Hoosier Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The time period draws closer and the signals appear to be robust/consistent enough to warrant a separate thread. A little early to hammer out specifics but given the instability/shear progs off of various models, would not be surprised if one or more of these days ends up with something higher than a slight risk in the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyhb Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 The time period draws closer and the signals appear to be robust/consistent enough to warrant a separate thread. A little early to hammer out specifics but given the instability/shear progs off of various models, would not be surprised if one or more of these days ends up with something higher than a slight risk in the region. I'd say Monday (despite the shading back of the D4, which looks to have been a bit premature based on the latest progs) likely holds the most significant potential for western parts of this sub-forum as the initial vort max responsible for the threat on Sunday rotates into the area. Tuesday and Wednesday hold potential too as the second s/w rotates around the base of the trough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'd say Monday (despite the shading back of the D4, which looks to have been a bit premature based on the latest progs) likely holds the most significant potential for western parts of this sub-forum as the initial vort max responsible for the threat on Sunday rotates into the area. Tuesday and Wednesday hold potential too as the second s/w rotates around the base of the trough. Early on Dr. Greg Forbes has the highest TOR:CON, 5, projected for N Illinois that day. I think surrounding areas are slightly lower, but I would think closer to the low (S and W Wisconsin, E Iowa) should have decent potential as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 I'm curious as to how Tuesday may play out in the Southern Lakes. 12z GFS has 1500-2500j/kg of MUCAPE depending on your location with fairly favourable shear profiles for some damaging winds and probably some large hail as well. What is everyone else thinking? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Only thing that would concern me for Eastern Iowa/Northern Illinois/Southern Wisconsin would be how the Sunday Night convection evolves, and how much of an Easterly component the wind comes off Lake Michigan which would likely reinforce any boundaries further South than what we are seeing. I'm thinking the SPC was kind of going with the same thinking and thus shaded the outlook area for Monday back somewhat. That of course will likely be adjusted much further, the threat for Monday, in the coming 24-48 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wisconsinwx Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Only thing that would concern me for Eastern Iowa/Northern Illinois/Southern Wisconsin would be how the Sunday Night convection evolves, and how much of an Easterly component the wind comes off Lake Michigan which would likely reinforce any boundaries further South than what we are seeing. I'm thinking the SPC was kind of going with the same thinking and thus shaded the outlook area for Monday back somewhat. That of course will likely be adjusted much further, the threat for Monday, in the coming 24-48 hours. However, the general forecast is for southerly winds on Sunday and I believe Monday. I certainly wouldn't be surprised if a lake breeze crops up on those days, but it seems it will be much less likely due to the moist S/SW flow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If a bunch of storms or a huge complex forms in northern iowa and rolls into wisconsin sunday night that may reinforce some type of outflow boundary or the warm front further South. I'm not confident in that since, yes, strong Southerly winds should be blowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 If a bunch of storms or a huge complex forms in northern iowa and rolls into wisconsin sunday night that may reinforce some type of outflow boundary or the warm front further South. I'm not confident in that since, yes, strong Southerly winds should be blowing. Setup looks highly conditional on Monday for our area. We've pretty much come to expect that though with these large-scale systems spawning outbreaks for days in the Plains before making it in here. Leftover crapvection and associated clouds routinely keep the DVN area out of the strike zone with these kind of setups. This setup looks very interesting though, and you never know how things will really evolve until the morning of, so it's definitely something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 Dewpoints really start taking off Sunday evening. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted May 17, 2013 Share Posted May 17, 2013 This just might be a decent for a supercell/hail threat in my area Monday afternoon with a warm front in the area, morning sunshine, and SSE flow setting up a lake breeze. High dewpoints and low LCLs too. Reminds me of June 21 2011. I have a feeling Tuesday will be cloudier with less instability but a stronger low level jet to mix down severe gusts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyclone77 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Looks like the SREF sig tor ingredients have been bumped back to a more conservative output compared to the overblown sig tor after they changed it last year. This is for sun afternoon. This would have been off the charts earlier this year and last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Looks like the SREF sig tor ingredients have been bumped back to a more conservative output compared to the overblown sig tor after they changed it last year. This is for sun afternoon. This would have been off the charts earlier this year and last year. Those thresholds look the same to me. It's just not that excited about significant tornadoes for whatever reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I think the situation Sunday Night bears a lot of watching... Monday could too reminds me of situations where one ingredient like shear may be great but instability is somewhat lacking...those can surprise. We'll see soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I think the situation Sunday Night bears a lot of watching... Monday could too reminds me of situations where one ingredient like shear may be great but instability is somewhat lacking...those can surprise. We'll see soon enough.Agreed, the h5 ridging overhead during the day will keep things capped and really allow instability to build. Then it looks like a lead shortwave arrives during the evening and midlevel flow increases to as much as 40-50 kt between 0-6z, along with a strengthening LLJ. Areas near the Mississippi in IA and IL could have an interesting night. Monday will depend on if potential morning convection and clouds clear out, because as you mentioned, deep layer shear won't be lacking. I haven't looked at the 00z NAM yet, but I thought the GFS and ECMWF looked better synoptically for the Monday threat in IA and IL than the earlier runs of the NAM. Particularly the Euro for nrn IL because it hinted at a secondary low over southern WI Monday PM that could keep surface winds more backed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 00z NAM continues what has been shown the past few cycles...a wind profile not exactly classic for supercell tornadoes. I still like how the GFS and Euro look from a purely chasing perspective, but I'll be glad to see any sort of active weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatrickSumner Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 GFS looking pretty "interesting" for GL and OV Tuesday night/Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 New day 2 has the slight risk getting into the sub forum with a moderate risk just to the west. DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0100 AM CDT SAT MAY 18 2013 VALID 191200Z - 201200Z ...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF ECNTRL OK...ERN KS AND WRN MO... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE GREAT PLAINS AND LOWER TO MID MO VALLEY... ...REGIONAL SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE SRN PLAINS...CNTRL PLAINS AND LOWER MO VALLEY... ...SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS/LOWER MO VALLEY... A NEGATIVELY-TILTED UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH WILL MOVE EWD INTO THE SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS ON SUNDAY AS A MID-LEVEL JET MOVES EWD THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE TROUGH. AT THE SFC...A LOW IS FORECAST TO DEEPEN AND MOVE NEWD FROM CNTRL KS INTO ERN NEB AS A COLD FRONT ADVANCES SEWD ACROSS THE ECNTRL KS AND CNTRL OK. SFC DEWPOINTS TO THE EAST OF THE FRONT SHOULD BE IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S F WITH MODERATE TO STRONG DESTABILIZATION LIKELY ACROSS THE MODERATE RISK AREA BY MID TO LATE AFTERNOON. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AROUND MIDDAY SHOW A CAPPING INVERSION IN PLACE ACROSS MUCH OF THE WARM SECTOR. THE MODELS WEAKEN THE CAP BY 21Z ALLOWING FOR CONVECTIVE INITIATION ALONG AND AHEAD OF THE FRONT. STORMS SHOULD FIRST INITIATE IN NRN AND CNTRL KS...QUICKLY EXPANDING SWD INTO NRN AND CNTRL OK. AS STORM COVERAGE INCREASES DURING THE EARLY EVENING...A SEVERE PRODUCING MCS MAY ORGANIZE ACROSS ERN KS AND ECNTRL OK...MOVE ESEWD ACROSS THE MODERATE RISK AREA. FORECAST SOUNDINGS BY 21Z SUNDAY AT TULSA...OKLAHOMA CITY AND KANSAS CITY SHOW STRONG INSTABILITY WITH MLCAPE VALUES OF 2500 TO 3500 J/KG. DEEP LAYER SHEAR IS FORECAST TO INCREASE DURING THE LATE AFTERNOON ACROSS THE MODERATE RISK AREA AS A MID-LEVEL JET MOVES INTO THE REGION FROM THE WEST. THIS COMBINED WITH 850 TO 500 MB LAPSE RATES EXCEEDING 8.0 C/KM SHOULD BE VERY FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS WITH LARGE HAIL. HAILSTONES OF GREATER THAN 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE MORE INTENSE SUPERCELLS. IN ADDITION...A LOW-LEVEL JET IS FORECAST TO BECOME FOCUSED BY EARLY SUNDAY EVENING FROM SW MO SWWD INTO ECNTRL OK. SUPERCELLS ON THE WRN EDGE OF THE LOW-LEVEL JET WILL HAVE A CHANCE TO BECOME TORNADIC WITH A CLUSTER OF TORNADOES POSSIBLE ACROSS THE MODERATE RISK AREA. THE GREATEST CHANCE FOR STRONG TORNADOES SHOULD EXIST ACROSS ECNTRL OK AND SE KS WHERE 0-3 KM STORM RELATIVE HELICITIES ARE FORECAST TO REACH 400 M2/S2 IN THE 00Z TO 03Z TIMEFRAME. DUE TO THE STRONG DEEP LAYER SHEAR...CELLS SHOULD REMAIN DISCRETE DURING MUCH OF THE EVENT. SUPERCELLS COULD ALSO PRODUCE SWATHS OF WIND DAMAGE. THE WIND DAMAGE THREAT COULD BECOME ENHANCED DURING THE EVENING IF A LINEAR MCS CAN ORGANIZE. ...MID-MO VALLEY/NRN PLAINS/UPPER MS VALLEY... SOUTH TO SOUTHWEST FLOW WILL BE IN PLACE ACROSS THE NCNTRL U.S. SUNDAY AS AN UPPER-LEVEL TROUGH MOVES INTO THE SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS. AT THE SFC...A LOW IS FORECAST TO DEEPEN AND MOVE NEWD INTO THE MID-MO VALLEY DURING THE DAY. A MODERATELY UNSTABLE AIRMASS SHOULD BE IN PLACE BY MID AFTERNOON TO THE EAST AND NORTHEAST OF THE LOW ACROSS ERN NEB...SERN SD...IA AND SRN MN WHERE SFC DEWPOINTS MAY REACH THE LOWER TO MID 60S F. THE AIRMASS SHOULD BE UNCAPPED ACROSS MUCH OF THE REGION ALLOWING FOR CONVECTIVE INITIATION TO TAKE PLACE EARLY IN THE DAY. THUNDERSTORMS COULD BE ONGOING DURING THE MORNING ACROSS IA AND MN ALONG WRN EDGE OF THE LOW-LEVEL JET WITH ADDITIONAL THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT TAKING PLACE BENEATH THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW EARLY SUNDAY AFTERNOON. SEVERAL CLUSTERS OF ORGANIZED THUNDERSTORMS APPEAR LIKELY TO PERSIST THROUGH THE AFTERNOON WITH MCS DEVELOPMENT POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE REGION BY EVENING. FORECAST SOUNDINGS AT OMAHA AND DES MOINES AT 21Z SHOW MODERATE INSTABILITY WITH MLCAPE VALUES IN THE 2000 TO 3000 J/KG RANGE. THIS COMBINED WITH 30 TO 40 KT OF 0-6 KM SHEAR SHOULD SUPPORT SUPERCELL DEVELOPMENT WITH A THREAT FOR LARGE HAIL. HAILSTONES OF GREATER THAN 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE MORE DOMINANT SUPERCELLS MAINLY IN SE NEB AND SRN IA WHERE INSTABILITY IS FORECAST TO BE THE GREATER THAN IN AREAS TO THE NORTH. A FEW TORNADOES MAY ALSO OCCUR WITH THE MORE INTENSE SUPERCELLS AS THE LOW-LEVEL JET STRENGTHENS EARLY SUNDAY EVENING. WIND DAMAGE WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH SUPERCELLS AND BOWING LINE-SEGMENTS ESPECIALLY IF AN MCS CAN ORGANIZE DURING THE EARLY EVENING. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Nice soundings for northern Illinois Monday evening: 00z NAM 00z GFS Good midlevel lapse rates, good directional and speed shear up to the midlevels, though there is some back/veer above H5. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Nice soundings for northern Illinois Monday evening: 00z NAM 00z GFS Good midlevel lapse rates, good directional and speed shear up to the midlevels, though there is some back/veer above H5. I'd say the back/veer above 500mb is pretty small especially on the NAM, still some spectacular soundings there with great MLCAPE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I'd say the back/veer above 500mb is pretty small especially on the NAM, still some spectacular soundings there with great MLCAPE. Agreed, figured I'd call attention to one minor negative aspect because otherwise they're very impressive soundings for this area. The limited back veer situation present actually improves on the NAM from 21-0z. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 New Day 3 DAY 3 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 0231 AM CDT SAT MAY 18 2013 VALID 201200Z - 211200Z ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF THE SRN PLAINS...CNTRL PLAINS...MID MS VALLEY...UPPER MS VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES REGION... ...REGIONAL SEVERE WEATHER EPISODE POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS INTO THE OZARKS MONDAY AFTERNOON AND EVENING... ...SRN AND CNTRL PLAINS/OZARK PLATEAU... AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW WILL REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS THE NRN AND CNTRL PLAINS ON MONDAY WITH SOUTHWEST FLOW LOCATED FROM THE SRN PLAINS INTO THE MID MS VALLEY. AT THE SFC...A LOW IS FORECAST TO MOVE NEWD ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS WITH DEWPOINTS SOUTH AND EAST OF THE LOW IN THE MID TO UPPER 60S F. A CAPPING INVERSION IN PLACE FOR MUCH OF THE DAY...SHOULD WEAKEN BY LATE AFTERNOON ALLOWING FOR ROBUST CONVECTIVE INITIATION. MODEL FORECASTS DEVELOP SEVERAL CLUSTERS OF THUNDERSTORMS LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON FROM THE SFC LOW NEAR THE RED RIVER NEWD INTO CNTRL AND ERN OK. THE MODELS APPEAR TO ORGANIZE AN MCS ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS AND MOVE THIS CONVECTIVE SYSTEM NEWD INTO THE OZARKS DURING THE EVENING. FORECAST SOUNDINGS IN SRN OK AND NEAR THE RED RIVER IN NORTH TX AT 00Z/TUE SHOW IMPRESSIVE THERMODYNAMIC AND SHEAR PROFILES WITH MLCAPE VALUES OF 2500 TO 3500 J/KG AND 0-6 KM SHEAR VALUES OF 45 TO 55 KT. THIS ENVIRONMENT SHOULD BE FAVORABLE FOR SUPERCELLS WITH LARGE HAIL. HAILSTONES OF GREATER THAN 2 INCHES IN DIAMETER WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH THE MORE DOMINANT SUPERCELLS. IN ADDITION...LOW-LEVEL HODOGRAPHS ALSO LOOK IMPRESSIVE WITH 0-3 KM STORM RELATIVE HELICITIES IN THE 400 TO 50O M2/S2 RANGE BY EARLY MONDAY EVENING. THIS SUGGESTS TORNADIC SUPERCELLS WILL BE POSSIBLE WITH A POTENTIAL FOR STRONG TORNADOES. IF MESOSCALE CONDITIONS COME TOGETHER AS THE MODELS SUGGEST...THEN A CLUSTER OF TORNADOES COULD OCCUR ACROSS PARTS OF THE SRN PLAINS LATE MONDAY AFTERNOON INTO THE EVENING. WIND DAMAGE WILL ALSO BE POSSIBLE WITH SUPERCELLS AND BOWING LINE-SEGMENTS. THE MAIN CONCERN ABOUT FORECASTING A SIGNIFICANT EVENT THIS FAR OUT...IS THAT MULTIPLE DAYS OF THUNDERSTORMS BETWEEN NOW AND MONDAY WILL LIKELY ALTER THE OUTCOME AND THAT THE SCENARIO WILL BE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT IS CURRENTLY PRESENTED BY THE MODELS. ...MID TO UPPER MS VALLEY/GREAT LAKES... AN UPPER-LEVEL LOW IS FORECAST TO REMAIN IN PLACE ACROSS THE NRN AND CNTRL PLAINS ON MONDAY AS A SHORTWAVE TROUGH ROTATES AROUND THE ERN SIDE OF THE UPPER-LEVEL LOW. THE SHORTWAVE TROUGH AND AN ASSOCIATED MID-LEVEL JET WILL HELP FOCUS CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT ACROSS THE MID TO UPPER MS VALLEY AND GREAT LAKES REGION MONDAY AFTERNOON. SFC DEWPOINTS ARE FORECAST TO BE IN THE LOWER TO MID 60S F ACROSS A BROAD CORRIDOR FROM THE MID MS VALLEY EXTENDING NEWD INTO THE LOWER OH VALLEY WHERE THE MODELS DEVELOP MODERATE INSTABILITY BY AFTERNOON. THIS COMBINED WITH MODERATE DEEP LAYER SHEAR PROFILES...ENHANCED BY THE MID-LEVEL JET...SHOULD SUPPORT SEVERE THUNDERSTORM DEVELOPMENT. THE SEVERE THREAT SHOULD DEVELOP ACROSS A BROAD AREA WHERE MESOSCALE FEATURES AND THE MAGNITUDE OF INSTABILITY WILL BECOME IMPORTANT FOR SEVERE THREAT COVERAGE. WIND DAMAGE AND LARGE HAIL APPEAR TO BE THE GREATEST THREATS AT THIS TIME BUT MUCH UNCERTAINTY EXISTS CONCERNING HOW THE EVENT WILL PLAY OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RCNYILWX Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 New Day 3 Beat me to it. I'd say this outlook was handled well, sig severe is possible even up here, but certainly more likely in the hatched 30% area, and as mentioned in the discussion, mesoscale details and lingering uncertainty need to be sorted out. Lots can change in 3 days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Beat me to it. I'd say this outlook was handled well, sig severe is possible even up here, but certainly more likely in the hatched 30% area, and as mentioned in the discussion, mesoscale details and lingering uncertainty need to be sorted out. Lots can change in 3 days. Very conditional this far north. But, hey, it's something to watch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoosier Posted May 18, 2013 Author Share Posted May 18, 2013 Agreed, figured I'd call attention to one minor negative aspect because otherwise they're very impressive soundings for this area. The limited back veer situation present actually improves on the NAM from 21-0z. I've seen some differing points of view on the whole veer-back-veer thing...I know it can be detrimental if it occurs below 500 mb but is it less critical if it happens above 500 mb? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stebo Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I've seen some differing points of view on the whole veer-back-veer thing...I know it can be detrimental if it occurs below 500 mb but is it less critical if it happens above 500 mb? This is usually what I go by unless the the change above 500mb is > 15 to 20 degrees in wind direction. Anything less than that I consider negligible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huronicane Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 12z GFS today gives some profiles for N.IL look reminiscent of ones you'll typically see in the Plains for tornado days 12z NAM, on the other hand, look more like a damaging wind sounding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowlover2 Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 New day 2 expands slight risk into most of western IL. DAY 2 CONVECTIVE OUTLOOK NWS STORM PREDICTION CENTER NORMAN OK 1209 PM CDT SAT MAY 18 2013 VALID 191200Z - 201200Z ...THERE IS A MDT RISK OF SVR TSTMS ACROSS PARTS OF KS/OK/WRN MO... ...THERE IS A SLGT RISK OF SVR TSTMS SURROUNDING THE MDT RISK FROM NCNTRL TX INTO SRN MN... ...REGIONAL SEVERE WEATHER OUTBREAK POSSIBLE ACROSS PARTS OF THE SRN PLAINS...CNTRL PLAINS AND LOWER MO VALLEY... ...SRN PLAINS TO LOWER MO VALLEY.... LATEST MODEL GUIDANCE CONTINUES TO SUGGEST A SIGNIFICANT MID LEVEL SPEED MAX WILL EVOLVE WITHIN THE BASE OF THE WRN U.S. TROUGH OVER THE SRN ROCKIES LATE DAY1...THEN EJECT ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS TOWARD WRN MO BY 20/00Z. THERE ARE MINOR DIFFERENCES AMONG THE 12Z NAM/GFS AND 00Z ECMWF...WITH THE NAM FAVORING A BIT MORE AGGRESSIVE SPEED MAX/HEIGHT FALLS ACROSS NERN OK INTO SWRN MO THAN THE OTHER GUIDANCE. IT/S NOT ENTIRELY CLEAR IF THE MORE DISPLACED NAM SPEED MAX IS CORRECT...IF SO THEN SIGNIFICANT SEVERE TSTM ACTIVITY COULD SPREAD EAST OF DEPICTED MDT RISK. FOR NOW WILL OPT FOR SOMEWHAT SLOWER GFS SOLUTION AS IT HAS BEEN VERY CONSISTENT REGARDING THE FORECAST HEIGHT FIELD/WIND SPEEDS ACROSS THE SRN PLAINS INTO WRN MO. GIVEN THIS SOLUTION...AT SUNRISE IT APPEARS SYNOPTIC FRONT WILL EXTEND FROM A SFC LOW OVER NCNTRL NEB...SWD ACROSS CNTRL KS INTO THE TX PANHANDLE. A DRYLINE IS EXPECTED TO INTERSECT THE COLD FRONT OVER SWRN KS...EXTENDING SSWWD INTO NWRN TX. EARLY MORNING CONVECTION WILL LIKELY BE CONFINED TO WARM ADVECTION ZONE ALONG THE NOSE OF THE LLJ ACROSS THE CNTRL PLAINS INTO THE MID MS VALLEY. SOUTH OF THIS ACTIVITY STRONG WARM SECTOR BOUNDARY LAYER HEATING IS EXPECTED DURING THE DAY...ESPECIALLY SOUTH OF I-70 CORRIDOR ACROSS KS/OK/TX. COMBINATION OF STRONG HEATING AND STRENGTHENING WLY FLOW ALOFT WILL ALLOW DRYLINE TO MIX TO A POSITION FROM CNTRL KS...SSWWD ACROSS SWRN OK INTO NWRN TX BY 21Z. IF HOWEVER THE NAM SOLUTION IS CORRECT THEN THE DRYLINE MAY MIX TO THE I-35 CORRIDOR BY LATE AFTERNOON. GIVEN THE EXPECTED INTENSE HEATING ALONG THE DRYLINE THERE IS AMPLE REASON TO BELIEVE DISCRETE SUPERCELL STRUCTURES WILL EVOLVE INITIALLY NORTH OF THE MID LEVEL JET CORE ACROSS KS...THEN SWD INTO OK. THIS MAY OCCUR BY 21Z OVER KS AND BY 20/00Z ACROSS OK TO NEAR THE RED RIVER. FORECAST SHEAR PROFILES STRONGLY FAVOR LONG-LIVED SUPERCELLS AND WHERE DEW POINTS HOLD IN THE UPPER 60S/LOWER 70S...TORNADOES CAN BE EXPECTED. GIVEN THE EXPECTED SHEAR/INSTABILITY THERE IS SUPPORT FOR STRONG TORNADOES. ADDITIONALLY...VERY LARGE HAIL SHOULD ACCOMPANY THIS ACTIVITY. MATURING COMPLEX OF STORMS SHOULD PROGRESS ACROSS KS/NERN OK INTO WRN MO WITH MORE SCATTERED ACTIVITY ACROSS CNTRL/SRN OK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OntarioChaser Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Some models are showing an interesting convective complex moving over L MI and S ON Monday evening through the night possibly riding the warm front. What are your guys thoughts on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Powerball Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 Some models are showing an interesting convective complex moving over L MI and S ON Monday evening through the night possibly riding the warm front. What are your guys thoughts on this? I noticed that. It appears the models try to develop an MCV and move it eastward. The NAM in particular has a nice squall line blasting through here late in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YHM Supercell Posted May 18, 2013 Share Posted May 18, 2013 I noticed that. It appears the models try to develop an MCV and move it eastward. The NAM in particular has a nice squall line blasting through here late in the afternoon. Would be nice. NAM also has some good instability represented by MUCAPE around 1500-2500j/kg and pretty favourable vertical shear profiles for some damaging winds. Will have to keep an eye on this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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