yoda Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 1m RT @edpiotrowski: Oklahoma Medical Examiner’s Office says at least 51 now dead after Moore, OK tornado. Capital Weather Gang @capitalweather 1m MT @JoelAchenbach: OK ME spox: 'We’re sitting at 51 & phone calls just keep coming...It will keep climbing” http://wapo.st/10Ke69E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's just incredible for a city as tornado-hardened as Moore. Why weren't people in cellars/tornado shelters? People don't have those there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Suburbs and sprawling...only going to happen more often.Yup. Makes the talk about low deaths this past 12 mo kinda foolish. Huge advances in the science but totally a lack of tornadoes in cities. Wonder if it gives people a false sense of security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The biggest problem I have seen is if the tornado is not visable to the person, they don't take shelter even if the warning is for a large violent tornado kind of like I will only take shelter if I see the tornado which in that case is last minute prep which can lead to deadly consequences. So in breif use common sense and if you have a shelter please go to your shelter as soon as the warning is issued The biggest problem in this one was that sheltering above ground in a closet or bathroom, which is standard advice, in many cases wasn't good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jm1220 Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's also now more dead from the tornado than people died in NYC during Hurricane Sandy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 I'm guessing it will rival the Joplin Tornado that killed 158. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brettjrob Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Yup. Makes the talk about low deaths this past 12 mo kinda foolish. Huge advances in the science but totally a lack of tornadoes in cities. Wonder if it gives people a false sense of security. Honestly, I kind of suspected the early timing (~3pm) would help out, since Moore is pretty much the definition of a bedroom community. I have to think it would have been even worse at 7pm, all else being equal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NaoPos Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's just incredible for a city as tornado-hardened as Moore. Why weren't people in cellars/tornado shelters? People don't have those there? When all you see is slabs, there's no basements.... People were out and about working(time of day), kids leaving /still at school, rush hour starting..... We can ask/answer these later.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hazey Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Just from the devastation no reason to think death toll won't be 100+. Sad but the reality of a large violent tornado slicing through a populated area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SmokeEater Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 That's just incredible for a city as tornado-hardened as Moore. Why weren't people in cellars/tornado shelters? People don't have those there? This isn't about not having shelters, there's tons of in that area, it's simple as this. Some tornadoes are so strong, they're not survivable. This was one of those rare times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaggy Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Formed over pretty empty area.as well. Didn't really get going until Moore... Jim Cantore was in the area it first touched down near newcastle earlier and he was surprised to see trees debarked even that early in its life. It seems like this was a beast from the second it hit the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach McGuirk Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Yup. Makes the talk about low deaths this past 12 mo kinda foolish. Huge advances in the science but totally a lack of tornadoes in cities. Wonder if it gives people a false sense of security. Well, the more people you have in a country, the greater chance for a natural disaster to strike. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This isn't about not having shelters, there's tons of in that area, it's simple as this. Some tornadoes are so strong, they're not survivable. This was one of those rare times. I doubt anyone died inside an actual tornado shelter though, most of those are built to survive an EF5...but the typical "go inside a sturdy structure toward the interior" advice was not going to guarantee safety in a storm this strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ground Scouring Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 All children accounted for at one of the elementary schools (Briarwood) -- KFOR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoMo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 This isn't about not having shelters, there's tons of in that area, it's simple as this. Some tornadoes are so strong, they're not survivable. This was one of those rare times. yep, exactly. Unless you are underground or in some kind of hardened shelter... a bedroom closet or bathroom tub isn't going to save you. For many, a hardened shelter or basement is too expensive for the 'risk' of being in a strong tornado, which are relatively 'rare'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Guys, unreal video EXTREMELY close to the tornado. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Guys, unreal video EXTREMELY close to the tornado. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater The preceding was a presentation of Moron Studios. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Calderon Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Based on the tornado warning issuance at 240pm CT and radar that shows the circulation entering the city limits of Moore shortly after 310pm... that's 30+ mins of lead time. Yet some people on tv said they didn't know it was coming or had no warning. OUN has stated for days that tornadoes were possible so you have to either be stupid and/or disregard forecasts/news info telling the potential is there and then even more so the layers that you can readily have access to when it's underway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurricaneman Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Guys, unreal video EXTREMELY close to the tornado. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater This idiot is lucky he didnt get picked up an thrown a few miles away, thats why when you chase be very careful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The preceding was a presentation of Moron Studios. He was trying to reach his child... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DopplerWx Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 He was going to get his kid, probably wasn't worried about his own safety in that moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ridingtime Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Guys, unreal video EXTREMELY close to the tornado. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater Good Lord, that's one of the most incredible close up tornado videos I've ever seen. That guy has some serious guts and probably not much of a brain too haha. Is this in Moore? If so that's the first video I've seen of this tornado. Something tells me we'll be soon seeing a lot more videos of it too as time goes on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonbo Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Guys, unreal video EXTREMELY close to the tornado. https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?v=10200597107263068&set=vb.1021001701&type=2&theater That roar. Even with the windows up you could still hear it plain as day. yep, exactly. Unless you are underground or in some kind of hardened shelter... a bedroom closet or bathroom tub isn't going to save you. For many, a hardened shelter or basement is too expensive for the 'risk' of being in a strong tornado, which are relatively 'rare'. You're right JoMo. There's only so much that can be done in a tornado as destructive as this, even underground. I know I heard earlier from an interview that even in an underground shelter, 3 guys had to hold the door shut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 The preceding was a presentation of Moron Studios. He was trying to get to his kid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 He was trying to get to his kid.. Would certainly drive into the teeth of a tornado to get my kid too. Glad he is ok Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rjay Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Would certainly drive into the teeth of a tornado to get my kid too. Glad he is ok Totally understand ur sentiment but u dying wouldn't help the situation or ur child. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KSWx Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 He was trying to reach his child... I don't know, it's still pretty stupid. Getting that close could easily result in the child no longer having a father. I'm not a parent though, so I can't speak for what would be going through my mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jburns Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 He was trying to get to his kid.. Making him an orphan wouldn't help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxsniss Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 NBC News: fatalities confirmed at Plaza Towers ES, no further details given Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SchaumburgStormer Posted May 21, 2013 Share Posted May 21, 2013 Totally understand ur sentiment but u dying wouldn't help the situation or ur child. Understandable. Probably not something fully "processed" in the heat of the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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