ORH_wxman Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Yeah I noticed that a week ago. Tons of people stocking up on flowers. Awfully early still. Yeah average last frost for a lot of the interior of SNE is around May 6-10...and of course a bit later in some of the colder spots. Even in the torch spring of 2010, we had that historic freeze on May 11th...I think that set the record for the latest date on record that BDL got into the 20s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ginx snewx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 70% of the canopy blooming. Oddly swamp maples which are usually first are bare. Way too dry I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 70% of the canopy blooming. Oddly swamp maples which are usually first are bare. Way too dry I guess. The hardwoods definitely have slowed there leafout this week..probably due to the much cooler wx, but I did notice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joey2002 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Quickly dropping into the 40s again tonight... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 seems like the Honey Locust were the last to leaf out this year...or at least this year was the first year i ever noticed they leaf out after the Oaks...47 degrees and dropping Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Stratus wasted no time racing into SE CT. No fog but low CIGs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sugarloaf1989 Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 43F here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 The PL/GR sensors are out there in the ASOS plans, but I'm not sure what happened. I believe they work with acoustics as the frozen precip "pings" and creates specific frequencies to distinguish them from other forms of precip. FZRA sensors are already out there now. My concern is that implementation won't be universal. So does GYX get new sensors at PWM only? PWM and CON? That still leaves vast areas of the CWA uncovered. Overall I just worry that the people making the decisions have no clue what is important and what isn't. It's all about pet projects and buzz worthy endeavors rather than actual useful, operational tools. For a local example, we have started up the second year of our lakes recreational forecasts that include wave heights on Winnipesaukee and Sebago. Well there is a chron that runs the SWAN (simulating waves nearshore) model off of our local WRF a couple times a day. We have tools that then allow us to populate the lake wave heights with one button (minimal human input). However, the local WRF has crashed. That means no SWAN run, and no wave height data for the lakes. We also had no back up method to produce lake waves, as we had removed it to reduce the workload. Luckily our ITO was able to come in and re-create a tool to generate lake waves off of our forecast wind grids that can be manually run. Oh, and the ITO is one of the proposed cuts...again. But I digress, time to watch the stratus to see if it can't lift into the NNE coast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 My concern is that implementation won't be universal. So does GYX get new sensors at PWM only? PWM and CON? That still leaves vast areas of the CWA uncovered. Overall I just worry that the people making the decisions have no clue what is important and what isn't. It's all about pet projects and buzz worthy endeavors rather than actual useful, operational tools. For a local example, we have started up the second year of our lakes recreational forecasts that include wave heights on Winnipesaukee and Sebago. Well there is a chron that runs the SWAN (simulating waves nearshore) model off of our local WRF a couple times a day. We have tools that then allow us to populate the lake wave heights with one button (minimal human input). However, the local WRF has crashed. That means no SWAN run, and no wave height data for the lakes. We also had no back up method to produce lake waves, as we had removed it to reduce the workload. Luckily our ITO was able to come in and re-create a tool to generate lake waves off of our forecast wind grids that can be manually run. Oh, and the ITO is one of the proposed cuts...again. But I digress, time to watch the stratus to see if it can't lift into the NNE coast. Moving in pretty fast here. No fog at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Moving in pretty fast here. No fog at least. At its current speed it would reach our southern zones around dawn, but we'll see if some acceleration takes place with continued nocturnal cooling of the boundary layer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CT Rain Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 At its current speed it would reach our southern zones around dawn, but we'll see if some acceleration takes place with continued nocturnal cooling of the boundary layer. I'm heading to BOX tomorrow to do a story on the furloughs for NWS employees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OceanStWx Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 I'm heading to BOX tomorrow to do a story on the furloughs for NWS employees. The local media outlets are really the ones doing the grunt work to get the word out. After all most people don't care about the cuts, until they know how it will affect them personally. I think most people assume the local OCMs' jobs won't be affected by the degradation of data/services either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 We just need SNOWTEL systems all over New England. I've read a decent bit on their importance to western ski areas regarding avalanche control in ski area trade magazines. They are pretty darn accurate with snowfall, snow depth, liquid equiv, but the draw back is they don't really work as well when caribrated for tenths of an inch in snowfall. A dream of mine would be to have automated snowfall reports on Mansfield, Haha. I hate how unreliable and low the COOP measurements are (more a collection method issue) but as much as I try to get an accurate measure, I cant be up there all the time (as much as it seems I am)...it would be sweet to have hourly snowfall measurements upload online like the ski resorts out west. Especially for those times when you are expecting a dusting and instead get 10" when the orographic machine turns on out of no where...like most recently April 2 this year was forecast scattered snow showers but ended up with a 5-hour burst averaging over 2 per hour overnight. Would've been fun to watch that remotely. In the end better spotter networks will be the way to go with observations...just need to rely on scientific public who want to help out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 LOL at Saranac Lake almost making a 50 degree diurnal spread under clear skies. Past 24 hour high/low is 78/30. Winter in the morning, summer in the afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Pretty raw out there this AM. Low 40's, cloudy, and a little drizzle too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 We just need SNOWTEL systems all over New England. I've read a decent bit on their importance to western ski areas regarding avalanche control in ski area trade magazines. They are pretty darn accurate with snowfall, snow depth, liquid equiv, but the draw back is they don't really work as well when caribrated for tenths of an inch in snowfall. A dream of mine would be to have automated snowfall reports on Mansfield, Haha. I hate how unreliable and low the COOP measurements are (more a collection method issue) but as much as I try to get an accurate measure, I cant be up there all the time (as much as it seems I am)...it would be sweet to have hourly snowfall measurements upload online like the ski resorts out west. Especially for those times when you are expecting a dusting and instead get 10" when the orographic machine turns on out of no where...like most recently April 2 this year was forecast scattered snow showers but ended up with a 5-hour burst averaging over 2 per hour overnight. Would've been fun to watch that remotely. In the end better spotter networks will be the way to go with observations...just need to rely on scientific public who want to help out. The ultrasonic sensors are decent for hard to reach mountain locations and for snow depth, but like you mentioned, the accuracy can struggle with tenths of an inch and new snow can be problematic since you're measuring on top of the old base. The accuracy is also reduced in high ratio snow. I've read that laser sensors do a better job with fluff, but I haven't played around with them. There's some home stations that have made some Macgyvered laser snow depth sensors out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherwiz Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Does the 6z GFS really have a dry fropa on Sunday with the only precip associated with a weak wave of low pressure on Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Windcredible! Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Pretty tired of onshore flow. But we've struggled to get beyond 62 or so the past week while inland basks in 70+. We had a few decent days earlier last week...but when that seabreeze moves in around 5-6 the temps plummeted making for chilly baseball games/practices. Of course I know it could be worse...and at least we've had full sunshine and the annual cutoff from hell got stuck in the Plains this year instead of over SNE...but still, ready to at least get into some persistent mid-upper 60's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Where is the rain? OKX dries up Tuesday partly sunny after patchy fog, what a fail this weeks rain is going to be, dry begets dry, and now its going to get fo real ya'll Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 dustbowl day after day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weathafella Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Last big chill early next week? Looks like an increasingly warmer signal thereafter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Where is the rain? OKX dries up Tuesday partly sunny after patchy fog, what a fail this weeks rain is going to be, dry begets dry, and now its going to get fo real ya'll Wednesday is when the rain comes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Where is the rain? OKX dries up Tuesday partly sunny after patchy fog, what a fail this weeks rain is going to be, dry begets dry, and now its going to get fo real ya'llTue was supposed to rain? Everything looks on par to me this morning. Enjoy your rain this week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Man, .25 of rain will not do JACK, then we turn the oven up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Wednesday is when the rain comes.Nah. It may never rain again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Tue was supposed to rain? Everything looks on par to me this morning. Enjoy your rain this week. Doom and gloomers portrayed a week long rain and drizzle event, looks like one day of diurnal showers, today tomorrow and Thursday and Friday all san diego sunsations. It will be spun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ORH_wxman Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nah. It may never rain again. Good shot at rain later in the week too with the system passing just NW of us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Torchey Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Nearing 6 inhces below normal since March 1. Light showers just don't cut it, we now play catch up the rest of spring and summer, this could potentially be a huge issue down the road. I fear the drought of 2013 has shifted east and is imminent time will tell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Doom and gloomers portrayed a week long rain and drizzle event, looks like one day of diurnal showers, today tomorrow and Thursday and Friday all san diego sunsations. It will be spun. lol...I haven't seen anyone post that. But the Euro has 2"+ for you d2-7 and even the ens mean has 1.5"+ for you d2-7. Make it your best rain ever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baroclinic Zone Posted May 6, 2013 Share Posted May 6, 2013 Where is the rain? OKX dries up Tuesday partly sunny after patchy fog, what a fail this weeks rain is going to be, dry begets dry, and now its going to get fo real ya'll Let's see how this verifies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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