powderfreak Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I will be on my way up to move to VT in the middle of next week! My apartment will be in Winooski (just outside BTV). Nice! Congrats. Will you be right near the rotary in the center of Winooski? Breakfast at Sneakers is the right way to start the day up there too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Already 57F following a low of 34F. MOS has 72/73 for CON so I think we'll finish around the 70F mark. Looks like another nose bleeder with dews mixing down near the U20s in the afternoon. Looks like an awesome week of Spring weather. Leaf out should be rapid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eekuasepinniW Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 This is the latest my magnolia x loebneri 'leonard messel' has gone without reaching full bloom. Worst spring since 2003. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Already 57F following a low of 34F. MOS has 72/73 for CON so I think we'll finish around the 70F mark. Looks like another nose bleeder with dews mixing down near the U20s in the afternoon. Looks like an awesome week of Spring weather. Leaf out should be rapid.Yeah the rise in temps has been impressive...From a low of 27F to 63F at 11am...like 35F in 4-5 hours. The hourlies are like 28, 37, 48, 55, 63....Im assuming it will start leveling out soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Was just looking back at some of my numbers for this date since I moved here... 2009 max: 90F 2010 max: 41F I'll take today's ~70F over both of those, tyvm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Was just looking back at some of my numbers for this date since I moved here... 2009 max: 90F 2010 max: 41F I'll take today's ~70F over both of those, tyvm. Today is literally perfect. 66.8/31, can't ask for any better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Today is literally perfect. 66.8/31, can't ask for any better. I second that. 73F/30F here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Max/min was 69.3/34.0. Starting to see the first leaf out on the early trees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Max/min was 69.3/34.0. Starting to see the first leaf out on the early trees. this past week at work i noticed the oak buds are kickin it into high gear...they are the last to pop so now everything is growing...now i have to put a little more effort into where to put my ALB traps...was originally easy because the maples pop first, all i had to do was a quick look at the canopy and i could easily pick out the Maples...now I actually have to put my tree ID skills to work... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 I second that. 73F/30F here. Reminds me... three years ago you would not have enjoyed the weather outside your window on this date. I'm sure you know this lawn behind your parking area... I remember jumping out of bed when I woke up and saw that it was already snowing. The forecast called for rain to change to snow but not nearly as quickly as it happened. At the end of April you sort of assume the valley will take some time to change over, but not this system which was getting some nice NW flow cooling assist. It was just a soaking wet snow for a while, but did get drier throughout the day. We got about 6" during the day on the 27th then another like 2-3" overnight into the 28th in Jonesville at 300ft. This radar image from J.Spin's website was just a little prior to the above two pictures when the rain changed to snow even in the valleys. Quite an unimpressive looking storm (as upslope-favored events can be) region wide, but turned into one of the largest late season snowstorm on record. We *only* had a storm total of 8" or so in Jonesville down in the RT 2 corridor on April 27-28, 2010. This photo is from Stage Road on the morning of the 28th...right behind the Post Office and just up the hill under the Interstate...we lost power for a good bit in this storm. But literally a few hundred feet higher up the road at that 800ft+ elevation band (not far from a certain West Bolton/Nashville resident) there was like two feet when it was all said and done. I love the green leaves on the trees. This was such an obscene event for April 28th. We had snow cover on May 1st. A true Birch Bender. Jonesville, in the valley at 300ft on the last day of April, 2010 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 28, 2013 Share Posted April 28, 2013 Speaking of that April 27-28, 2010 event... that was one heck of an under-rated storm. Even BTV had 5-6" outside of the cooling affects of upslope. It was one of those classic NW flow events where the forecasts kept increasing, and increasing, as the event went on. Its funny how hard those are to predict but every once in a while, you get those upslope events that just seem to come together and exceed expectations as the power of the Green Mountains gets tapped. I love how these events evolve when the upslope really comes together... its hard to bite sometimes on what models like the 4km NAM or BTV WRF spit out, but this was one of those events that just went to town. A huge over-producer when you look at the initial forecast and the final forecast. From J.Spin's weather archives, here are the watches/warning and snowfall forecast evolutions... Comparing that last map to the first map, quite the difference in forecast and impact. But I think 9 out of 10 times (or 10 out of 10) you play snow events in late April conservatively, lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N. OF PIKE Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What an awesome late season dump that was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Reminds me... three years ago you would not have enjoyed the weather outside your window on this date. I'm sure you know this lawn behind your parking area... I remember jumping out of bed when I woke up and saw that it was already snowing. The forecast called for rain to change to snow but not nearly as quickly as it happened. At the end of April you sort of assume the valley will take some time to change over, but not this system which was getting some nice NW flow cooling assist. It was just a soaking wet snow for a while, but did get drier throughout the day. We got about 6" during the day on the 27th then another like 2-3" overnight into the 28th in Jonesville at 300ft. This radar image from J.Spin's website was just a little prior to the above two pictures when the rain changed to snow even in the valleys. Quite an unimpressive looking storm (as upslope-favored events can be) region wide, but turned into one of the largest late season snowstorm on record. We *only* had a storm total of 8" or so in Jonesville down in the RT 2 corridor on April 27-28, 2010. This photo is from Stage Road on the morning of the 28th...right behind the Post Office and just up the hill under the Interstate...we lost power for a good bit in this storm. But literally a few hundred feet higher up the road at that 800ft+ elevation band (not far from a certain West Bolton/Nashville resident) there was like two feet when it was all said and done. I love the green leaves on the trees. This was such an obscene event for April 28th. We had snow cover on May 1st. A true Birch Bender. Jonesville, in the valley at 300ft on the last day of April, 2010 Ah yes, what a nightmare (haha although it was definitely a novelty and interesting event, and that was when I was still over in Lyndonville and liked snow and winter a bit more!). The real surprising part was just how much snow accumulated in the lower elevations, including Burlington! I think we had 8-10" over in Lyndon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ah yes, what a nightmare (haha although it was definitely a novelty and interesting event, and that was when I was still over in Lyndonville and liked snow and winter a bit more!). The real surprising part was just how much snow accumulated in the lower elevations, including Burlington! I think we had 8-10" over in Lyndon. ********************STORM TOTAL SNOWFALL********************LOCATION STORM TOTAL TIME/DATE COMMENTS SNOWFALL OF (INCHES) MEASUREMENTNEW YORK...CLINTON COUNTY... DANNEMORA 19.5 1115 AM 4/28 PUBLIC LYON MOUNTAIN 15.5 747 AM 4/28 MEDIA CHAMPLAIN 7.0 624 PM 4/28 SPOTTER ROUSES POINT 5.0 625 PM 4/28 SPOTTER PERU 4.1 ESE 3.6 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS...ESSEX COUNTY... WHITEFACE MTN 13.0 619 PM 4/28 SPOTTER LAKE PLACID 2 S 9.0 618 PM 4/28 COOP NEWCOMB 3.6 905 AM 4/28 COOP MORIAH 3.0 553 AM 4/28 PUBLIC...FRANKLIN COUNTY... CHASM FALLS 18.3 744 AM 4/28 MEDIA MALONE 14.0 550 AM 4/28 COOP WHIPPLEVILLE 11.6 635 AM 4/28 SPOTTER ONCHIOTA 0.3 ENE 3.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS SARANAC LAKE 2.5 621 PM 4/28 SPOTTER...ST. LAWRENCE COUNTY... SOUTH COLTON 14.0 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO HANNAWA FALLS 0.1 SW 7.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS CHILDWOLD 7.0 621 PM 4/28 SPOTTER OSWEGATCHIE 5.5 621 PM 4/28 SPOTTER POTSDAM 5.0 606 AM 4/28 NORFOLK 2.0 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO EDWARDS 1.5 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO OGDENSBURG 0.5 622 PM 4/28 SPOTTERVERMONT...ADDISON COUNTY... SOUTH LINCOLN 12.0 623 PM 4/28 SPOTTER CORNWALL 4.0 816 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SALISBURY 2 N 4.0 400 PM 4/28 COOP...CALEDONIA COUNTY... WALDEN 20.0 300 PM 4/28 SPOTTER WATERFORD 18.0 1033 AM 4/28 SPOTTER HARDWICK 0.1 ENE 16.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS STANNARD 14.3 1059 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WALDEN 13.6 700 AM 4/28 COOP WATERFORD 13.0 1130 AM 4/28 PUBLIC LYNDONVILLE 11.5 930 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SUTTON 11.1 705 AM 4/28 COOP SHEFFIELD 2.8 NNW 11.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS SAINT JOHNSBURY 10.2 400 PM 4/28 COOP PEACHAM 10.0 635 AM 4/28 SPOTTER LYNDONVILLE 1.1 W 8.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS GROTON 4.4 WSW 4.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS...CHITTENDEN COUNTY... NASHVILLE 1 E 23.5 200 PM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE NORTH UNDERHILL 23.5 317 PM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE JERICHO 17.0 805 AM 4/28 SPOTTER HUNTINGTON 1.1 E 14.8 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WESTFORD 14.7 626 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE HANKSVILLE 10.3 700 AM 4/28 COOP WILLISTON VILLAGE 10.0 726 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WILLISTON 8.5 821 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ESSEX JUNCTION 1 N 7.5 800 PM 4/28 COOP ESSEX CENTER 7.0 940 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ESSEX CENTER 6.8 720 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE SOUTH BURLINGTON 5.5 150 PM 4/28 NWS OFFICE CHARLOTTE 2.9 NNE 2.7 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS...ESSEX COUNTY... ISLAND POND 4.0 850 AM 4/28 COOP...FRANKLIN COUNTY... SHELDON SPRINGS 16.5 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO RICHFORD 14.5 730 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SAINT ALBANS 13.0 541 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE ENOSBURG FALLS 2 12.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP HIGHGATE 10.0 650 AM 4/28 SPOTTER SWANTON 6.1 700 AM 4/28 SPOTTER...GRAND ISLE COUNTY... ISLE LA MOTTE 3.5 625 PM 4/28 SPOTTER SOUTH HERO 2.0 624 PM 4/28 SPOTTER...LAMOILLE COUNTY... JEFFERSONVILLE 24.3 148 PM 4/28 SPOTTER EDEN 2 S 21.0 1240 PM 4/28 COOP MOUNT MANSFIELD 21.0 400 PM 4/28 COOP PLEASANT VALLEY 20.0 1135 AM 4/28 SPOTTER JEFFERSONVILLE 19.0 832 AM 4/28 COOP STOWE 0.2 SW 7.4 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS STOWE 6.5 830 AM 4/28 SPOTTER...ORANGE COUNTY... CHELSEA 2 NW 3.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP CORINTH 1.3 700 AM 4/28 COOP STRAFFORD 1.0 830 AM 4/28 SPOTTER...ORLEANS COUNTY... GREENSBORO BEND 15.2 632 PM 4/28 SPOTTER BROWNINGTON 12.0 1212 PM 4/28 SPOTTER BARTON 11.5 800 AM 4/28 SPOTTER BARTON 3.0 ENE 10.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS DERBY CENTER 1.8 NW 10.0 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WESTFIELD 0.7 WNW 8.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS NEWPORT 7.5 700 AM 4/28 COOP MORGAN 6.7 SE 7.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS MORGAN 7.0 625 AM 4/28 SPOTTER...RUTLAND COUNTY... RUTLAND 1.4 700 AM 4/28 COOP...WASHINGTON COUNTY... CALAIS 19.0 1045 AM 4/28 SPOTTER CABOT 3.9 ENE 18.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS NORTH CALAIS 16.0 945 AM 4/28 SPOTTER MARSHFIELD 4.5 SW 11.5 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WATERBURY CENTER 10.5 845 AM 4/28 SPOTTER WATERBURY CENTER 9.0 730 AM 4/28 AMATEUR RADIO NORTHFIELD 3 W 8.2 1110 AM 4/28 NWS EMPLOYEE WATERBURY 4.6 NNE 8.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS PLAINFIELD 8.0 730 AM 4/28 COOP WATERBURY 3.0 NW 6.1 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS WAITSFIELD 2 W 3.0 700 AM 4/28 COOP NORTHFIELD 1.0 710 AM 4/28 COOP...WINDSOR COUNTY... LUDLOW 0.5 WSW 1.3 700 AM 4/28 COCORAHS BETHEL 4 N T 700 AM 4/28 COOP CAVENDISH T 700 AM 4/28 COOP NORTH HARTLAND LAKE T 700 AM 4/28 COOP ROCHESTER T 700 AM 4/28 COOP WOODSTOCK T 700 AM 4/28 COOP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Ah yes, what a nightmare (haha although it was definitely a novelty and interesting event, and that was when I was still over in Lyndonville and liked snow and winter a bit more!). The real surprising part was just how much snow accumulated in the lower elevations, including Burlington! I think we had 8-10" over in Lyndon. I find that event fascinating because it was obviously NW flow upslope enhanced, however, it still bombed areas of the NEK like Lyndon that don't usually do well with that wind flow. Usually if there is a set up that brings 20"+ to the usual west slope suspects like North Underhill, Jeffersonville, Nashville, West Bolton, etc, then it's not snowing big in the NEK. It makes me think about what the Froude numbers were, as there was obviously blocking going on. But what is also interesting to me is that Stowe Village was down sloped relative to what happened on the west slope. I was looking through my pictures and it looks like Mansfield had 26" on Stowe's twerrain above 3000ft (coop had 21", which is at least in the ballpark), though pics show not much snow in the Stowe village area (PNS shows 6-8") which would indicate down sloping given comparable 700ft+ elevations on west side had 20+. That would make me think Froude numbers were in that 0.5 value area...but doesn't explain the NEK big snows. The precip pattern looks like a widespread synoptic event but with orographic undertones, lol. Really odd because by the look of spots further south in the Orange Heights, snowfall was quite low, but one county north snowfall really ramps up north of I-89, not necessarily an upslope signature. It's almost like there was an upslope event going on while NEK got hit with a developing CCB from the low to the northeast of the region. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I find that event fascinating because it was obviously NW flow upslope enhanced, however, it still bombed areas of the NEK like Lyndon that don't usually do well with that wind flow. Usually if there is a set up that brings 20"+ to the usual west slope suspects like North Underhill, Jeffersonville, Nashville, West Bolton, etc, then it's not snowing big in the NEK. It makes me think about what the Froude numbers were, as there was obviously blocking going on. But what is also interesting to me is that Stowe Village was down sloped relative to what happened on the west slope. I was looking through my pictures and it looks like Mansfield had 26" on Stowe's twerrain above 3000ft (coop had 21", which is at least in the ballpark), though pics show not much snow in the Stowe village area (PNS shows 6-8") which would indicate down sloping given comparable 700ft+ elevations on west side had 20+. That would make me think Froude numbers were in that 0.5 value area...but doesn't explain the NEK big snows. The precip pattern looks like a widespread synoptic event but with orographic undertones, lol. Really odd because by the look of spots further south in the Orange Heights, snowfall was quite low, but one county north snowfall really ramps up north of I-89, not necessarily an upslope signature. It's almost like there was an upslope event going on while NEK got hit with a developing CCB from the low to the northeast of the region. I would think you have it correct right there. It was likely a synoptic event with NW flow continuing behind it, allowing the upslope blocked flow to persist after the main precipitation shield moved east. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I would think you have it correct right there. It was likely a synoptic event with NW flow continuing behind it, allowing the upslope blocked flow to persist after the main precipitation shield moved east. Here you have it, looks like a coastal low that probably initially favored the NEK as it bombed out, with upslope continuing behind it in the NW flow following it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 I would think you have it correct right there. It was likely a synoptic event with NW flow continuing behind it, allowing the upslope blocked flow to persist after the main precipitation shield moved east. I find that event fascinating because it was obviously NW flow upslope enhanced, however, it still bombed areas of the NEK like Lyndon that don't usually do well with that wind flow. Usually if there is a set up that brings 20"+ to the usual west slope suspects like North Underhill, Jeffersonville, Nashville, West Bolton, etc, then it's not snowing big in the NEK. It makes me think about what the Froude numbers were, as there was obviously blocking going on. But what is also interesting to me is that Stowe Village was down sloped relative to what happened on the west slope. I was looking through my pictures and it looks like Mansfield had 26" on Stowe's twerrain above 3000ft (coop had 21", which is at least in the ballpark), though pics show not much snow in the Stowe village area (PNS shows 6-8") which would indicate down sloping given comparable 700ft+ elevations on west side had 20+. That would make me think Froude numbers were in that 0.5 value area...but doesn't explain the NEK big snows. The precip pattern looks like a widespread synoptic event but with orographic undertones, lol. Really odd because by the look of spots further south in the Orange Heights, snowfall was quite low, but one county north snowfall really ramps up north of I-89, not necessarily an upslope signature. It's almost like there was an upslope event going on while NEK got hit with a developing CCB from the low to the northeast of the region. If you view this radar loop, it looks like that assumption is correct. The developing band from the coastal clobbered the NEK followed by the wrap around upslope. http://locust.mmm.ucar.edu/imagearchive/popup1.html?date=20100428&prefix=RadarComposites/new_england/20100&suffix=0.gif&longstring=new_england_20100&all_middles=428/$428000%20428/$428003%20428/$428010%20428/$428013%20428/$428020%20428/$428023%20428/$428030%20428/$428033%20428/$428040%20428/$428043%20428/$428050%20428/$428053%20428/$428060%20428/$428063%20428/$428070%20428/$428073%20428/$428080%20428/$428083%20428/$428090%20428/$428093%20428/$428100%20428/$428103%20428/$428110%20428/$428113%20428/$428120%20428/$428123%20428/$428130%20428/$428133%20428/$428140%20428/$428143%20428/$428150%20428/$428153%20428/$428160%20428/$428163%20428/$428170%20428/$428173%20428/$428180%20428/$428183%20428/$428190%20428/$428193%20428/$428200%20428/$428203%20428/$428210%20428/$428213%20428/$428220%20428/$428223%20428/$428230%20428/$428233 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eyewall Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Nice! Congrats. Will you be right near the rotary in the center of Winooski? Breakfast at Sneakers is the right way to start the day up there too. It is walkable to downtown but just a little outside of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Had a gorgeous 68/27 yesterday, and 29 or 30 this morning. Forsythia blossoms about halfway open, and the bush will flower all over (instead of only under the January snow line) for the 3rd time in 15 years here, as last winter never hit the magic -20. Some slight greening on the willows, and given the run of 60s being forecast, I expect to see the quaking aspen follow suit this week. Maple leaves are two weeks away, though red maple blossoms are out in full. Looks like it will be pretty much an average timing for leaf-out, so far. Moosehead had considerable ice at the south end last Saturday, and was open in Rockwood, thanks to the Moose River. A bit to the north, Seboomook was mostly ice covered, and the south branch of the Penobscot was too high for the fishing to be any good. (As we left Pittston Farm Saturday, the river had dropped - less water being released at Canada Falls - but too late for the trout-chasers.) Ground is about 1/3 snowcovered there, but only in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nittany88 Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 It is walkable to downtown but just a little outside of it. As long as you're not down by the railroad tracks (River, Allen, Canal Streets). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
powderfreak Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 If you view this radar loop, it looks like that assumption is correct. The developing band from the coastal clobbered the NEK followed by the wrap around upslope. http://locust.mmm.ucar.edu/imagearchive/popup1.html?date=20100428&prefix=RadarComposites/new_england/20100&suffix=0.gif&longstring=new_england_20100&all_middles=428/$428000%20428/$428003%20428/$428010%20428/$428013%20428/$428020%20428/$428023%20428/$428030%20428/$428033%20428/$428040%20428/$428043%20428/$428050%20428/$428053%20428/$428060%20428/$428063%20428/$428070%20428/$428073%20428/$428080%20428/$428083%20428/$428090%20428/$428093%20428/$428100%20428/$428103%20428/$428110%20428/$428113%20428/$428120%20428/$428123%20428/$428130%20428/$428133%20428/$428140%20428/$428143%20428/$428150%20428/$428153%20428/$428160%20428/$428163%20428/$428170%20428/$428173%20428/$428180%20428/$428183%20428/$428190%20428/$428193%20428/$428200%20428/$428203%20428/$428210%20428/$428213%20428/$428220%20428/$428223%20428/$428230%20428/$428233 Awesome radar loop and reanalysis! I usually have stuff saved from past big storms but lost a laptop back around that time, so I only have photos that I uploaded online back in the day. That does show why the precipitation pattern was like it was... the NEK and N.VT in general, was in the all important pivot point, with a sharp cut-off to the south. You can see how that radar just lifts north of I-89 and stalls...looks like it was almost like a NE flow aloft based on the pcpn pattern and moisture feed, so the usual NEK downslope off the Whites didn't apply. I'm also thinking in terms of how this would've affected my current spot in Stowe, and we probably got in on the same snow that the NEK did (albeit a little less being further away from that firehose), then got shadowed with low Froude Numbers later on in the storm. Very fascinating event, thanks for the graphics. Still props to BTV for the Froude Number breakthrough I love looking back at past events and guessing what the number would've been. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 Max of 69F so far after a min of 39F. Pretty nice day with a lot of sun for most of the day...leaning toward BKN skies now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoastalWx Posted April 29, 2013 Share Posted April 29, 2013 What a pants tent weekend wx wise at the lake. People aren't wasting much time putting their boats in the water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxmanmitch Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Awesome radar loop and reanalysis! I usually have stuff saved from past big storms but lost a laptop back around that time, so I only have photos that I uploaded online back in the day. That does show why the precipitation pattern was like it was... the NEK and N.VT in general, was in the all important pivot point, with a sharp cut-off to the south. You can see how that radar just lifts north of I-89 and stalls...looks like it was almost like a NE flow aloft based on the pcpn pattern and moisture feed, so the usual NEK downslope off the Whites didn't apply. I'm also thinking in terms of how this would've affected my current spot in Stowe, and we probably got in on the same snow that the NEK did (albeit a little less being further away from that firehose), then got shadowed with low Froude Numbers later on in the storm. Very fascinating event, thanks for the graphics. Still props to BTV for the Froude Number breakthrough I love looking back at past events and guessing what the number would've been. We had a solid coating to 1/2" of snow even down here from that event. A fair amount of it was cold rain before flipping to snow, so it probably would've been a 2-4" event here if temperatures were colder. PSF had 0.2" of LE. It was the latest snow event since 5/18/02. Judging by the radar loop, Froude numbers were definitely quite low as the precipitation is focused along the west slopes of the Berkshires and Green Mountains. We had a similar upslope event here on 11/27-28/09 that would've produced a solid warning level snowfall had temperatures been a few degrees colder as PSF had 0.74" of LE on a W to NW flow. I remember a rain/snow mix, but it couldn't quite make the transition to all snow that would accumulate and was a bit disappointed to say the least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#NoPoles Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 We had a solid coating to 1/2" of snow even down here from that event. A fair amount of it was cold rain before flipping to snow, so it probably would've been a 2-4" event here if temperatures were colder. PSF had 0.2" of LE. It was the latest snow event since 5/18/02. Judging by the radar loop, Froude numbers were definitely quite low as the precipitation is focused along the west slopes of the Berkshires and Green Mountains. We had a similar upslope event here on 11/27-28/09 that would've produced a solid warning level snowfall had temperatures been a few degrees colder as PSF had 0.74" of LE on a W to NW flow. I remember a rain/snow mix, but it couldn't quite make the transition to all snow that would accumulate and was a bit disappointed to say the least. hey Mitch, how are ya? haven't talked to ya in a while... anyway, seems like this omega block has brought some nice but boring weather...can't wait to get out on the hiking trails...gotta save up some money so i can go camping and hiking this summer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dendrite Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Nice launching pad in the upper 40s this morning. The 00z MET had CON down to 36F at 9z...oops. Looks like another nose bleeder with low RH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SJonesWX Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Nice launching pad in the upper 40s this morning. The 00z MET had CON down to 36F at 9z...oops. Looks like another nose bleeder with low RH. not even close, my low was 47 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tamarack Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Clear skies farther east, and temp near yesterday's low of 28, should get up near the 68 reached the last two afternoons. Diurnal leaps of 40F - a spring thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherMA Posted April 30, 2013 Share Posted April 30, 2013 Low was 51...high was 72. What a stretch for late April/early May we have been in! Just sick. 68-75 and sunny for the past 3 days and another week more at least! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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