Bostonseminole Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Showery and humid. Rain and low 70s is muggy. yuck.. either way the rain sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 That is 100 times better than the 50's and rain that was being tossed around for this over the weekend How is rain and 70F that much better than rain at 58F? You still can't do anything outside... I don't think it really matters to anyone what the temperature is if its raining. Aside from spinning it to being a humid rainstorm that you are fine with, other than a slightly less humid rainstorm which apparently would be the worst thing in the world lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2Otown_WX Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 ecmwf.int offers the 500mb and 850 maps for free. They don't have the height anomalies though which is a bummer. on their website and other places. I am not alone in thinking all this. I just saw there is an OT topic on it. Apprently no mods knew about it. The times they are a changin. But if you look around you can find all model data free, just know where to look after 23 years of doing it. Thanks guys. It's too bad Alan has a paysite now. His graphics were very user-friendly, much more so than the ecmwf site. I guess I will just have to decide if it's worth subscribing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Link? Are you looking for a link to the things calling for 50s and rain? There were weather progs showing 2m temps in the 50s with rain...they were posted further back in the thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bostonseminole Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 How is rain and 70F that much better than rain at 58F? You still can't do anything outside... I don't think it really matters to anyone what the temperature is if its raining. Aside from spinning it to being a humid rainstorm that you are fine with, other than a slightly less humid rainstorm which apparently would be the worst thing in the world lol. glad I was not the only one thinking about.. rain is rain..sure 50's rain is not as pleasant but you are screwed either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 glad I was not the only one thinking about.. rain is rain..sure 50's rain is not as pleasant but you are screwed either way. Yeah if its a rainy weekend... its a rainy weekend. Its not like it becomes this really nice weekend all the sudden because the Td is 64F in rain rather than 55F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 How is rain and 70F that much better than rain at 58F? You still can't do anything outside... I don't think it really matters to anyone what the temperature is if its raining. Aside from spinning it to being a humid rainstorm that you are fine with, other than a slightly less humid rainstorm which apparently would be the worst thing in the world lol. LOl its a warmer rain, when you run out of your AC house into the AC car to go to the AC store you are warmer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 I totally understand Allans need but let's look at it this way. When this place started many of us ponied up to help keep it afloat. He on his own developed a model sites that ran off of AMWX servers that we as a community purchased. He now has instant access to a devoted customer base. I guess if he wanted to run a Site that was pay per view I would not be running my mouth. I hear you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Are you looking for a link to the things calling for 50s and rain? There were weather progs showing 2m temps in the 50s with rain...they were posted further back in the thread. Euro has low 60s and rain, not that it matters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 The idea is if its 50's and stratiform rain you are on cold side locked in raw NE Flow in summer. If its 72/70 it's muggy and there's probably breaks , peeks of sun and storms. One is much nicer than the other. ESP for those that have plans later in the day Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The idea is if its 50's and stratiform rain you are on cold side locked in raw NE Flow in summer. If its 72/70 it's muggy and there's probably breaks , peeks of sun and storms. One is much nicer than the other. ESP for those that have plans later in the day Saturday Last night's ECM kept you in the 50s with rain, though you did moderate up into the 60s on Saturday with rain...while the Pike north stayed pretty much in the 50s. Its a classic SWFE essentially... and ORH northward holds the cold better than CT. But this isn't a "warm rain" yet... especially if that low passes anywhere near you or SE of you like the 00z ECMWF had (in this frame its just south of Long Island). This is one of those cases in the winter where you'd be touting that there is no way you warm up with a low passing SE of you...no way at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Looks like Ginx is at Mitch's place in Lenox typing on his PC @BerkshireWx: Disappointed the AmWx model site is now pay-per-view. It was nice while it lasted as it was a good site for data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 euro is a serious rain issue for the interior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 This would be a toaster bath for Friday/Saturday... The 12z GGEM has like a winter-looking SWFE though instead of tracking the 0C H85 line in the winter, we are tracking the 10C line, lol. It does seem to be a pattern this spring so far... we get some nice stretches of mild weather, but we've also had some very winter-like synoptic systems roll through as well (like the winter nor'easter last weekend). This is no "showery" type stuff...this is just steady synoptic storm rain shield. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Euro is a disaster for Friday...Saturday is downpours but may try and quit late in the day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 euro is a serious rain issue for the interior.which day Phil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 The idea is if its 50's and stratiform rain you are on cold side locked in raw NE Flow in summer. If its 72/70 it's muggy and there's probably breaks , peeks of sun and storms. One is much nicer than the other. ESP for those that have plans later in the day Saturday either way, you are eating your hotdog inside someone's garage vs being outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 either way, you are eating your hotdog inside someone's garage vs being outside. Euro may salvage dinner time on Saturday...though not sure people will exactly be playing horseshoes in their front yard with the amoutn fo rain that falls Friday and Saturday morning/midday. Sultan signal for heavy rain is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Euro is a disaster for Friday...Saturday is downpours but may try and quit late in the day. Later Saturday afternoon/evening might end up ok....starting to mild up a little bit as the rain lifts north. But yeah looking pretty ugly from like noon Friday until at least early afternoon Saturday all over New England. I'm not sold on those 65-70F dew points some are thinking. Depends how far north that warm front gets. Doubt it gets north of the Pike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Later Saturday afternoon/evening might end up ok....starting to mild up a little bit as the rain lifts north. But yeah looking pretty ugly from like noon Friday until at least early afternoon Saturday all over New England. I'm not sold on those 65-70F dew points some are thinking. Its going to be tough to get 65-70F dewpoints when the ambient air temperature is below that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 either way, you are eating your hotdog inside someone's garage vs being outside. lol... but at least it feels a little muggy and damp in that garage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 That's not new. The email he sent is. I plan to buy in. what email? Awhile ago Allen asked if anyone was interested in being on how email last. That's how I learned of the subscription service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Looking at the 12z operation Euro.. the 50,000 foot perspective is that it should transport some hefty theta-e up along the eastern Seaboard. It's not exactly a new idea, either, of foisting a GOM TC or hybrid type low ...rocketing it up the baroclinic axis, either as a transitioning wave or immediately astride the axis on the eastern side. Either way, that type of transport usually brings a pocket of high latent heat N. Could be a DP spike as the low makes it's closest pass, and after several hours of [probably] sick rain rates. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 classic heavy rain setup... blocking high to the NE with southerly flow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Looking at the 12z operation Euro.. the 50,000 foot perspective is that it should transport some hefty theta-e up along the eastern Seaboard. It's not exactly a new idea, either, of foisting a GOM TC or hybrid type low ...rocketing it up the baroclinic axis, either as a transitioning wave or immediately astride the axis on the eastern side. Either way, that type of transport usually brings a pocket of high latent heat N. Could be a DP spike as the low makes it's closest pass, and after several hours of [probably] sick rain rates. has a bit of a "PRE" look too. verbatim it's dumping 4"+ on a big area. if that set-up verified...you could probably double that number in spots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Looking at the 12z operation Euro.. the 50,000 foot perspective is that it should transport some hefty theta-e up along the eastern Seaboard. It's not exactly a new idea, either, of foisting a GOM TC or hybrid type low ...rocketing it up the baroclinic axis, either as a transitioning wave or immediately astride the axis on the eastern side. Either way, that type of transport usually brings a pocket of high latent heat N. Could be a DP spike as the low makes it's closest pass, and after several hours of [probably] sick rain rates. So are folks in error to think this thing brings relatively high dewpoint air of mid- upper 60's with it on strong SE flow on Saturday? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 has a bit of a "PRE" look too. verbatim it's dumping 4"+ on a big area. if that set-up verified...you could probably double that number in spots. actually should correct that...it's 3"+ on a huge area...4+ confined to southern half of NH and looks like a little weenie 5" spot too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 actually should correct that...it's 3"+ on a huge area...4+ confined to southern half of NH and looks like a little weenie 5" spot too. all of new england except the cape is 2+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted June 3, 2013 Share Posted June 3, 2013 Mild humid air in June can have some high pwats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted June 3, 2013 Author Share Posted June 3, 2013 Mild humid air in June can have some high pwats.Maybe you and I are misreading? Some are saying its a cold rain it seems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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