CoastalWx Posted September 7, 2013 Share Posted September 7, 2013 Simple: 2011-12 the mother of all dead ratters 2012-13 the comeback to a great year. 2011-2012 should take a page from NYC's motto. If you can make it through that, you can make it through anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turtle Posted October 5, 2013 Share Posted October 5, 2013 Hello. Finally getting around to finalize our snow totals before this snow season starts... WFO TAUNTON (BOX) Cooperative Observing station 2011-12 14.9" 2012-13 68.0" Sorry I didn't get this online sooner, Will. --Turtle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Total Snowfall2000-01 through 2012-13 (Last 13 Years)Boston / Logan Airport: 620.9 inches / average 47.76 inchesBrookhaven Lab, L.I. / Upton: 538.6 inches / average 41.43 inchesNew York City / Central Park: 410.1 inches / average 31.55 inchesPhiladelphia / International Airport: 321.9 inches / average 24.76 inchesBaltimore / BWI Airport: 253.0 inches / average 19.46 inchesWashington / Reagan Airport: 182.7 inches / average 14.05 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Good stuff William still waiting for Wills maps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 Total Snowfall 2000-01 through 2012-13 (Last 13 Years) Boston / Logan Airport: 620.9 inches / average 47.76 inches Brookhaven Lab, L.I. / Upton: 538.6 inches / average 41.43 inches New York City / Central Park: 410.1 inches / average 31.55 inches Philadelphia / International Airport: 321.9 inches / average 24.76 inches Baltimore / BWI Airport: 253.0 inches / average 19.46 inches Washington / Reagan Airport: 182.7 inches / average 14.05 inches I actually got 622.8" for BOS which is 47.9"...hardly a difference, but to be exact. I know there's a few errors on the BOX site...the biggest ones being 2003-2004 winter (35.1 listed vs 39.4 in actual) and 2002-2003 (67.7 listed vs 71.3 in actual) but those add up to more than our differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Total Snowfall 2000-01 through 2012-13 (Last 13 Years) Boston / Logan Airport: 620.9 inches / average 47.76 inches Brookhaven Lab, L.I. / Upton: 538.6 inches / average 41.43 inches New York City / Central Park: 410.1 inches / average 31.55 inches Philadelphia / International Airport: 321.9 inches / average 24.76 inches Baltimore / BWI Airport: 253.0 inches / average 19.46 inches Washington / Reagan Airport: 182.7 inches / average 14.05 inches I'm surprised Long Island averages more than Central Park (by like 30% too)...that to me would be like Cape Cod averaging more than Taunton/BOX or something.Same latitude but sticking out over the water to the east....or is that LI average more a function of some luck with recent storm tracks? What's the long term climo between Long Island and spots around NYC? I just always assume that in the northeast, two spots on the same latitude and similar elevation, the one further west will average more snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 I'm surprised Long Island averages more than Central Park (by like 30% too)...that to me would be like Cape Cod averaging more than Taunton/BOX or something. Same latitude but sticking out over the water to the east....or is that LI average more a function of some luck with recent storm tracks? What's the long term climo between Long Island and spots around NYC? I just always assume that in the northeast, two spots on the same latitude and similar elevation, the one further west will average more snow. The 10 inch difference over the last 13 years is mostly a function of luck...the Upton mean after 65 years is 31.67"...<see link> http://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/MonthlySnowfall.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 North Shore of LI is a sweet spot ask Eck. Just look at last year's Blizz. Like the New Haven region is higher than BDR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzucker Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 The 10 inch difference over the last 13 years is mostly a function of luck...the Upton mean after 65 years is 31.67"...<see link> http://www.bnl.gov/weather/4cast/MonthlySnowfall.htm That's still a bit higher than Central Park. I think the urban heat island plays such a huge role in NYC compared to suburban locations, and places farther out on the Island are actually at slightly higher latitude, as well as closer to coastal lows, due to the slant of LI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 North Shore of LI is a sweet spot ask Eck. Just look at last year's Blizz. Like the New Haven region is higher than BDR. Interesting...so LI averages more snow than NYC area? I would imagine you don't have to go far outside the city (to the west) to get to higher averages than Long Island. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 That's still a bit higher than Central Park. I think the urban heat island plays such a huge role in NYC compared to suburban locations, and places farther out on the Island are actually at slightly higher latitude, as well as closer to coastal lows, due to the slant of LI. Ahh the UHI. Conceptually I can't see Long Island averaging more snow than areas to the west on the mainland. It goes against most general climate rules in the northeast...in that snowfall increases as you head away from the coast westward...not increasing as you head east out over the water. Anyone have like a average annual snowfall map for OKX's CWA while we are talking about this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Pamela Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 Here's a nice write up on the subject per board member NorthShoreWx... http://northshorewx.com/Climate.asp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Isotherm Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 NYC's 30 year 1980-2010 average is underdone compared to their "true" average, I think most will agree. NYC's average is 26.7" for the period 1981-2011, LGA's is 27.8", and Newark is 29.5". Further SW in New Brunswick / Middlesex / Monmouth, I have 29.0" for 1980-2010 and my current running 30 year normal is 29.4". New Brunswick is 28.8". NYC's still catching up from the horrible luck in the 80s. NYC's 1980s average was 19.7", while New Brunswick's 80s average was 27.5", a significant difference. So I think NYC's "true" average is around 28.0-28.5". LGA very similar. Newark and New Brunswick / areas just W-SW of NYC are 29.0-29.5". Then the 30"+ area begins about 15 miles west of NYC. http://www.lightinthestorm.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/NJ-Avg-Snow3.png NYC's slightly lower average compared to locations SW of them is likely due in part to cumulative effects of UHI on marginal snowfall events over the years. As far as NYC versus LI, as William pointed out, the slightly higher latitude in conjunction with more favorable positioning for Miller B's, give them an average 2-4" higher. Miller B's and redevelopers have been quite frequent around here over the past 15-20 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snywx Posted October 12, 2013 Share Posted October 12, 2013 2012-2013: 58.1" 2011-2012: 23" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted October 15, 2013 Author Share Posted October 15, 2013 Ahh the UHI. Conceptually I can't see Long Island averaging more snow than areas to the west on the mainland. It goes against most general climate rules in the northeast...in that snowfall increases as you head away from the coast westward...not increasing as you head east out over the water. Anyone have like a average annual snowfall map for OKX's CWA while we are talking about this? Northern LI has latitude on NYC as had been pointed out. Also the geography does matter some with the snowfall...like if you go straight west from the western Cape and around EWB over to SE CT (about 10 miles inland for equivalanet latitude), the former averages more snow than the latter. You get about 30-35" per year vs high 20s despite the Cape/EWB being further east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 my 12-13 ended up at 51" Will. but it's a funny thing because i know for met clad fact reasoning that areas just to my east and west got less for the season (by as much as 10") because twice there was a weenie band literally IMBY. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted October 15, 2013 Share Posted October 15, 2013 my 12-13 ended up at 51" Will. but it's a funny thing because i know for met clad fact reasoning that areas just to my east and west got less for the season (by as much as 10") because twice there was a weenie band literally IMBY.doesn’t it suck when you jackpot like that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted October 16, 2013 Share Posted October 16, 2013 doesn’t it suck when you jackpot like that It's not official until messenger drives around to measure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
radarman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 Old sig, now removed. Snow dates 2012/2013 Btown: 11/7 .5" 11/27 1" 12/1 .5" 12/21 .5" 12/27 5.5" 12/29 5" 1/6 .75" 1/16 4.5" 1/21 1.5" 1/28 1.75" 2/3 .25" 2/5 .25" 2/8 20" 2/11 1" 2/16 3.5" 2/24 1.5" 3/8 9" 3/18 6"Amherst: 12/1 .5" 12/27 4.5" 12/29 4" 1/6 .5" 1/16 4" 1/21 1" 1/28 1" 2/8 21" 2/11 1" 2/16 2" 2/25 .25" 3/8 1" 3/18 6" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 2011-2012...........25-26 inches...half or slightly more than half of that in the October storm 2012-2013 51-52 inches Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HalloweenGale Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 2012-2013 for The Lagoon Heights neighborhood of Oak Bluffs: 27.4 inches. The bulk of which came from the blizzard. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rgwp96 Posted November 8, 2013 Share Posted November 8, 2013 46 in butler nj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animal Posted November 9, 2013 Share Posted November 9, 2013 65-70 inches in Highland Lakes, NJ 2012-2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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