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The Mexican radar imagery isn't aligning the echoes with the landmasses properly.  This is not a vertical-tilt thing-- it's just a mistake.

 

 

Yeah, I'm now convinced that the radar is off.  While the location of the radar appears to be right, the entire frame appears to be rotated counter-clockwise about its origin from where it should be. 

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Yeah, I'm now convinced that the radar is off.  While the location of the radar appears to be right, the entire frame appears to be rotated counter-clockwise about its origin from where it should be. 

 

Yes, I shouldn't have said the radar was inaccurate; rather, I should have said the overlay is inaccurate. The 60º line from site should actually be 90º. So when you're following the line on radar, just consider that directly east of the site for reference. This thing is still clearly offshore and intensifying. Perhaps Barbara makes landfall above minimal hurricane strength.

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Barbara looked to have a really tight, organized core at LF with a stadium effect developing in the eye as it crossed the coast. I would say that suggests the LF intensity was a bit higher than 65 kt--perhaps even near-Cat. 2 (80 kt), like Humberto 2007 in the Atlantic, in intensity. The microwave scan presents a TC with an eye-wall structure strikingly similar to that of Jova 2011 at LF, which Josh chased. (I know.  :pimp: ) It's also quite minute, with 'cane-force winds extending 25 mi from the small center. Note that potent SE quadrant making LF, which is why I made the comparison between Barbara and Jova.

 

I'm impressed. What a *hawt* little micro-cane...I could almost mistake it for a full-blown major. Our easternmost landfalling 'cane in the EPAC is such a pretty sight, from a structural perspective.

 

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Data from automated station in the Chiapas coast (real-time):

Wind gust (km/h)

 

 

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Arghhhh...all the data from the stations near the landfall rolled back to May 20th...I couldn't download more graphics or the text data...I remember the pressure was rapidly falling and it was around 997mb near Tonala, right at the coast.

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Oh, I had a tab open with the text data  :pimp:

                       W direction            Wind speed   Gust        Temp                 Pressure
29/05/2013 15:15         112         108       20.50       33.90        24.5         100      1008.5         0.0
29/05/2013 15:30         109         109       19.30       32.10        24.0         100      1008.5         0.0
29/05/2013 15:45         102         102       17.10       41.30        23.7         100      1008.3         0.0
29/05/2013 16:00         104         101       23.60       38.50        23.6         100      1008.2         0.0
29/05/2013 16:15          89          98       14.90       32.70        23.4         100      1008.0         0.0
29/05/2013 16:30         103          73       21.10       37.90        23.4         100      1008.0         0.0
29/05/2013 16:45          98         106       17.80       40.20        23.5         100      1007.6         0.0
29/05/2013 17:00          92         104       15.80       30.40        23.4         100      1006.8         0.0
29/05/2013 17:15         106          99       23.00       39.00        23.5         100      1006.9         0.3
29/05/2013 17:30         109         106       28.20       54.60        23.3         100      1006.7         0.0
29/05/2013 17:45         108         109       26.90       45.40        23.0         100      1006.3         0.0
29/05/2013 18:00         103         111       24.60       47.10        23.0         100      1006.1         0.0
29/05/2013 18:15         101         101       28.30       48.20        22.9         100      1005.4         0.0
29/05/2013 18:30         100          98       31.30       54.60        23.1         100      1004.7         0.0
29/05/2013 18:45          94          92       34.50       55.70        23.1         100      1003.1         0.0
29/05/2013 19:00          95         104       34.50       63.20        23.2         100      1002.0         0.0
29/05/2013 19:15          96         104       37.30       66.10        23.1         100      1000.5         0.0
29/05/2013 19:30         101         110       42.40       77.00        22.9         100       999.1         0.0
29/05/2013 19:45         110         111       52.40       84.50        23.2         100       997.6         0.3
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Oh, I had a tab open with the text data  :pimp:

                       W direction            Wind speed   Gust        Temp                 Pressure
29/05/2013 15:15         112         108       20.50       33.90        24.5         100      1008.5         0.0
29/05/2013 15:30         109         109       19.30       32.10        24.0         100      1008.5         0.0
29/05/2013 15:45         102         102       17.10       41.30        23.7         100      1008.3         0.0
29/05/2013 16:00         104         101       23.60       38.50        23.6         100      1008.2         0.0
29/05/2013 16:15          89          98       14.90       32.70        23.4         100      1008.0         0.0
29/05/2013 16:30         103          73       21.10       37.90        23.4         100      1008.0         0.0
29/05/2013 16:45          98         106       17.80       40.20        23.5         100      1007.6         0.0
29/05/2013 17:00          92         104       15.80       30.40        23.4         100      1006.8         0.0
29/05/2013 17:15         106          99       23.00       39.00        23.5         100      1006.9         0.3
29/05/2013 17:30         109         106       28.20       54.60        23.3         100      1006.7         0.0
29/05/2013 17:45         108         109       26.90       45.40        23.0         100      1006.3         0.0
29/05/2013 18:00         103         111       24.60       47.10        23.0         100      1006.1         0.0
29/05/2013 18:15         101         101       28.30       48.20        22.9         100      1005.4         0.0
29/05/2013 18:30         100          98       31.30       54.60        23.1         100      1004.7         0.0
29/05/2013 18:45          94          92       34.50       55.70        23.1         100      1003.1         0.0
29/05/2013 19:00          95         104       34.50       63.20        23.2         100      1002.0         0.0
29/05/2013 19:15          96         104       37.30       66.10        23.1         100      1000.5         0.0
29/05/2013 19:30         101         110       42.40       77.00        22.9         100       999.1         0.0
29/05/2013 19:45         110         111       52.40       84.50        23.2         100       997.6         0.3

So was the maximum 52-kt ESE at 19:45 local time a one-minute value in MX too? Tonalá is just about 15 mi ENE of the landfall location, and the LF pressure was ~8 mb lower, so the pressure gradient was probably about 10 mb in 10 mi. Impressive!

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Barbara looked to have a really tight, organized core at LF with a stadium effect developing in the eye as it crossed the coast. I would say that suggests the LF intensity was a bit higher than 65 kt--perhaps even near-Cat. 2 (80 kt), like Humberto 2007 in the Atlantic, in intensity. The microwave scan presents a TC with an eye-wall structure strikingly similar to that of Jova 2011 at LF, which Josh chased. (I know.  :pimp: ) It's also quite minute, with 'cane-force winds extending 25 mi from the small center. Note that potent SE quadrant making LF, which is why I made the comparison between Barbara and Jova.

 

I'm impressed. What a *hawt* little micro-cane...I could almost mistake it for a full-blown major. Our easternmost landfalling 'cane in the EPAC is such a pretty sight, from a structural perspective.

 

screenshot20130529at429.png

 

201305291910noaa19xcolo.jpg

*Hawt shots for Josh*

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So was the maximum 52-kt ESE at 19:45 local time a one-minute value in MX too? Tonalá is just about 15 mi ENE of the landfall location, and the LF pressure was ~8 mb lower, so the pressure gradient was probably about 10 mb in 10 mi. Impressive!

Thats UTC...2:45 local time...and that's km/h...that station is about 15mi SW of Tonala, at the coast...

 

...and just about now, the stations came back to life:

29/05/2013 19:45         110         111       52.40       84.50        23.2         100       997.6         0.3
29/05/2013 20:00         127         108       56.20      106.40        23.8         100       996.5         0.0
29/05/2013 20:15         141         144       56.50       93.70        23.8         100       995.3         0.0
29/05/2013 20:30         177         185       59.50      111.00        23.5         100       995.8         0.3
29/05/2013 20:45         183         195       67.30      120.20        23.3         100       998.2         0.3
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Thats UTC...2:45 local time...and that's km/h...that station is about 15mi SW of Tonala, at the coast...

 

...and just about now, the stations came back to life:

29/05/2013 19:45         110         111       52.40       84.50        23.2         100       997.6         0.3
29/05/2013 20:00         127         108       56.20      106.40        23.8         100       996.5         0.0
29/05/2013 20:15         141         144       56.50       93.70        23.8         100       995.3         0.0
29/05/2013 20:30         177         185       59.50      111.00        23.5         100       995.8         0.3
29/05/2013 20:45         183         195       67.30      120.20        23.3         100       998.2         0.3

 

 

So now it looks like 67 km/h sustained, gusts to 120.  Not bad. 

 

Official landfall location was 20 mi w of Tonala, so if that station was 15 mi SW of Tonala, it was basically in the best spot possible to feel the right-front eyewall. :)

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Interestingly, the vortex seems to be maintaining intensity while actually tightening up over land. Currently the center is traversing a relatively low area but is about to enter mountainous peaks +2,000 ft. above means sea level. Does the increasing altitude, besides orographic lifting and frictional convergence, affect the lapse rate of the convection in such a way that it facilitates a tightening/strengthening of the low-level vorticity center? Barbara still looks remarkably organized, if not more so, over land:

 

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Barbara was strengthening upon landfall, so it's probably some inertia with a decent upper level support....southern half outflow is pretty nice, and shear from the N still hasn't disrupted the center. Terrain and stronger shear will probably take it's toll soon.

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Making calculations and looking at the data (sustained winds never abated until the center was quite far), the center was quite small, and at least 10 mi to the west of the PREDON automated station (which is no more than 10mi to the SW of Tonala, looking at it closely). For posterity sake, this is the barogram:

 

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Station at Arriaga, about 15-20mi to the WNW of Tonala and 10-15mi from the coast was closer to the eye, but it missed it too. It reported 36G56, which is pretty decent. The pressure sensor looks off by 6-7mb comparing it to PREDON...which suggests the eye might have been 990mb or maybe a little below that

 

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The storm is retaining its impressive structure but the intensity of the convection has been on the decline over the past few hours. Its slow movement and already weakened state means it's probably not going to survive the crossing (not that ti was likely to begin with), but it was fun to track anyways. Definitely one of my biggest forecast busts...I won't be so fast to jump on short-term satellite trends next time, lol.

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Station at Arriaga, about 15-20mi to the WNW of Tonala and 10-15mi from the coast was closer to the eye, but it missed it too. It reported 36G56, which is pretty decent. The pressure sensor looks off by 6-7mb comparing it to PREDON...which suggests the eye might have been 990mb or maybe a little below that

 

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Pressure for the automated stations is not calibrated for mean sea level. The Arriaga station is at 62m (mean altitude for the town is 56m), so correcting it for the altitude, it results in a 989mb MSLP 

 

Barbara has already gone past the roughest terrain (mostly missed Cerro Atravesado to the east), and it still looks decent. It will probably get it's feet wet by noon tomorrow. Shear looks strong, so if it loses it's LLC, I will attribute it more to shear than land interaction.

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Barbara looked to have a really tight, organized core at LF with a stadium effect developing in the eye as it crossed the coast. I would say that suggests the LF intensity was a bit higher than 65 kt--perhaps even near-Cat. 2 (80 kt), like Humberto 2007 in the Atlantic, in intensity. The microwave scan presents a TC with an eye-wall structure strikingly similar to that of Jova 2011 at LF, which Josh chased. (I know.  :pimp: ) It's also quite minute, with 'cane-force winds extending 25 mi from the small center. Note that potent SE quadrant making LF, which is why I made the comparison between Barbara and Jova.

 

I'm impressed. What a *hawt* little micro-cane...I could almost mistake it for a full-blown major. Our easternmost landfalling 'cane in the EPAC is such a pretty sight, from a structural perspective.

Hey, snowflake-- just read this whole post (finally), and I agree that Barbie was pretty hawt and it did have have some structural similarities with Jova. :wub:

It is a nice way to start the season.

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It's now on smooth terrain in the state of Tabasco. Barbara should be in the Gulf in around 6hrs at most.

 

Right now the remnants of Barbara are just entering the Gulf.  Low level circulation definitely still evident, but without any deep convection, it's going to be a slave to the low-level steering flow.  No longer shielded by topography, she's going to feel the full brunt of the easterlies which are quite strong right now.  Whatever is left of Barbara should plow into Veracruz today or tonight. 

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