CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 And MAV has 90F, lol. Yeah GFS too low...unless somehow a seabreeze develops, but I think it holds off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Lol. Love it. Our dews are the same!! No more arguing FTW. What a great stretch of deep summer wx Subtract 5F. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Subtract 5F.Nope. Legit and verified by a met FTW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Nope. Legit and verified by a met FTW Here we go. Enjoy inflated measurements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Here we go. Enjoy inflated measurements. Its almost as if he never read the entire informative discussion on this last week. Though he did go to bed after only the first few posts, so I guess we can cut him some slack on being ignorant to the rest of the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ApacheTrout Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 How is deep summer wrong? 90s and humid with storms isn't summer? well, deep summer is a time period that you get once you are actually in summer. By your logic of using weather conditions, the Adirondacks just entered and escaped deep winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Here we go. Enjoy inflated measurements.enjoy deflated measurements at airport tarmacs where folks don't live Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 well, deep summer is a time period that you get once you are actually in summer. By your logic of using weather conditions, the Adirondacks just entered and escaped deep winter.Reading comprehension struggle. Deep summer means deep summer conditions, not late July Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Back to deep Spring next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 I'd warn that if that system develops in the Gulf and either inland up coast or SE US that the cooling next week may not be what is being advertised . If the TS happens , it would help to pump up that ridge and higher heights which would shunt some of the cooling north and instead of a broad trough digging SE , you're left with more of a quick in and out east moving Trof where much of the cooling stays north. Something to watch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 enjoy deflated measurements at airport tarmacs where folks don't live Yeah I think you're still missing the point that a lot of us use what is at the airports as a barometer for how humid it "feels" out. We've all grown up watching dew points at the ASOS and official sites, so whether one is inflated or one is deflated or whatever, most of us relate better to what the ASOS-style dews are. Those dews may have very well been higher where we live for our entire lives, but it still doesn't change the association/relationship between what you think/feel between 55, 60, 65, 70 degree dews at the ASOS. I know when the local ASOS goes to 60F that it starts to feel humid...and when it hits 65F< that it is very humid out. Whether my backyard is in the low 70s at that point doesn't really matter because I'm relating to what the local ASOS shows...if that makes sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah I think you're still missing the point that a lot of us use what is at the airports as a barometer for how humid it "feels" out. We've all grown up watching dew points at the ASOS and official sites, so whether one is inflated or one is deflated or whatever, most of us relate better to what the ASOS-style dews are. Those dews may have very well been higher where we live for our entire lives, but it still doesn't change the association/relationship between what you think/feel between 55, 60, 65, 70 degree dews at the ASOS. I know when the local ASOS goes to 60F that it starts to feel humid...and when it hits 65F< that it is very humid out. Whether my backyard is in the low 70s at that point doesn't really matter because I'm relating to what the local ASOS shows...if that makes sense. We already went through this last week. He's obviously not going to acknowledge context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah I think you're still missing the point that a lot of us use what is at the airports as a barometer for how humid it "feels" out. We've all grown up watching dew points at the ASOS and official sites, so whether one is inflated or one is deflated or whatever, most of us relate better to what the ASOS-style dews are. Those dews may have very well been higher where we live for our entire lives, but it still doesn't change the association/relationship between what you think/feel between 55, 60, 65, 70 degree dews at the ASOS. I know when the local ASOS goes to 60F that it starts to feel humid...and when it hits 65F< that it is very humid out. Whether my backyard is in the low 70s at that point doesn't really matter because I'm relating to what the local ASOS shows...if that makes sense. The end result is the dews are a product of their enviro. They are real readings at the home stations just as they are real on the tarmacs. Where there's more foliage etc they are going to be higher and vice versa. Everyone except Will had admitted that thankfully and most have moved on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 The end result is the dews are a product of their enviro. They are real readings at the home stations just as they are real on the tarmacs. Where there's more foliage etc they are going to be higher and vice versa. Everyone except Will had admitted that thankfully and most have moved on Well at least we have confirmed that you indeed never read or processed the discussion we had last week on this topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allsnow Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Back to deep Spring next week. Cooler and wetter? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Well at least we have confirmed that you indeed never read or processed the discussion we had last week on this topic.Youre typically astute and can follow along. But you've struggled on this one from day one. Hopefully it'll dawn on you soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Back to deep Spring next week. Yeah. We go from mid/upper 80s the next two days, to mid 70s on Sunday...then do 60s/40s Mon-Wed. Deep return to spring. Sunday: Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Not as warm with highs in the mid 70s. Chance of rain 60 percent. Sunday Night: Showers likely. Lows in the upper 50s. Chance of rain 60 percent. Monday: Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in the upper 60s. Monday Night: Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. Tuesday And Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 60s. Lows in the mid 40s. Wednesday: Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah. We go from mid/upper 80s the next two days, to mid 70s on Sunday...then do 60s/40s Mon-Wed. Deep return to spring. Sunday: Showers likely with a chance of thunderstorms. Not as warm with highs in the mid 70s. Chance of rain 60 percent. Sunday Night: Showers likely. Lows in the upper 50s. Chance of rain 60 percent. Monday: Cloudy with a 50 percent chance of showers. Highs in the upper 60s. Monday Night: Mostly cloudy. Lows in the upper 40s. Tuesday And Tuesday Night: Partly cloudy. Highs in the upper 60s. Lows in the mid 40s. Wednesday: Mostly sunny. Highs in the upper 60s. Watch the TS to see if that reduces cooling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Youre typically astute and can follow along. But you've struggled on this one from day one. Hopefully it'll dawn on you soon Considering the rest of us were on the same page in that discussion, I think you are a little confused. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Watch the TS to see if that reduces cooling Yeah I could see the trough dampening out some. Still going to get cooler though, especially up here near Canada haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CapturedNature Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Yeah I think you're still missing the point that a lot of us use what is at the airports as a barometer for how humid it "feels" out. We've all grown up watching dew points at the ASOS and official sites, so whether one is inflated or one is deflated or whatever, most of us relate better to what the ASOS-style dews are. Those dews may have very well been higher where we live for our entire lives, but it still doesn't change the association/relationship between what you think/feel between 55, 60, 65, 70 degree dews at the ASOS. I know when the local ASOS goes to 60F that it starts to feel humid...and when it hits 65F< that it is very humid out. Whether my backyard is in the low 70s at that point doesn't really matter because I'm relating to what the local ASOS shows...if that makes sense. Awesome point and description! Makes perfect sense to me. Imagine going back in time to when you only knew the dp at the airports and the TV Met said that they dp's were in the 60's you knew how that felt in your backyard, even though, unbeknownst to you that the dp was in the 70s in your backyard. Fast forward to a time when you know what the dp is in your backyard and you see a dp in the 70s in your backyard and you feel more humid than you would have felt. It seems we go through this discussion every summer and I don't think that anyone disagrees (from what I have seen) that a residential neighborhood is more humid (i.e. higher dp's) than an airport or even the "tarmac" of shopping malls and concrete jungles of cities. Yes, no one "lives" at the airport, but I think that a free-air measured dp there over grass near runways and parking lots is actually probably more representative of a mix between places where people live, work, shop and play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 BDL at 90 FTW. 92-93 today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 There is also the home station calibration and style of calibration that was touched on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Definitely a bit of a temp gradient with slightly cooler air to the NE near ORH and BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 Definitely a bit of a temp gradient with slightly cooler air to the NE near ORH and BOS. MET had 88F today for ORH. It had 93F at BOS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 MET had 88F today for ORH. It had 93F at BOS. You can see it in the 850s too. I thought my hood could hit 90, but we'll see. It's really torching down by TAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian5671 Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 88/69 here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 You can see it in the 850s too. I thought my hood could hit 90, but we'll see. It's really torching down by TAN. I'm going to see how the 2 MOS guidance tools perform...here's what they have for BOS/ORH for today, tomorrow, Saturday: BOS: MET: 93F, 96F, 89F MAV: 87F, 92F, 89F ORH: MET: 89F, 93F, 85F MAV: 88F, 91F, 89F I think MAV is going to win for day one, though both look pretty awful for ORH unless we can warm another 4 or 5 degrees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
free_man Posted May 30, 2013 Share Posted May 30, 2013 78F Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 30, 2013 Author Share Posted May 30, 2013 91 at HFD and BDL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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