shadow Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 my wife is pretty anxious when it comes to driving in the snow...and has a job that does not allow her to skip out work for it either. may only come in handy a couple times a year...but better safe than sorry. also...pretty sure we got more snow than you last year...just saying thats cool if it make her feel safer but its not to hilly down their and snow tires only help you go not stop and thats when you have accidents . all wheel drive with no snows we have no trouble up here . you should get that for her she would love it hahah you may have 3 inches here and their but you dont need snow tires for that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I can foretell this solution pretty easily I think. The low goes way out and curves back in based on where the PV is going. Our last and only hope is that. And I hate to hang on those crazy uncle solutions but I'll take what I can get and be happy with it. Congrats nzucker...the new sage. It's gonna bury donweast, ME....it's pretty easy to see the type of "no snow for you" consensus developing this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 How many more days does Boston have for their snowless streak to be a record? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 How many more days does Boston have for their snowless streak to be a record? Look at how strong all of these blocks were!!!!!!! I've been shoveling heights over Greenland for a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 This may make as far east as 60W before curving back. I think a trip to Wiscasset is mandated for Monday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 How many more days does Boston have for their snowless streak to be a record? 8 more after today. But it will probably be stopped by a token 0.2...the way the luck has been going...lol.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
42N72W Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Still holding out hope for Sunday's storm. The kids are dying to go sledding and it seems a little less Christmassy without snow. Seeems like the end result of this storm is a continuation of last winter's trend - lot's of storms, lots of near misses or downgrading of threats and snow totals as storms approached. Should be some interesting reading on this forum over the next 24-36 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 5-10" from a NORLUN in downeast ME last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 This may make as far east as 60W before curving back. I think a trip to Wiscasset is mandated for Monday. Still another threat to dissappoint us before we mercifully close out the year....I hope we torch after xmas, at least get comfy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I guess the s/w is slower over the lower OH valley which is better, but I wish it were a little further south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I guess the s/w is slower over the lower OH valley which is better, but I wish it were a little further south. I'm going to guess that it won't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Too much euphoria over a spurious Euro solution over 2 runs. The king has been exposed as well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Lol at the gfs worse than 6z... euro or bust now folks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Well, At the moment, We can pretty much put to bed all the ones that were worried about mixing issues............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shadow Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 well maybe we will get something after xmas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
correnjim1 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Well, At the moment, We can pretty much put to bed all the ones that were worried about mixing issues............... Ya, the lobstermen can worry about that now lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Too much euphoria over a spurious Euro solution over 2 runs. The king has been exposed as well.... Yeah this wasn't its best performance by a long shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Typhoon Tip Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I'm beginning to lose hope. We need a shift in the 12z runs and the NAM was a bad start. I hear yah. People may not want to hear this but from a purely scientific/modeling retrospective analysis there would probably be some fascinating post-mortem research into why the models performed, probably the worst for any specific event spanning the last 10 years of the technology, regarding this particular system. Really, there's got to be some interesting reasons behind this, what really should be counted as "miss"guidance rather than guidance. From where I am sitting, 'no system at all' really could not be ruled out at this point. Every possibility is still on the table; though subjectively it may be really easy to throw your hands and walk away as a no show - One thing I am noticing is that this was becoming less a southern stream interaction with SPV or SPV fragmentation, but an intermediate jet max now entering N/A near the Washington border with Canada, beginning on Tuesday. This became very evident and trackable during the 12z guidance initializaiton yesterday, and then proceding through the charts out to 96 hours. Those dynamics were amplifying in the OV--MA states, altimately closing off along or SE of New England. That synoptic evolution has been muted over the the last 12 hours worth of cycles across the board, showing now lesser intermediate stream injection than the model unilaterally targeted on the 12z run yesterday. I suspect at least some of this would be evidenced in any aforementioned post-mortem study, and how well the models handled this stream insert. Why they are discontinuous with that feature is a mystery - is it really that invisible in the sounding? Was it data assimilation perhaps over emphasizing that stream's wind max, thus forcibly inserting too much dynamics down stream?? It is hard to say, but fascinating questions. That all said, this is probably still not entirely hopeless from an objective view point. But in all fairness, that objectivity requires that the probability of this returning, however not 0, is on the S side of 50% no doubt. Thankfully for the snow enthusiasts, this isn't March 15th Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Cape Scraper........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
codfishsnowman Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Wow....easy come, easy go lol... .I guess even the cape might not do more than advisory level at best..unbelievable... Just curious...anyone who has spent a good number of years in the hfd/spfd area, what is the greatest snow depth that you have ever observed??? During the winter of 95/96 I observed just under two feet on the ground after the jan blizzard and in Feb 01 after the big snow of Feb 5 I observed just about two feet on the ground (snow depth). In the blizzard of 96 there was seven to nine inches of snow on the ground from previous storms and before the early feb storm there was four to seven inches of glacier snow on the ground ( i remember i had to use force to get the yard stick through it). For both of these storms I lived in Bristol Ct. It is unfortunate that I left Bristol two years before the Feb 06 storm which dropped about two feet in town. Greatly appreciate all honest replies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Too much euphoria over a spurious Euro solution over 2 runs. The king has been exposed as well.... It's only exposed when it's favorable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooralph Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I am trying to talk myself into getting fired up for an extended flizzard. It will help with the Christmas spirit, but we have to feel a little like Yankees fans with the Russell Martin signing right now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Two things: One, that OV s/w will probably trend slower with each run/hang back more for another run or two. Unless it digs more we're not going to be happy as it will just serve to block moisture from shooting north. Second, this is probably the east outlier or at least I hope. And I guess three, the GFS is a total miss too irregardless of the obligatory .1, there will be some precip down this way if it is right but nothing of consequence. Someone should check the GW Bridge webcam to make sure Kevin doesn't have his climbing gloves on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 We have two tracks for storms this winter it seems. 1.) cutters 2.) offshore lows that develop too late and come back for ME and NB. Now if you look at this - it is looking for and more like #2. Maybe we should have expected that all along. Northern and Eastern Maine. The SW portion of the state has gotten almost nothing. Had 0.8" IMBY from retro #1 and nada from #2, and that's better off than most of the Maine posters south and west of me. Most folks daring enough to offer winter forecasts had December as the best month for snow and cold in the Northeast, though the few who made March forecasts had that also colder and snowier than avg. Given what was said about La Nina winters (saw lots of "good early, bad middle, maybe good again late"), watching all these December opportunities pass by gets discouraging. Oh well, it's only weather. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
40/70 Benchmark Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amarshall Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 149 days until tuna fishing season. How about we take the storm mode operating status off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Honestly, this run looks like the 0z GGEM from last night. 72Hour GFS and 84 Hour GGEM match up pretty well with regards to the SLP placement. Now I guess we'll see if it follows suit with a retrograde back into the GOM, like the GGEM portrayed in later hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Everything has gone right. - The Euro came east - Ray had a meltdown - Kevin is still happy with 4-8" he'll never see - Messenger has returned Anything else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phishn Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Further east seems to be the trend 12 Z, definitely not looking good, but never lose hope. Remember 2/10/2010 when the models said even 6-12 hours out SNE was getting nailed, blizzard warnings hoisted? It could still happen regardless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Everything has gone right. - The Euro came east - Ray had a meltdown - Kevin is still happy with 4-8" he'll never see - Messenger has returned Anything else? At this point I'm rooting for a Dec with above normal precip, below normal temps, and 0" of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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