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December 19th-20 Storm Thread III


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Its not just do to one bullish member either...almost all of them are west of the OP...though only problem I have with really believing it is that none of the other models are coming in like that except maybe the NAM which was grazing eastern areas. I would have liked to see the RGEM/GGEM/Ukie come in a bit snowier.

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Hmmm..my 21st birthday miracle..."It could happen"

With that...off to Broad street in Boston...good vibes, good vibes.

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Will does the inverted trough impact the Cape and Islands with any QPF?

It looks like the Cape might get an inch or so from the Euro assuming they are cold enough to snow...maybe even back toward EWB and UUU and there's a bit of an inverted trough for E CT.

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Eastern CT including me in NE CT or east of here?

Well it only has QPF into SE CT/S RI....but it could extend northward into NE CT and NW RI or even C MA if its a little more potent than advertised. I wouldn't get any hopes up for anything out of it, but I suppose it wouldn't be shocking to see a band of steadier light snow set up along that axis.

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I could see something where that inv trough may have a little area of snow with it....or perhaps even extending a little further west of it.....almost like a mini waa snow. This would probably be localized, but moist ne winds off the water meeting up with nnw-n winds could make for a little snow in some areas. I've see it happen before, but it doesn't always materialize.

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Well it only has QPF into SE CT/S RI....but it could extend northward into NE CT and NW RI or even C MA if its a little more potent than advertised. I wouldn't get any hopes up for anything out of it, but I suppose it wouldn't be shocking to see a band of steadier light snow set up along that axis.

Yeah maybe we can sneak out an inch or 2..Wouldn't surprise me at all.

How about the Tuesday night snow? Still there?

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So now the EURO is at odds with the other models regarding potential OES. Oh well, it doesn't go our way about 99.9% of the time anyways. I guess the 12z NAM was on its own.

i hope the euro craps the bed with this storm unti tonite /tommorrow with this anamalous set up.

record negative ao today in the sense that we have never had a -AO of 5 or more with a negative reading in enso 3.4 .......the other -5 AO (which this year is now lower THAN LAST year's lowest reading) occured while enso 3.4 was positive according to my interrpretation of don s.'s post earlier today.

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Snowgoose FTW

The only thing to watch right now is the LI/CT region tomorrow night, the norlun signature is very evident on both the 12Z GFS and NAM and especially the GEM at 36 hours (RGEM as well). These things of course often do not develop when you see them modeled, and the setup at 500mb is not exceptionally great with no extreme PVA or vort mximum but the 850mb setup looks pretty classic.

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I don't think I would get all worked up over the Euro one way or another after what it just pulled the other day.

nope from reading different threads in main weather forum from numerous mets and some may wonder here how the euro and ukie have somewhat similiar scores for verification (with euro winning out) and gfs not thaaat far behind....when everyone usually says king euro this or king euro that.

The euro is undisputed king in certain set up's like we have last week with the lp that the gfs was pathetic on.......with this set up currently apparently the euro is not the king. don't know if anyone is for that matter.

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Just go find some girl and forget about wx for a week. You're still a young and single. LOL I'm single, but 90% the women my age have teenage kids.

Great, LI and CT have the norlun to watch, se MA, RI and cc have the storm to watch and NNE has the retrograde potential to watch......I have my atery to watch bleed out after a slice myself.

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