tamarack Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think they have done ok up there........ They had a decent base and mongo snowmaking, but they also caught 3-4" rain earlier this week and I think the 40s went all the way to the summits. The trails where they have time to put down significant man-made should be very good - solid new stuff over rock-hard base. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I really like to see more of a focus on that first impulse. The jump didn't get made completely at 18z but it's closer. Note the dual low centers at 42 hours. We still have that second system deep offshore under the 500mb max. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 18z NAM looks good, if you live in Norfolk, VA or the southern Delmarva, otherwise zip for all of NY and New England, including the Cape and Islands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 WHOOSH!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Wow this is probably one of the biggest model FUs within 72 hours of an event I've seen in a long time. "funny" thing is though...you take out those two ec ens runs that came west with the op...and the mean was dead on balls accurate for about 6 days, IIRC. in retrospect, we probably move too quick when we see all these different pieces of data rolling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 18z NAM looks good, if you live in Norfolk, VA or the southern Delmarva, otherwise zip for all of NY and New England, including the Cape and Islands. Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Hmm probably never was any hope for that one near ALB so I can't recall it... I do recall a nice 1 foot + dump around the 21st or 22nd of that January 1987...came right up from Hatteras in classic fashion. We got 40" total at my house that January, but winter utterly died after that with blocking as some storms hit the MA. I'm a bit older and was attending SUNYA then...got a speeding ticket en route to school near mile marker 125 on the Thruway the day before that storm..dunno why this sticks in my mind. I'm sure I must have been listening to Craig Allen on wbcs 880 or something and got distracted. Think it was 70 in a 55 also.....before they put it back up to 65. oh gag -keep it. In a kind of deviant way this all funny. It really could not have been scripted as a cruel hoax any better. Actually, scratch that - it could have been... The worst of all time was that blown Blizzard Warning way back in January of 1987 - the one compared to the Blizzard of '78 by KTAN? Many of you were not even born; it could be worse here. Bar none ... that cannot be exceeded in terms of sense of loss, utter anger, and for lack of better word even sadness. 3 days before the event there were ticker alerts running across the bottom of the TV every hour it seemed, waring of a massive event. 2 days before the event Blizzard Watches were flying for all of eastern CT/RI and eastern MA, with WSW everywhere else. Tickers were warning of 24+ inches of snow and damage to infrustruture from wind, and where wind and wetter snow at the coast would surely mean extended/extensive power outages. Groceries ... flying off the shelves, MASS HYSTERIA was underway. The day before impact, watches converted to warnings. I didn't have access to the forecast models back then, but I wonder what model pulled the plug first. The eve before the biggest event possibly of all time, big noodles of snow/rain/sleet were flitting by in the street lamp outside the Acton-Boxborough High School gymnasium. Between pick up games I would go outside and check, and noted that the temperature bombed down like 20 and it was suddenly rather frigid, and the air was dry, and nothing was falling, and it was eerily still. The butterscotch sky of an hour and a half ago was slithly yellow over head, and black on the horizons. Something just "felt" wrong, and I wasn't a trained Met yet, I didn't have weather models, just an sensation I was diligently ingoring that something just was not right. Harvey Leonard comes on at 11pm and rammed the dagger through, " ..It now appears the worst of this will impact the Cape and the Islands". What had been 18-24" "conservative" snow graphics were reduced to 2-4" between 5pm and 11pm that evening. I didn't even let him finish the report - I went to bed in disbelief, too much momentum, it had to be wrong. In the morning while getting ready for school that wasn't canceled ... there were some light flurries in the air. Maybe a small accumulation had blown up against tires and curbs, but bear ground was abound. It was 9F, I remember that, as the NNW wind was a cheek number and the walk was a mile in direct opposition - so to add to the insult was actual physical torment, not just emotional - haha. So in the end 2-4" was actually probably too liberal based on the unbelievableness of so many days of momentum and certitude crumbling in fragile awareness. A robot might have forecasted a dusting NW of the Cape Cod Canel and he would have been right, but no human could believe it. OH, man I never experienced a let down since then, and never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I'm waiting for a WINDEX event. That will make up for things. Normally I'd agree, but the last one to hit MBY was last jan 28, and it was followed by nearly 4 weeks without measurable precip while the MA got buried - thrice in some places. Makes for bad mind-associations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 LO.L...just peeked at 18Z for the 1st time. Congrats London. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tropopause_Fold Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). we probably still have a shot at a few inches if the western edge of the precip shield can scrape the region and combine with some ocean enhancement...i would think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastBayWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). True, I didn't think any precip would make it up here based on the early hours output. It does show light echoes on the simulated radar for SE New England SE of i-95, but esp. on the Cape. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). It's WAY THE F U C K EAST ....LIKE 2 TIME ZONES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 You may get a good storm yet...this whole thing today was probably good for Cape Cod in a pervserse sense. Yesterday's run would have flipped to heavy rain there. LOL For you guys to do well on the Cape most of the others in this thread (not just me far west) need to be fringed. I bet it comes back west enough for the Cape. "funny" thing is though...you take out those two ec ens runs that came west with the op...and the mean was dead on balls accurate for about 6 days, IIRC. in retrospect, we probably move too quick when we see all these different pieces of data rolling in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Allenson Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Actually, scratch that - it could have been... The worst of all time was that blown Blizzard Warning way back in January of 1987 - the one compared to the Blizzard of '78 by KTAN? Many of you were not even born; it could be worse here. Good story, man. I seem remember that one... I was a junior in high school on the NH Seacoast and I was certainly 'into' weather at that point. We may not have been in the bullseye (don't recall) but I'd guess it was forecasted to be close enough to the Seacoast to get people stirred up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Also it's more interesting for me, but it's nowhere near enough of a move for most here. Just wanted to make that clear. Still nothing to see per Leslie Nielsen even down here. I suspect when all is said and done it will be like yesterday, snow aloft over the Cape with maybe some very light stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 This is what I get for Boston stats by the way. The record is 304 days without measurable snow in 1999 into January 2000 This year so far: 291. The last day with measurable snow was March 1st Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 39/62 AT 63 hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Cape finally into spit out qpf by 66 hours but a bare fringe but it could always retro up my azz when I'm constipated. Back to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wokeupthisam Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). I think while I'm at it, I'll grab a handful of these Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logan11 Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 As I recall Feb/March 1987 was a lot lime last winter with a block and cold high just forcing it all to the south of NY and NE. But as I said ..here in ENY we did have a stellar January before the snow died. Maybe the storm John recalls came at the beginning of that thankless pattern. Good story, man. I seem remember that one... I was a junior in high school on the NH Seacoast and I was certainly 'into' weather at that point. We may not have been in the bullseye (don't recall) but I'd guess it was close enough to that are to get people stirred up.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Man, obviously we're all pretty dejected, but I feel bad for the plow guys. They've taken a huge hit so far and it doesn't look like it's going to get any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I really like to see more of a focus on that first impulse. The jump didn't get made completely at 18z but it's closer. Note the dual low centers at 42 hours. We still have that second system deep offshore under the 500mb max. I really like to see snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clinch Leatherwood Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 39/62 AT 63 hours. I really like what I see. A focus on the first pulse, and look at 60 hours. Now it's inside of 100 miles to smoking some of us. The 12z not only changed the game it took the playing field and went home. At least coastal areas are at least back to watching the game. It could end up like the Patriots jets but who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NorthShoreWx Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I'm waiting to see what the 12z/19 models say. Or maybe the 18z. The only thing that can make this epic failure of just about every model worse... would be accumulating snow on Sunday. Now the problem for the next week or so is the same crazy 500 pattern in the east. Lather rinse repeat. At least I'm not working next week...won't feel as bad about wasted time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted December 17, 2010 Author Share Posted December 17, 2010 messenger is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HIPPYVALLEY Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 It's WAY THE F U C K EAST ....LIKE 2 TIME ZONES! I hope you are getting an elephant gun from Santa to take care of this beast that is still sitting in the room with us! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DomNH Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I'm waiting to see what the 12z/19 models say. Or maybe the 18z. The only thing that can make this epic failure of just about every model worse... would be accumulating snow on Sunday. Now the problem for the next week or so is the same crazy 500 pattern in the east. Lather rinse repeat. At least I'm not working next week...won't feel as bad about wasted time. Yeah, all I've got to show for this is bare ground, tiredness, and a cold (probably from not sleeping much). Brutal, brutal year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OKpowdah Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I hope you are getting an elephant gun from Santa to take care of this beast that is still sitting in the room with us! The elephant was the warmth over the last year, not snowlessness. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dryslot Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 I think while I'm at it, I'll grab a handful of these I think these may be better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moneypitmike Posted December 17, 2010 Share Posted December 17, 2010 Snowing up through Cape Cod per the 48hr reflectivity on twister. It's a huge improvement, storm watch cancel cancel (for those in SE areas). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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