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The 'oh, who cares' 1st half of May boring ass pattern banter thread

Typhoon Tip

By Typhoon Tip,
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free_man

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BUT
CANT RULE OUT POTENTIAL FOR SEVERE WEATHER IN THE INTERIOR IF
MORE INSTABILITY IS REALIZED. THIS BEARS WATCHING. EXPECTED TEMPS
WILL REACH THE LOW/MID 70S AWAY FROM THE COAST AND IT WILL BE
BREEZY IN THE COASTAL PLAIN AS THE LOW LEVEL JET MOVES ACROSS THE
REGION.

 

That'd be a nice win, if we had a couple severe storms in WNE tomorrow.  :D

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ORH_wxman

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I certainly didn't have the velocity data, but it did look like the turning extended up into the atmosphere aways based on the video. However, it's tough with these ULL as you can get brief spin-ups too. That was a real tiny cell.

 

 

From what I remember, there was nothing obvious on radar. If the spin up is brief, fairly low-level, and small in area, then its very easy for the radar to miss it or give a very weak signal for rotation...one that wouldn't be enough to warn the cell.

 

I recall BOX investigating an F0 out in ORH county a few years back (maybe '08?)...the radar had showed almost nothing, but when they investigated the report, it turned out to be an F0 about 50-100 yards wide. The rotation had probably been smaller than the resolution of one pixel on the radar.

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weatherwiz

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Given how the llvl flow was predominately SE (if I remember correctly) and the storm movement seemed to be more southerly to northerly component llvl rotation was probably further enhanced despite weak wind fields aloft.  The flow though just off the sfc must have been pretty decent though b/c some of those llvl clouds were moving at a decent speed.  This is also likely another case of where there certainly was some sort of enhancement due to terrain and also up in that area yesterday there was a decent amount of some so there certainly had to be some instability present.     

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From what I remember, there was nothing obvious on radar. If the spin up is brief, fairly low-level, and small in area, then its very easy for the radar to miss it or give a very weak signal for rotation...one that wouldn't be enough to warn the cell.

 

I recall BOX investigating an F0 out in ORH county a few years back (maybe '08?)...the radar had showed almost nothing, but when they investigated the report, it turned out to be an F0 about 50-100 yards wide. The rotation had probably been smaller than the resolution of one pixel on the radar.

 

Yeah I don't even know if it would be a pixel. It was such a tiny cell. Just seems like a brief spin up, but I can't see the high res stuff. Maybe it did briefly have it for a scan or something. 

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Turtle

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Looks like high end EF0 per BOX.

 

 

I certainly didn't have the velocity data, but it did look like the turning extended up into the atmosphere based on the video. However, it's tough with these ULL as you can get brief spin-ups too. That was a real tiny cell.

 

From what I remember, there was nothing obvious on radar. If the spin up is brief, fairly low-level, and small in area, then its very easy for the radar to miss it or give a very weak signal for rotation...one that wouldn't be enough to warn the cell.

 

I was on the road (on vacation), so I'm not sure if they have any radar data from TBOS (FAA TDWR radar in S. Weymouth).  That would be interesting to see.

 

Given how the llvl flow was predominately SE (if I remember correctly) and the storm movement seemed to be more southerly to northerly component llvl rotation was probably further enhanced despite weak wind fields aloft.  The flow though just off the sfc must have been pretty decent though b/c some of those llvl clouds were moving at a decent speed.  This is also likely another case of where there certainly was some sort of enhancement due to terrain and also up in that area yesterday there was a decent amount of some so there certainly had to be some instability present.     

Exactly Paul.  Cells were moving S-N with some SE LL inflow off ocean, at least from what I saw at home before heading out (see my story below).

 

Channel 5 Boston had good video/still shots on their site on this, as well as JoeD on camera investigating this on the noontime cast.  They also said there was a microburst to the NE of where the tornado touched down.

 

As mentioned above, I'm on vacation this week.  Yesterday, I was heading up to Manchester, NH, for a concert.  I left the condo at around 4 PM, heading N on Route 24.  When I got up to Stoughton, there was a DELUGE, very low visibilities and massive downpour that started to flood the road!!  That is pretty good to do on the north end of 24.  Once I got through that, close to the 128/24 split, I called the office to let them know about the deluge.  I spoke with Ben, whom told me that they had a flood advisory out.  Sounded good to me, well, at that point.  After the concert, I called home.  The hub said, "Did you hear what happened??"  Of course not.  He told me, I nearly flipped, as I was near there around that time!!!

 

I watched the noon cast on Channel 5, and they showed the radar at that time.  Route 138 runs parallel to the W of Route 24, and the shot on radar was about 15 minutes before touchdown.  OMG!!!  I was in the NE end of that thing!!  And, exactly where one would expect heavy downpours given the movement of the storm (NNE as it looked to me).  I drove out of the heavy rain when I headed on to 128N, moving away (past 138 ironically) as the cell was heading to Randolph as I'm envisioning it.  

 

Hmmm, weird, huh??

 

--Turtle

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mattb65

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Here's some SNE totals for rain for wed/thurs, looks like as expected showery in nature with some areas that overperformed and others that underperformed. Most thought it would be around 0.50" for round 1 or less so in general round 1 was a bit of an over-performer. Seems like the weekend rains might be even more showery in nature so it'll be interesting to see if we tack on another 0.5" onto these totals or if it ends up being more hit or miss.

 

 

 E MA

BED 0.6

BVY 0.7

BOS 1.04

MQE 0.8

LWM 0.66

EWB 0.46

OWD 0.99

PYM 0.46

TAN 0.43

 

Central/Western

FIT 0.93

ORE 0.35

CEF 0.43

BAF 0.44

ORH 0.51

 

CT

BDL 0.47

HFD 0.61

IJD 0.98

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Ginx snewx

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Here's some SNE totals for rain for wed/thurs, looks like as expected showery in nature with some areas that overperformed and others that underperformed. Most thought it would be around 0.50" for round 1 or less so in general round 1 was a bit of an over-performer. Seems like the weekend rains might be even more showery in nature so it'll be interesting to see if we tack on another 0.5" onto these totals or if it ends up being more hit or miss.

 

 

 E MA

BED 0.6

BVY 0.7

BOS 1.04

MQE 0.8

LWM 0.66

EWB 0.46

OWD 0.99

PYM 0.46

TAN 0.43

 

Central/Western

FIT 0.93

ORE 0.35

CEF 0.43

BAF 0.44

ORH 0.51

 

CT

BDL 0.47

HFD 0.61

IJD 0.98

some reports from COCORAHS I had 1.10 at my house.

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Here's some SNE totals for rain for wed/thurs, looks like as expected showery in nature with some areas that overperformed and others that underperformed. Most thought it would be around 0.50" for round 1 or less so in general round 1 was a bit of an over-performer. Seems like the weekend rains might be even more showery in nature so it'll be interesting to see if we tack on another 0.5" onto these totals or if it ends up being more hit or miss.

 

 

 E MA

BED 0.6

BVY 0.7

BOS 1.04

MQE 0.8

LWM 0.66

EWB 0.46

OWD 0.99

PYM 0.46

TAN 0.43

 

Central/Western

FIT 0.93

ORE 0.35

CEF 0.43

BAF 0.44

ORH 0.51

 

CT

BDL 0.47

HFD 0.61

IJD 0.98

 

What a difference in eastern CT!  I had 1.01 for the event and it looks like BDL, CEF and ORH had half that.

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CT Rain

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Tomorrow certainly looks a tad interesting...could see a few isolated svr

 

It certainly does. Wind fields and shear is very impressive. Not sure how much CAPE we'll be able to muster but severe definitely a possibility NW of BDL especially. 

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Ginx snewx

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It certainly does. Wind fields and shear is very impressive. Not sure how much CAPE we'll be able to muster but severe definitely a possibility NW of BDL especially. 

they found another meteorite from the boom night, cool. Man wish it was a clear night

http://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/local/Another-Meteorite-Hits-a-Connecticut-Home-206861751.html

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free_man

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It certainly does. Wind fields and shear is very impressive. Not sure how much CAPE we'll be able to muster but severe definitely a possibility NW of BDL especially. 

Pretty cool we were looking at this a week ago, hopefully there's a window to destabilize some.

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ORH_wxman

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Agreed.  I have tomorrow off.  Will keep an eye on how much sun we get during the day to see if I practice my chasing skills around Western New England tomorrow.

 

 

If you can chase well in W SNE, then you can chase anywhere pretty much...in that sense its good practice. It might be the worst spot I've ever been around to chase storms when combining the roads with the terrain. E MA is actually a lot easier...though the storms are less interesting on the whole as they get closer to the coast.

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