OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I have nice inch and half of snow covering the lawn in Keene. Good chances of a white Christmas even if it's just with what we've got now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DavisStraight Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Actually, scratch that - it could have been... The worst of all time was that blown Blizzard Warning way back in January of 1987 - the one compared to the Blizzard of '78 by KTAN? Many of you were not even born; it could be worse here. Bar none ... that cannot be exceeded in terms of sense of loss, utter anger, and for lack of better word even sadness If thats the one Im thinking didnt they show Shelby Scott on the Cape in the middle of a blizzard? There were a couple of big storms forecasted back in the late 80's that missed us and hit the cape pretty good. Im a little west of you and think i got a dusting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Parking Ban FAIL Dear Students:With snow in the forecast, our Facilities Management Department will need unimpeded access in the parking lots for the plows to operate. A parking ban will be instituted beginning at 12 noon on Sunday December 19th. At 12 noon on Sunday all vehicles should be relocated to Lot #17 (large lot - east campus).The parking ban will remain in effect into Monday. A notification will be sent out when the ban is concluded. Please monitor your Stonehill College email for updates to the parking ban.You may stay in a residential parking lot for a brief period of time (20 minute maximum) if you are actively loading your vehicle to leave campus. When loading, please make sure your vehicle is in a marked parking space, not a fire lane, handicap space, or staff space.Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 Parking Ban FAIL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The elephant was the warmth over the last year, not snowlessness. Honestly this is just bad luck and hopefully things stay interesting in the short and long term. As I mentioned earlier today the area from west of ORH to ALB has been in a snow hole (except for the highest terrain) . Not sure if Keene area has been similar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 At least coastal areas are at least back to watching the game. It could end up like the Patriots jets but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mahk_webstah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 That's in my region ...being in the ALB market, and it seems to me the obs from that route 7 corridor of Bennington County tend to be underwhelming. I'm sure they do ok, but any Upslope is east of where the population centers are ...on those cross roads that go over the Greens such as route 9, route 11, etc. Places like Woodford get buried, but towns like Bennington and Manchester not really. Thanks....where I am staying abuts conservation land and the greens I think....so some hiking or snowmobiling is in order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Man, obviously we're all pretty dejected, but I feel bad for the plow guys. They've taken a huge hit so far and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. Really anyone who relies on seasonal dependent employment. Ain't a lot of workers at the ski areas yet and I'm sure sales for all things winter are slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I just want everyone to know that things went in the sh*tter BEFORE I bought the snow tires. There was no jinxing involved. 26.8/17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I just want everyone to know that things went in the sh*tter BEFORE I bought the snow tires. There was no jinxing involved. 26.8/17 I just got my snow blower back from the shop today so I may be at fault here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorEastermass128 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I just want everyone to know that things went in the sh*tter BEFORE I bought the snow tires. There was no jinxing involved. 26.8/17 Things went in the sh*tter as I was buying a new shovel last night at 5PM. My bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Really anyone who relies on seasonal dependent employment. Ain't a lot of workers at the ski areas yet and I'm sure sales for all things winter are slow. Same as '06, but that was a torch. It definitely feels like winter, just doesn't look like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Things went in the sh*tter as I was buying a new shovel last night at 5PM. My bad. The 18z runs yesterday went to hell an hour after Ray and messenger logged on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 What's funny is it's playing out just like last year. In closer it's pulling NW for those down in the MA, but up here it's more subtle struggling to get around to coming NW. If history is a guide it will pull further NW down there and pull just far enough NW here to piss us all off even more. I'm sure the GFS will throw the fantasy .01 and .1 lines NW this run, but it's meaningless. The only positive is there was a good jump towards a more consolidated low. Back to work nothing to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neweathereye Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Has anyone seen the latest HPC extended discussion from this afternoon..... LIKE WHAT! EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 141 PM EST THU DEC 16 2010 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 19 2010 - 12Z THU DEC 23 2010 ..INCREASING THREAT OF MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM ..CONTINUED HEAVY PRECIPITATION INTO THE WEST EXTREME HIGH LATITUDE BLOCK TO RETROGRADE TO NCENTRAL CANADA LOCKING IN TROFS OVER THE ERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN ATLC MID TO LATE PERIOD. PRIOR TO THAT FAST ZONAL PAC FLOW CONTS TO DRIVE INTO THE WEST AND EASTERN THRU THE PLAINS WITH A FIRST RELATIVELY AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE COMING TOWARDS THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND ROTATING NWD WITH A DEEP OFF SHORE STORM FOLLOWED BY BRIEFLY ZONAL FLOW AGAIN WITH EMBEDDED WAEKER SHORTWAVES COMING ACROSS THE PLAINS TO THE EAST. UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS BLENDED THE 00Z UKMET WITH THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN DAYS 3 TO 5. THIS KEPT UP A WIND AND COASTAL SNOW THREAT ALONG THE NEW ENGLAND COAST DAYS 4-5 LATE SUN INTO TUES. OPERATIONAL RUNS OF 00Z ECMWF AND GFS HAVE REVERSED SOLUTIONS SINCE YTDAS 12Z RUNS WITH THE N ATLC LOW. LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST OF LAST 4 RUNS OF BOTH GFS AND ECMWF PREFERRED KEEPING THE SFC LOW EAST OF THE 00Z OP ECMWF CLOSER TO THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN AND EASILY CLOSE ENOUGH TO AFFECT COASTAL NEW ENGLAND. 12Z GFS HAS SWITCHED BACK TO A DEEPER MUCH CLOSER IN LOW CLOSE TO YTDAS 12Z GFS AND CURRENT 00Z ECMWF TAKING A 980 MB OFF CAPE COD. THIS SCENARIO FOLLOWS YTDAS HPC PROGS AND THINKING AS MODELS BEGIN TO CONVERGE ON A MORE AGREED UPON SOLUTION WITH GOOD HPC FORECAST CONTINUITY FROM YESTERDAY. 12Z UKMET NOW DEEPER AND A BIT FARTHER OFF WHILE THE OP CMC HAS A 976 MB LOW NEAR THE NORTHEAST BENCHMARK AT 40/70 WHILE ECMWF HAS ITS 975 MB LOW NEAR BLOCK ISLAND SOUND. NAVY NOGAPS ALSO DEEP AND CLOSE IN TO CAPE COD. GFS ENS MEANS A BIT EAST BUT MEAN PCPN SHOWING A SIG PCPN EVENT OVER COASTAL MA. AFTN PROGS WILL ADJUST SLIGHTLY WEST HAVING A DEEP LOW NEAR THE NORTHEAST BENCHMARK. MODELS ARE CONVERGING ON THIS SOLUTION WITH INCREASED FORECASTER CONFIDNECE. RAPID DEEPENING INDICATED BY 12Z GFS/CMC/00Z AND 12Z ECMWF MODELS FOLLOWS DYNAMICS AND THE INFLUENCE OF INCREASED BAROCLINICITY DUE TO THE DE STABILIZATION OVER RELATIVELY WARM OCEAN WATERS FROM THE RECENT COLD AIR OUTBREAK MEETING. THIS INCREASES THE THREAT OF A SNOW EVENT ALONG THE MID ATLC COAST FROM EASTERN VA UP THE COAST AND ESPECIALLY A HEAVY SNOW THREAT FOR COASTAL NEW ENGLAND. SOME ADDITIONAL WESTWARD ADJUSTMENT MADE FROM THIS MORNINGS PRELIMS WITH AFTN UPDATED PROGS INCLUDING OPERATIONAL 12Z GFS AND 12Z CMC. HIGH WIND AND SNOW THREAT NEW ENG COAST LATE SUNDAY AND MONDAY. NEXT CLIPPER TYPE OF LOW ADJUSTED SOUTHWARD IN ITS TRACK THAN GFS TO COME THRU THE SRN APPLCHNS AND OFF NC COAST TUES. BLEND OF GFS/ECMWF ENS MADE WHICH ALSO MATCHES A LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST FOR DAYS 6 AND 7. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The 18z runs yesterday went to hell an hour after Ray and messenger logged on. Yeah but even before I logged in I was telling other members I thought the threat was SE NE. Never bought into the blizzard scenario. Ray had already printed his "I survived the great blizzard of December 2010" shirts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Yeah but even before I logged in I was telling other members I thought the threat was SE NE. Never bought into the blizzard scenario. Ray had already printed his "I survived the great blizzard of December 2010" shirts. He seemed the happiest he's been on here in a year yesterday afternoon. I feel bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 The NAM is really nailing Halifax now. What's funny is it's playing out just like last year. In closer it's pulling NW for those down in the MA, but up here it's more subtle struggling to get around to coming NW. If history is a guide it will pull further NW down there and pull just far enough NW here to piss us all off even more. I'm sure the GFS will throw the fantasy .01 and .1 lines NW this run, but it's meaningless. The only positive is there was a good jump towards a more consolidated low. Back to work nothing to see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ScituateWX Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Man, obviously we're all pretty dejected, but I feel bad for the plow guys. They've taken a huge hit so far and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. Yeah I hear you there, I don't plow for the state or town, I just have 15 or so driveways and a few parking lots. It is decent cash when the going is good a like 04-05 winte type was great, but when its going the way it has of late it is rough but what can you do? The thing is even if its just small clippers that throw down 3-5 your good to go, you don't need the monsters even though everyone loves them. That is what makes this event tough to take it looked huge and then to maybe not even get anything but cirrus clouds is a real kick in the balls. I will wait on the 00z runs before I put the fork in this one, maybe somehow i can score a few inches down this way who knows. Anyway I think I would be more upset if this was March 17th, but its December and we still got a while yet although it does not look great and nothing has worked out, hopefully we can pull somthing out of the hat down the road even if it is just a small event snow is snow at this point LOL. I will stop rambling now but we are just a week or so out from Christmas my best advice is its time to enjoy the season, parties, friends and family. Let the heavy heavy drinking begin tonight! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I just want everyone to know that things went in the sh*tter BEFORE I bought the snow tires. There was no jinxing involved. 26.8/17 We'd like a copy of the receipt lol Somebody has been messing with New England's juju for the last 12 months. Could be anyone, but I think it's time to step up the investigation Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Honestly this is just bad luck and hopefully things stay interesting in the short and long term. As I mentioned earlier today the area from west of ORH to ALB has been in a snow hole (except for the highest terrain) . Not sure if Keene area has been similar? The models weren't unlucky. The models were sucky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Has anyone seen the latest HPC extended discussion from this afternoon..... LIKE WHAT! EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 141 PM EST THU DEC 16 2010 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 19 2010 - 12Z THU DEC 23 2010 ..INCREASING THREAT OF MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM ..CONTINUED HEAVY PRECIPITATION INTO THE WEST EXTREME HIGH LATITUDE BLOCK TO RETROGRADE TO NCENTRAL CANADA LOCKING IN TROFS OVER THE ERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN ATLC MID TO LATE PERIOD. PRIOR TO THAT FAST ZONAL PAC FLOW CONTS TO DRIVE INTO THE WEST AND EASTERN THRU THE PLAINS WITH A FIRST RELATIVELY AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE COMING TOWARDS THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND ROTATING NWD WITH A DEEP OFF SHORE STORM FOLLOWED BY BRIEFLY ZONAL FLOW AGAIN WITH EMBEDDED WAEKER SHORTWAVES COMING ACROSS THE PLAINS TO THE EAST. UPDATED MORNING PRELIMS BLENDED THE 00Z UKMET WITH THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN DAYS 3 TO 5. THIS KEPT UP A WIND AND COASTAL SNOW THREAT ALONG THE NEW ENGLAND COAST DAYS 4-5 LATE SUN INTO TUES. OPERATIONAL RUNS OF 00Z ECMWF AND GFS HAVE REVERSED SOLUTIONS SINCE YTDAS 12Z RUNS WITH THE N ATLC LOW. LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST OF LAST 4 RUNS OF BOTH GFS AND ECMWF PREFERRED KEEPING THE SFC LOW EAST OF THE 00Z OP ECMWF CLOSER TO THE 00Z ECMWF ENS MEAN AND EASILY CLOSE ENOUGH TO AFFECT COASTAL NEW ENGLAND. 12Z GFS HAS SWITCHED BACK TO A DEEPER MUCH CLOSER IN LOW CLOSE TO YTDAS 12Z GFS AND CURRENT 00Z ECMWF TAKING A 980 MB OFF CAPE COD. THIS SCENARIO FOLLOWS YTDAS HPC PROGS AND THINKING AS MODELS BEGIN TO CONVERGE ON A MORE AGREED UPON SOLUTION WITH GOOD HPC FORECAST CONTINUITY FROM YESTERDAY. 12Z UKMET NOW DEEPER AND A BIT FARTHER OFF WHILE THE OP CMC HAS A 976 MB LOW NEAR THE NORTHEAST BENCHMARK AT 40/70 WHILE ECMWF HAS ITS 975 MB LOW NEAR BLOCK ISLAND SOUND. NAVY NOGAPS ALSO DEEP AND CLOSE IN TO CAPE COD. GFS ENS MEANS A BIT EAST BUT MEAN PCPN SHOWING A SIG PCPN EVENT OVER COASTAL MA. AFTN PROGS WILL ADJUST SLIGHTLY WEST HAVING A DEEP LOW NEAR THE NORTHEAST BENCHMARK. MODELS ARE CONVERGING ON THIS SOLUTION WITH INCREASED FORECASTER CONFIDNECE. RAPID DEEPENING INDICATED BY 12Z GFS/CMC/00Z AND 12Z ECMWF MODELS FOLLOWS DYNAMICS AND THE INFLUENCE OF INCREASED BAROCLINICITY DUE TO THE DE STABILIZATION OVER RELATIVELY WARM OCEAN WATERS FROM THE RECENT COLD AIR OUTBREAK MEETING. THIS INCREASES THE THREAT OF A SNOW EVENT ALONG THE MID ATLC COAST FROM EASTERN VA UP THE COAST AND ESPECIALLY A HEAVY SNOW THREAT FOR COASTAL NEW ENGLAND. SOME ADDITIONAL WESTWARD ADJUSTMENT MADE FROM THIS MORNINGS PRELIMS WITH AFTN UPDATED PROGS INCLUDING OPERATIONAL 12Z GFS AND 12Z CMC. HIGH WIND AND SNOW THREAT NEW ENG COAST LATE SUNDAY AND MONDAY. NEXT CLIPPER TYPE OF LOW ADJUSTED SOUTHWARD IN ITS TRACK THAN GFS TO COME THRU THE SRN APPLCHNS AND OFF NC COAST TUES. BLEND OF GFS/ECMWF ENS MADE WHICH ALSO MATCHES A LAGGED AVERAGE FORECAST FOR DAYS 6 AND 7. You copied and pasted yesterdays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Really anyone who relies on seasonal dependent employment. Ain't a lot of workers at the ski areas yet and I'm sure sales for all things winter are slow. There's a run on hats, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthCoastMA Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Dude that's yesterday's HPC discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PWMan Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Parking Ban FAIL I had a few different people at work today make reference to "the big snowstorm that's coming," including one counterpart at another office who said she'd be in on Monday "as long as I'm not snowed in." I didn't have the heart to tell anyone that nothing's coming. Also, I'm always reluctant to let on how much of a weather geek I am. I can just hear the crickets if, during office birthday-party banter, I blurted out, "Actually, guys, the 12z Euro just came in and stuck a fork in this one. Flizzard at best!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Has anyone seen the latest HPC extended discussion from this afternoon..... LIKE WHAT! EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 141 PM EST THU DEC 16 2010 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 19 2010 - 12Z THU DEC 23 2010 ..INCREASING THREAT OF MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM ..CONTINUED HEAVY PRECIPITATION INTO THE WEST Thursday the 16th was yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I had a few different people at work today make reference to "the big snowstorm that's coming," including one counterpart at another office who said she's be in on Monday "as long as I'm not snowed in." I didn't have the heart to tell anyone that nothing's coming. Also, I'm always reluctant to let on how much of a weather geek I am. I can just hear the crickets if, during office birthday-party banter, I blurted out, "Actually, guys, the 12z Euro just cam in and stuck a fork in this one. Flizzard at best!" I was flipping through the radio stations in the car, found someone talking about the big snow on Sunday, and then played "I'm Dreaming of a White Christmas". Wanted to puke all over the wheel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 http://www.youtube.c...h?v=lwS_YDzxH3M Has anyone seen the latest HPC extended discussion from this afternoon..... LIKE WHAT! EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 141 PM EST THU DEC 16 2010 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 19 2010 - 12Z THU DEC 23 2010 ..INCREASING THREAT OF MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM ..CONTINUED HEAVY PRECIPITATION INTO THE WEST EXTREME HIGH LATITUDE BLOCK TO RETROGRADE TO NCENTRAL CANADA LOCKING IN TROFS OVER THE ERN PACIFIC AND WESTERN ATLC MID TO LATE PERIOD. PRIOR TO THAT FAST ZONAL PAC FLOW CONTS TO DRIVE INTO THE WEST AND EASTERN THRU THE PLAINS WITH A FIRST RELATIVELY AMPLIFIED SHORTWAVE COMING TOWARDS THE EAST COAST SUNDAY AND ROTATING NWD WITH A DEEP OFF SHORE STORM FOLLOWED BY BRIEFLY ZONAL FLOW AGAIN WITH EMBEDDED WAEKER SHORTWAVES COMING ACROSS THE PLAINS TO THE EAST. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Has anyone seen the latest HPC extended discussion from this afternoon..... LIKE WHAT! EXTENDED FORECAST DISCUSSION NWS HYDROMETEOROLOGICAL PREDICTION CENTER CAMP SPRINGS MD 141 PM EST THU DEC 16 2010 VALID 12Z SUN DEC 19 2010 - 12Z THU DEC 23 2010 ..INCREASING THREAT OF MAJOR EAST COAST WINTER STORM ..CONTINUED HEAVY PRECIPITATION INTO THE WEST Read the date before reading the headline please. It's a good practice to pick up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
neweathereye Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 You copied and pasted yesterdays. Oh crap....duh...just realized that...SORRY! I apologize to anyone I may have offended or to any weenies in the room....my bad!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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