dryslot Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 none of the climo sites in NE are looking at record lows. 30-35 low temps happen every year in May. The older you get the grumpier you become. And it's been noticed by many folks FYI Must be our age group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Looks like a couple mornings in the low 30's here, Not all that unusual up this way Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Looks like a couple mornings in the low 30's here, Not all that unusual up this wayYeah happens just about every May even in SNE. The rad spots will get a touch of frost at sunrise and a few glens and swamps will hit 28 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yeah happens just about every May even in SNE. The rad spots will get a touch of frost at sunrise and a few glens and swamps will hit 28 There may be a few spots that see upper 20's some of the valleys around the foothills possibly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Looks like a couple mornings in the low 30's here, Not all that unusual up this way seems like the airmass will be more anomalous for ema given bostons project low is below the record Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze would be rare for BDL this late. It would tie for 3rd latest on record if they made it to 32F. Latest was May 20th, 2002. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Frost and freeze is not all that uncommon in some areas here before memorial day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze would be rare for BDL this late. It would tie for 3rd latest on record if they made it to 32F. Latest was May 20th, 2002. Comparing that event to Tuesday's forecast..obviously not as cold of a setup, but still chilly: 2002: Forecast: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
klw Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The potential problem that could result that flowering trees up this way are in bloom. Not a big deal unless you have apple trees and get a cold snap bad enough to kill a good portion of the crop. This happened up this way last year. While the cold in May is certainly not unprecedented the milder springs have apparently leading to earlier flowering and greater susceptability to this late frosts. In may not cause an issue down there in SNE but I would rather not lose my apple crop again this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Interesting that the top analogs actually show a >60% probability of temperatures AOB 32°F Monday morning, although Tuesday looks like the better radiational cooling setup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Could be another freeze here just like last sunday. The farmers around here have not set crops in yet, so it won't be a huge deal, but it could hurt the apple crop this year if we get a freeze. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The potential problem that could result that flowering trees up this way are in bloom. Not a big deal unless you have apple trees and get a cold snap bad enough to kill a good portion of the crop. This happened up this way last year. While the cold in May is certainly not unprecedented the milder springs have apparently leading to earlier flowering and greater susceptability to this late frosts. In may not cause an issue down there in SNE but I would rather not lose my apple crop again this year. We lost the Red Currant here to a freeze last April when they started growing early due to the hot spring we had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze isn't hitting 31 for an hour at sunrise. A freeze is several hours in the upper 20's Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze isn't hitting 31 for an hour at sunrise. A freeze is several hours in the upper 20's It was at 31F here by 3am smart @ass. Met Herb was down to 28F, that's a freeze in my book. Frost will damage tender spring vegetation just as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze at 28 is a freeze. 31 is not Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze isn't hitting 31 for an hour at sunrise. A freeze is several hours in the upper 20's A freeze is defined meteorologically by hitting 32F. Your description is a "hard freeze". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 With the GFS and Euro showing an anomalously cold air mass for Mon-Wed of next week,I thought it would be fun to see if any low temp records are broken. Here are a few select cities in NE and their current daily lows for Mon and Tues next week, Wed could also be a possible record breaker but for now I just included Mon and Tues. Along side are GFS low temp predictions.Note the longevity of some of these records,would be cool to break some of these. If clouds are involved one of the days might break a low high for the day. Boston 5/13- 38 in 1882, GFS 40, 5/14- 37 in 1895, GFS 36 ° Hartford 5/13- 32 in 2010, GFS 36, 5/14- 32 in 1987, GFS 33 Worcester 5/13- 31 in 1928, GFS 35, 5/14- 33 in 1939, GFS 32 Concord 5/13- 27 in 2005, GFS 35, 5/14- 26 in 1996, GFS 31 Burlington 5/13- 30 in 2010, GFS 35, 5/14- 30 in 1967, GFS 24 ° Portland 5/13- 28 in 1962, GFS 39, 5/14- 28 in 1951, GFS 35 Tuesday records could be in jeopardy as it stands today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 A freeze is defined meteorologically by hitting 32F. Your description is a "hard freeze".So if a random site hits 31-32 for 30 mins that's a freeze? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 9, 2013 Author Share Posted May 9, 2013 You certainly learn who your true friends are and are not on here. Carry on Friends tell friends the truth and let them know when they have hit rock bottom. You are better than this and I do consider you a friend. I told several people yesterday you are totally different off the board, a fine community member, a great father and someone I am happy to be friends with. I just am surprised you totally took what you used to joke about to the next level and now its all hype all the time. Just sayin... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 So if a random site hits 31-32 for 30 mins that's a freeze? Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yes.Hmm . Interesting. Thanks for clarifying without trolling . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Hmm . Interesting. Thanks for clarifying without trolling . That's why the NWS always has the "hard freeze" wording when temps get into the U20s. That's what people care about unless you have very tender plants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damage In Tolland Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 That's why the NWS always has the "hard freeze" wording when temps get into the U20s. That's what people care about unless you have very tender plants.Yeah that's what I was getting at. I don't know of anything really that will freeze and be destroyed at an hour of 31-32 except maybe a tomato plant. The crops surely aren't effected. But temps in the upper 20's is def a crop concern Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The last time I checked, 31F was below freezing, unless physical science has changed and it was below freezing here on sunday morning from 3am-7am with quite a bit of frost. Storrs was down to 30.6F and Met Herb reported 28F. Luckily my neighbor who has a large vegetable garden, did not set out her plants until sunday afternoon. We had quite a bit of frost in my neighborhood: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yeah happens just about every May even in SNE. The rad spots will get a touch of frost at sunrise and a few glens and swamps will hit 28 Why do you downplay this stuff but hype normal May 70- degree temperatures? Frost is more exciting than trying to spin 57 degree dews as being humid, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 850 temps of -2C to -4C with a decoupled clear atmosphere could make it pretty close to records in the rad spots. Don't think we will make the 33F at ORH though since its a terrible rad spot and 850 temps aren't quite cold enough. If it was around -6C, then I think we'd have a legit shot to break that record low. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Yeah that's what I was getting at. I don't know of anything really that will freeze and be destroyed at an hour of 31-32 except maybe a tomato plant. The crops surely aren't effected. But temps in the upper 20's is def a crop concern Yeah if radiational conditions develop its timed right, it could be near record setting for a couple sites. Would be funny if this has more impact on crops than the damaging drought we are coming out of. Hype it up...its something to tweet about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 850 temps of -2C to -4C with a decoupled clear atmosphere could make it pretty close to records in the rad spots. Don't think we will make the 33F at ORH though since its a terrible rad spot and 850 temps aren't quite cold enough. If it was around -6C, then I think we'd have a legit shot to break that record low. What was the low temperature last sunday morning at ORH? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Why do you downplay this stuff but hype normal May 70- degree temperatures? Frost is more exciting than trying to spin 57 degree dews as being humid, lol. I am guessing that he didn't get below freezing last sunday, hence the downplay on my area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 The last couple few cycles of the operational Euro have been muting this cold wave a bit. Not sure any more how deeply cold incurs at this point. The 00z run really only got the area into -2C during the daylight hours of Tuesday, before moderating to 0+C in less than 24 hours. That will still cool conditions back significantly over the weekend, but the previous runs were down to -4 and -6C. Given to trend, what verifies may only be a knock back to seasonal cool bias as opposed to anything record-like. We'll see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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