famartin Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:20 PM, anthonyweather said: Saturday yes. Otherwise it's a dumping next week Rain in the city Saturday. If a map shows snow, then its just wrong. Maybe it could end as snow at ABE but probably 1-2 at the very most. Verbatim. Sunday/Monday it warms up fast. At 6Z Monday, ABE is still *barely* cold enough for snow with 0.13" having fallen. Another 0.48" falls in the next 6 hours, but it torches, with 850's at +4C. 2-3" of snow seems like a good estimate for ABE Sunday/Monday. If there are maps showing much more, then their algorithms are likely faulty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Yes what is the euro showing day 7-8. Appears to be some snow with the arctic front? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I'm seeing 3 snow maps. Insta, accupro, and wx bell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 wunderground snow maps were least impressive and most realistic Still five days away not like things won't be different 0z Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ralph Wiggum Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 8:30 PM, anthonyweather said: I'm seeing 3 snow maps. Insta, accupro, and wx bell You can only use 1 and not the sum of all three! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 On 12/3/2013 at 9:01 PM, Ralph Wiggum said: I'm seeing 3 snow maps. Insta, accupro, and wx bell You can only use 1 and not the sum of all three! Lol! Whatever, I'll look at it how I want, I pay $40 a month for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 0z ecm says yes to snow sunday evening 1" in philly 2" N&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChescoWx Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 Latest Euro for KMQS Coatesville has around 4" of snow on the ground by Monday morning with another 4" to 6" by the end of next week. That rumored warm up now has highs on the Euro no more than low 40's next week. If you like winter weather this is quite the pattern! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quakertown needs snow Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 time to focus on euro hr228 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mitchell Gaines Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 On 12/4/2013 at 2:15 PM, Quakertown needs snow said: time to focus on euro hr228 The 925 mb temps SE of PHL were near 0, so even that is a close call. t-minus 228 hrs to go. Still have several systems before this, haven't given up on wave Mon-Tue yet in terms of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady Di Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 May I ask what is on the euro @ 228? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 4, 2013 Share Posted December 4, 2013 On 12/4/2013 at 10:04 PM, Lady Di said: May I ask what is on the euro @ 228? The reference was to 228 hours concerned the 0z run. The 12z run is dry, but all of this is well in the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 0z euro for sunday snow 1-2" Philly, 2-4" N&W burbs, 5-6" allentown. less for saturday change to snow before ending with close to 1" N&W and 2-3" lehigh valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donsutherland1 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 6:47 AM, RedSky said: 0z euro for sunday snow 1-2" Philly, 2-4" N&W burbs, 5-6" allentown. less for saturday change to snow before ending with close to 1" N&W and 2-3" lehigh valley Per lowest algorithm on Bufkit: 3.6" PHL and 2.3" ABE on the 6z GFS for Sunday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 12z euro snow maps are fairly close in line with 0z for sunday. Cutback on ending of snow saturday to just far N&W burbs of 1" snow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NEchestercountydude Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Thanks for keeping us lurkers updated on the affects of this storm for the PHL area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anthonyweather Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 6:47 AM, RedSky said: 0z euro for sunday snow 1-2" Philly, 2-4" N&W burbs, 5-6" allentown. less for saturday change to snow before ending with close to 1" N&W and 2-3" lehigh valley pretty strong consensus on a 3-6 type event for N&W Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 8:03 PM, NEchestercountydude said: Thanks for keeping us lurkers updated on the affects of this storm for the PHL area. No problem. Starting to feel like i am the last man alone in the wilderness here. Time to get some chickens and unplug from the grid.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fields27 Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Your posts don't go unappreciated Redsky. Keep them coming! Sent from my HTC ONE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Violentweatherfan Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 On 12/5/2013 at 9:52 PM, RedSky said: No problem. Starting to feel like i am the last man alone in the wilderness here. Time to get some chickens and unplug from the grid.. There are many lurkers too. Thanks, the other new forum is not as active as one would think. May contain more posts but they are only from 2-3 posters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eastonwx Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 Forecast high was upper 50's, only made it up to 51-52 here. Don't know what (or if) effect it will have on the upcoming systems for this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 5, 2013 Share Posted December 5, 2013 18z GFS brought back the trailing wave for tuesday with 1-2" light snow for many. Ecm has not shown that as of yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 0z GFS came in rather low on snowfall for southeast PA as the "thump" hits south of the mason dixon. Don't fail us now euro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 0z euro becomes Dr No and sides with gfs becoming dry north of the mason dixon- snowmaps for sunday night look like 1" in sepa ironically now more snow may fall saturday morning with end of first system but more changes for sunday likely with close to three days to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 6:52 AM, RedSky said: 0z euro becomes Dr No and sides with gfs becoming dry north of the mason dixon- snowmaps for sunday night look like 1" in sepa ironically now more snow may fall saturday morning with end of first system Not along I-95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 6:57 AM, famartin said: Not along I-95. Have i ever said how much i hate dr no grrrr No last wave Tuesday snow from the evil ecm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
famartin Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 7:07 AM, RedSky said: Have i ever said how much i hate dr no grrrr Up at ABE the EC does suggest it could snow more (a couple inches) Friday night than Sunday night (maybe an inch). Along I-95 it looks like nothing Friday night, while there could be an inch Sunday night along I-95. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 7:11 AM, famartin said: Up at ABE the EC does suggest it could snow more (a couple inches) Friday night than Sunday night (maybe an inch). Along I-95 it looks like nothing Friday night, while there could be an inch Sunday night along I-95. yup crazy model mayhem for north of the border, mason dixon that is Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnowGoose69 Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 7:16 AM, RedSky said: yup crazy model mayhem for north of the border, mason dixon that is Assuming the models hold onto this idea and end up being wrong this may be one nasty last minute surprise for SNE down to PHL, I cannot recall ever seeing this setup before where we did not get a relatively expansive shield of precipitation advancing north courtesy of the WAA, perhaps in the instance of a west-east moving or well entrenched anyticyclone to the north but in this case the high is retreating away from the area as usually occurs in classic SWFE/overrunning events, something just stinks about the models being so dry on precip, even if they are showing this same scenario 12 hours out I'll be extremely worried about there being a major bust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedSky Posted December 6, 2013 Share Posted December 6, 2013 On 12/6/2013 at 7:20 AM, SnowGoose69 said: Assuming the models hold onto this idea and end up being wrong this may be one nasty last minute surprise for SNE down to PHL, I cannot recall ever seeing this setup before where we did not get a relatively expansive shield of precipitation advancing north courtesy of the WAA, perhaps in the instance of a west-east moving or well entrenched anyticyclone to the north but in this case the high is retreating away from the area as usually occurs in classic SWFE/overrunning events, something just stinks about the models being so dry on precip, even if they are showing this same scenario 12 hours out I'll be extremely worried about there being a major bust. Agreed. I have seen an overperforming snow burst arrive with WAA many times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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