Subtropics Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Chilly. Where is spring? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amped Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Now if it could still stay this much below normal till the end of September, that'd be great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Chilly. Where is spring? we're only running 4.1 degrees above normal this month after today ...where is the heat! today is awesome Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snownut Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Low 31.9 here in Boyce this morning. Ditto other posters perfect spring weather, did some yard work now off to Blandy Farm to walk the dog and see what is blooming there. This is my ideal weather for the non winter season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Kinda chilly. Had to wear my jacket today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Today is fine if you're in the sun. It's kind of chilly in the shade. That said, it was a great day to mow the lawn and get in the garden a little. Can't wait to get out there at the end of this week and get the summer planting done... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disc Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Lawn went crazy after the rain and cloudy weather we had last week. Good day to mow it and get it looking neat again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoda Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 LWX tosses up Frost advisories along the BR and into NE MD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted April 21, 2013 Share Posted April 21, 2013 Really nice out when it is dead calm. Sitting in the backyard right now. 53.9. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Everyone is whining about frost but the last freeze at Dulles on avg is the 21st. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickinBaltimore Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Pleasant day today I'd say. Boys were running around like crazy ones in the yard all afternoon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mappy Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Today is fine if you're in the sun. It's kind of chilly in the shade. That said, it was a great day to mow the lawn and get in the garden a little. Can't wait to get out there at the end of this week and get the summer planting done... Yeah, it was a little chilly in the shade, bit still a nice day. We took the little one for a nice long walk in the afternoon. Not sure who loved it more, her or the dog haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowfan Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Got sunburn today from being on the riding mower at the in laws most of the day. This is perfect spring weather because sun angle makes 55 feel much warmer than it really is. Looks like we don't get above 70 the entire week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MDstorm Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 we're only running 4.1 degrees above normal this month after today ...where is the heat! April looks to play out as bookend cool with a lot of warmth in the middle. The way above normal will certainly take a beating over the 7-10 days. Brrrrr MDstorm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 36.6 on the low, but still a little of frost on the car top. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Not as heavy a frost this am compared to yesterday, although overnight lows almost matched, 29.5 this am vs 29.1 yesterday. Currently 31.4. No frost/freeze warnings issued, growing season doesn't 'officially' start until 25th through May 4th per NWS depending on elevation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Yeah, it was a little chilly in the shade, bit still a nice day. We took the little one for a nice long walk in the afternoon. Not sure who loved it more, her or the dog haha We took ours out, but the wind made her a little cranky. The dog was loving it though! 36.6 on the low, but still a little of frost on the car top. Lots of frost on elevated surfaces in my neighborhood. It was 36 when I left at around 6:30, and it probably didn't go any lower. Still...chilly enough that I decided not to put my plants outside. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Everyone is whining about frost but the last freeze at Dulles on avg is the 21st. Average last sub-32 is right around now, but the average last hard freeze (sub-28) is around April 7. A freeze sucks for gardeners and can cause decent damage, but hard freezes are out to destroy all the hard work they put into getting their plants ready for the spring and summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H2O Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I had to flip the heat back on in the house this morning. It was a bit too chilly getting dressed. Still nice wx coming up for the next couple days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I had to flip the heat back on in the house this morning. It was a bit too chilly getting dressed. Still nice wx coming up for the next couple days. I also have had to flip our heat on the last three mornings. Ridiculously cold in the mornings recently. Average high is 70 degrees and more this week. Looks below normal the rest of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Interesting how much cold air has been around this spring. I see that Denver is getting another snow storm. Not unusual for them this time of year, but the number of snowstorms and the amount of cold air has been remarkable. I think they've shattered some record lows the last few weeks. What do you guys think of May? At least the first half for us seems at or a little below normal for temps. Not seeing any sustained heat signals so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Interesting how much cold air has been around this spring. I see that Denver is getting another snow storm. Not unusual for them this time of year, but the number of snowstorms and the amount of cold air has been remarkable. I think they've shattered some record lows the last few weeks. What do you guys think of May? At least the first half for us seems at or a little below normal for temps. Not seeing any sustained heat signals so far. Going to snow again in Minneapolis this evening. The pattern up there is going to break by this weekend, but it has been nasty and locked in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'd probably go equal chances, though persistence says above based on the last 3 May's...we tend to cluster in 3's so this could be the flip year..we haven't had a super cold May since 2005....a lot depends on cloud cover and rain...I'd guess it is our cloudiest month of the year....but I don't know that...maybe someone has those stats...so...equal chances I would agree with equal chances, if not leaning towards the warm side. Our region is one of the few areas that are above normal for April and will probably finish that way. The start of May looks mostly variable in the eastern U.S. and could lean a little in either direction but probably not towards any extremes. What concerns me with the warm risks is the upper-level ridge that is starting to show up in May over the central U.S. (on the European Ensemble). As we get deeper into May, the large scale wavelengths start to get longer again, which could allow the central U.S. ridging to expand eastward if it does indeed develop and sustain itself. However, with storm tracks as favorable as they have been recently, it would seem a more variable pattern across the central and eastern U.S. is more likely at this time. Teleconnections have been shaky and are giving off mixed signals in the medium to long range, so forecast confidence is meager at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WinterWxLuvr Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Average last sub-32 is right around now, but the average last hard freeze (sub-28) is around April 7. A freeze sucks for gardeners and can cause decent damage, but hard freezes are out to destroy all the hard work they put into getting their plants ready for the spring and summer. I've never thought there was a real rush on planting, other than just the itch to do it. Wait until early May and you won't likely have problems. Plant early and you risk just what you mentioned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 The only thing that matters is that we get a EC ridge to lock in about the third week of May. Before that it can snow for all I care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'd probably go equal chances, though persistence says above based on the last 3 May's...we tend to cluster in 3's so this could be the flip year..we haven't had a super cold May since 2005....a lot depends on cloud cover and rain...I'd guess it is our cloudiest month of the year....but I don't know that...maybe someone has those stats...so...equal chances That's interesting. I wouldn't have pegged May as being our cloudiest month of the year, but it's possible. My guess would be April for the cloudiest month, what with cutoff lows and backdoor fronts during the early spring. One thing I've noticed so far this spring (and I hope I'm not jinxing things) - to this point, we have not had cutoff lows meandering over us for days like we sometimes do in the spring. One of those can easily give us a week of clouds and below normal temps in the spring. We also haven't had too much in the way of fronts getting stuck over our area. Even the backdoor fronts have come through (or pushed back north) pretty quickly. One of the sunnier April's we have had, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Chill Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 Going to snow again in Minneapolis this evening. The pattern up there is going to break by this weekend, but it has been nasty and locked in place. April behaved pretty predictably once the intense blocking pattern finally broke down. Heat came on quicker than we thought but the lw pattern in the east was typical following a long duration strong blocking event. March broke the record for the AO since coming in @ -3.176. The previous was set in 1962 @ -2.848. My wag would be a good mix going forward into mid may with the averages coming in close to normal. There are some indications on it actually being cooler than normal but it's awful tough to hedge that way in May in DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I'd probably go equal chances, though persistence says above based on the last 3 May's...we tend to cluster in 3's so this could be the flip year..we haven't had a super cold May since 2005....a lot depends on cloud cover and rain...I'd guess it is our cloudiest month of the year....but I don't know that...maybe someone has those stats...so...equal chances Per http://www.ncdc.noaa.gov/oa/climate/online/ccd/cldy.html (stats are only through 2002): On average, May at National Airport has seven clear days, 10 partly cloudy days, and 14 cloudy days, which is tied with July for the most non-clear days. In terms of months, here's the breakdown of non-clear days (total [PC, cloudy]): Jan: 23 (7, 16) Feb: 22 (7, 15) Mar: 23 (8, 15) Apr: 23 (9, 14) May: 24 (10, 14) Jun: 22 (11, 11) Jul: 24 (12, 12) Aug: 22 (10, 12) Sep: 20 (8, 12) Oct: 20 (8, 12) Nov: 22 (8, 14) Dec: 23 (7, 16) There are a few months that don't add up to the correct number of days in the month, so I don't know how reliable these stats are. And I'm also not sure exactly what constitutes clear, partly cloudy, and cloudy. I wonder if Rodney would know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 I would agree with equal chances, if not leaning towards the warm side. Our region is one of the few areas that are above normal for April and will probably finish that way. The start of May looks mostly variable in the eastern U.S. and could lean a little in either direction but probably not towards any extremes. What concerns me with the warm risks is the upper-level ridge that is starting to show up in May over the central U.S. (on the European Ensemble). As we get deeper into May, the large scale wavelengths start to get longer again, which could allow the central U.S. ridging to expand eastward if it does indeed develop and sustain itself. However, with storm tracks as favorable as they have been recently, it would seem a more variable pattern across the central and eastern U.S. is more likely at this time. Teleconnections have been shaky and are giving off mixed signals in the medium to long range, so forecast confidence is meager at best. "Variable" has been the story for April so far, but that's pretty typical. We've had fewer above-normal days than below, but the above normal days have had a much larger deviation from average than the below days. It'll be interesting to see if modeled central US ridging comes to pass, and if it becomes persistent. That would certainly be a pattern change from what it has been the last several weeks for that part of the country. If that is what sets up for summer, that would probably argue for some warmer than average here at times, but also some cooler shots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 22, 2013 Share Posted April 22, 2013 "Variable" has been the story for April so far, but that's pretty typical. We've had fewer above-normal days than below, but the above normal days have had a much larger deviation from average than the below days. It'll be interesting to see if modeled central US ridging comes to pass, and if it becomes persistent. That would certainly be a pattern change from what it has been the last several weeks for that part of the country. If that is what sets up for summer, that would probably argue for some warmer than average here at times, but also some cooler shots. DCA has had 6 belows and IAD 7 thru yesterday. I think the last few springs have tainted people's thoughts about spring. When we get a random +20 people think that's what March/April is supposed to be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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