)  You're a fine fellow, Larry, to take this all on.  As I said before, I hope you like the night life!!  And don't let them anywhere near a wet moleskin contest!!! Tony

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Yup, you are right.  They just got the limo to take them to the station.  They had to get one with a trailer to carry all their accouterments.

As far as the ride to the beach, I'd say put some plastic sheeting in the back seat, and a couple of 5 gal buckets of nice loam, and a gallon of worm flavored ice cream, and they'll be fine.  Get the ice cream with the grub bits!

As for the key to the city...that's great....as long as it doesn't actually open anything...these guys are renowned kleptomoleacs, and will take anything not tied down.  They like shiny things, which is odd since they are blind.

  They've got their work cut out for them if they are going to get me some rain...only a few tenths in the last 3 days, get a hurricane by the 2nd, and stop the temps at 91 or below, for the rest of the month.  They need to get busy!!  They've spent far too much time lately in my secret underground sled workshop with the groupies and a vat of fermented cricket juice.  Oh, well, they'll be your problem soon:)  You're a fine fellow, Larry, to take this all on.  As I said before, I hope you like the night life!!  And don't let them anywhere near a wet moleskin contest!!! Tony

 

Tony,

 We may have a problem. Today's 6Z GFS per MeteoStar has a friggin 94 at KATL for Friday 6/28 and an 850 near +21.5 C! Also, there's no rain and cloudcover has been lowered. So, the moles may be needed then more than ever to prevent a 92+. This is a potentially serious situation. I'm worried because their newly acquired fame may be getting to them.

 

 On top of this, I was just checking out the car here in Savannah that I was planning to use to pick the moles up from the train station. This is not the one I normally drive. The car to which I'm referring is older and mole proof. You won't believe what happened. The car had been sitting for several weeks and wouldn't start. So, I needed to jump it. When I pulled up the hood after unlatching it, all of the sudden there were a bunch of wasps flying within two feet of my face. What came next was an impression of Jesse Owens that I never knew I could do! Holy sheet, I ran fast. It was pure reflex. Fortunately, I didn't get stung and don't think I was actually attacked. So, I'm counting my blessings. I've never seen or heard of anything like that! I've got a bug squad, which will be in full protective gear, coming tomorrow morning to get rid of them and any nest that is found. They realize the importance of getting that car ready for the moles. If they're not successful, I may take you up on your offer of a limo from you all of the way to the beach. I hope that isn't necessary as they were so looking forward to the train. I'll keep you posted. 

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So this is where it went.

 

...EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM PDT /11 AM MST/ FRIDAY TO 8 PM PDT /8 PM MST/ MONDAY FOR ELEVATIONS BELOW 6000 FEET...

THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE IN LAS VEGAS HAS ISSUED AN EXCESSIVE HEAT WARNING FOR PORTIONS OF SOUTHERN NEVADA...SOUTHEAST CALIFORNIA AND NORTHWEST ARIZONA FOR ELEVATIONS BELOW 6000 FEET...WHICH IS IN EFFECT FROM 11 AM PDT /11 AM MST/ FRIDAY TO 8 PM PDT /8 PM MST/ MONDAY.

THE EXCESSIVE HEAT WATCH IS NO LONGER IN EFFECT.

* EXPECTED HIGH TEMPERATURES: LAS VEGAS (MCCARRAN INTERNATIONAL AIRPORT) 114 TO 117...MESQUITE AND THE COLORADO RIVER VALLEY 118 TO 125...PAHRUMP 111 TO 114...BARSTOW 114 TO 118...MORONGO BASIN 110 TO 115...KINGMAN 108 TO 112...BISHOP 106 TO 108...CALIENTE 105 TO 108...AND DEATH VALLEY 126 TO 129.

* TIMING: AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF EXCESSIVELY HOT TEMPERATURES ARE EXPECTED FRIDAY THROUGH MONDAY. LITTLE RELIEF IS EXPECTED AT NIGHT...ESPECIALLY IN URBAN AREAS SUCH AS THE LAS VEGAS VALLEY WHERE LOW TEMPERATURES NEAR THE STRIP AND DOWNTOWN MAY NOT DROP BELOW 90 DEGREES.

* GREATEST IMPACTS: CHILDREN...THE ELDERLY...AND PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC AILMENTS ARE THE MOST SUSCEPTIBLE TO HEAT-RELATED ILLNESS. HEAT EXHAUSTION...CRAMPS...OR IN EXTREME CASES HEAT STROKE CAN RESULT FROM PROLONGED EXPOSURE TO THESE CONDITIONS. FRIENDS... RELATIVES AND NEIGHBORS SHOULD CHECK ON PEOPLE WHO MAY BE AT RISK.

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