IWXwx Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Nice walleye. No wonder there are so many boats out there. Reminds me of the dams near me, except wall-to-wall waders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gosaints Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Outlier. Pattern change is definetly there still. 18z pumps the ao as high as any run has Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Clouds broke and flurries stopped so I went across the road to St. Claire Lake and took this pic. A few days ago I measured 14" of ice but was told today while in town in town it's 18" in spots but the edge is getting soft so it will break up soon, and when it does, he said it goes fast. It's really a river that they name as lakes in spots. Has since clouded over again and snowing very lightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Nice walleye. No wonder there are so many boats out there. Reminds me of the dams near me, except wall-to-wall waders. I'm going to try to go next year... they were saying, if you want a chance to catch a 10lb walleye, this is where you go. I have some other pictures that my nephew (kid in picture) sent me... I guess fishing from shore can be just as good...there were even kayaks out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 NWS MKE Early April 2012/2013 This is crazy...crazy...crazy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 NWS MKE Early April 2012/2013 This is crazy...crazy...crazy That's awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I do miss the green. April 2012 slowed down the leaf out, but it was still about 2 week ahead of normal. We are probably 2 week behind normal now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Yeah..last year i know in Michigan, at one point they were saying (fruit growers) were 6 weeks ahead or some crazy thing like that..i figured i was a month ahead here... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I do miss the green. April 2012 slowed down the leaf out, but it was still about 2 week ahead of normal. We are probably 2 week behind normal now. No we are not anywhere close to being that far behind. The native trees are heavy with buds and it wouldn't take but a 3-5 day stretch in the upper 50s and low 60s to pop some green shoots. Last March was so "ahead" of normal some forestry experts pinned it at a 3-5 weeks ahead of normal. MSUs agro tracking has pinned this spring at a normal bloom rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 No we are not anywhere close to being that far behind. The native trees are heavy with buds and it wouldn't take but a 3-5 day stretch in the upper 50s and low 60s to pop some green shoots. Last March was so "ahead" of normal some forestry experts pinned it at a 3-5 weeks ahead of normal. MSUs agro tracking has pinned this spring at a normal bloom rate. Not here...we have "concrete frost".... I would say 6-10 days of 55F+ for leaf out... I brought trees into my basement (mid 50Fs) and it took some trees a couple weeks to bud out from full dormancy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 No we are not anywhere close to being that far behind. The native trees are heavy with buds and it wouldn't take but a 3-5 day stretch in the upper 50s and low 60s to pop some green shoots. Last March was so "ahead" of normal some forestry experts pinned it at a 3-5 weeks ahead of normal. MSUs agro tracking has pinned this spring at a normal bloom rate. That's about right. Last year I found my first morels on March 31st. That is exactly one month ahead of normal for this latitude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 MSU did pin apples on the westside of the state as less than 1 week behind green tip. A welcomed event from the misery that happened last March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 No we are not anywhere close to being that far behind. The native trees are heavy with buds and it wouldn't take but a 3-5 day stretch in the upper 50s and low 60s to pop some green shoots. Last March was so "ahead" of normal some forestry experts pinned it at a 3-5 weeks ahead of normal. MSUs agro tracking has pinned this spring at a normal bloom rate. There is no signs of any greening or budding around here.. Zippo. I still have frost up to the surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 There is no signs of any greening or budding around here.. Zippo. I still have frost up to the surface. ditto..i was digging in a south expose location, with no snow for a few weeks (I had shoveled it all away) and there was still frost in the ground this past weekend... not much (i broke through it with a sharp shovel), but enough to know that its going to take a little warmth to get this crap thawed out...although a heavy, warm rain is going to do wonders i think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 There is no signs of any greening or budding around here.. Zippo. I still have frost up to the surface. ditto..i was digging in a south expose location, with no snow for a few weeks (I had shoveled it all away) and there was still frost in the ground this past weekend... not much (i broke through it with a sharp shovel), but enough to know that its going to take a little warmth to get this crap thawed out...although a heavy, warm rain is going to do wonders i think. It's shoving my landscaping trim upward and its irritating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 There is no signs of any greening or budding around here.. Zippo. I still have frost up to the surface. Then you are blind dude or not looking. Lol. I was just in Howel yesterday (grand river and lk chumung) and the trees had buds and the forst was well below 3" for we had to trench 20' of electrical conduit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAFF Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Buds on the Maple trees here were poppin out all green a few days ago. Tonight the buds have retracted and the green is sitting inside awaiting some warmth. As of 11 am I was washing and the water was refeezing in the shady areas. I usually look at April 1st as the start of the full time wash season. This year the tanker sits inside so it doesn't freeze overnight. Dug out a Ash tree trunk 15" diameter this Sunday... Zero frost 25" down and the ground is very dry too. We need the wet season to kick in soon or we might be under drought conditions again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 I am no tree expert I just know there seem to be many stages of budding...and the only buds I have seen are the very early red ones on maple trees which eventually fall to the ground (that has not happened yet) before the spring buds take over. I pretty much eyeball things like when the grass gets that "spring green" (not even close yet), when the flower shoots start to come out of the ground (those seem to be behind normal) and when the horsechestnut trees pop their leaves (they seem to be the first trees to do so, but their budding process seems to last like 2 days so theres very little early warning, and of course they look the same now as they do in mid-winter). i also use the magnolias as a guide. Last year was about 4 weeks early. This year its too early for me to tell, but Im sure things will be at least 1 week behind schedule. We have had below normal temps, an abundance of cloudiness (until the last few days, but the clear skies have caused very unseaonably cold April nights), and abnormal dryness...we will see, I just dont think it will be right on cue. Id say probably look to 2011, which was also seemingly about 1 week later than normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michsnowfreak Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Buds on the Maple trees here were poppin out all green a few days ago. Tonight the buds have retracted and the green is sitting inside awaiting some warmth. As of 11 am I was washing and the water was refeezing in the shady areas. I usually look at April 1st as the start of the full time wash season. This year the tanker sits inside so it doesn't freeze overnight. Dug out a Ash tree trunk 15" diameter this Sunday... Zero frost 25" down and the ground is very dry too. We need the wet season to kick in soon or we might be under drought conditions again. I can say with 100% certainty I have seen NOTHING green lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geos Posted April 3, 2013 Author Share Posted April 3, 2013 I have a few isolated spots on my lawn that are beginning to green, but that's about it in terms of new growth. Winter buds are quite visible on my 3 types of Maples and Birch trees. Cooled off to 25° now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weatherbo Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Only going to be 34 today. I have purchased a split-rail fence for my yard 15 5ft pine/spruce trees, wildflower seed, and border materials. Everything is waiting in the wings, put on hold 'til Spring decides to make its appearance. 18 degrees currently with a mix if sun and lake clouds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is this! ... MSU says that last year at this time, southeast Michigan apples were beginning to flower. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
daddylonglegs Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Here is a crop progress report from MSU... http://msue.anr.msu.edu/news/southwest_michigan_fruit_regional_report_april_2_2013 Some swelling of various buds, but not much happening yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chicago WX Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Dipped to 21º at LAF this morning. 85º here last year on this date. That was the last of the torching of March/early April 2012. We leveled out thereafter, and were around normal the rest of the month. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonger Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Buds on the Maple trees here were poppin out all green a few days ago. Tonight the buds have retracted and the green is sitting inside awaiting some warmth. As of 11 am I was washing and the water was refeezing in the shady areas. I usually look at April 1st as the start of the full time wash season. This year the tanker sits inside so it doesn't freeze overnight. Dug out a Ash tree trunk 15" diameter this Sunday... Zero frost 25" down and the ground is very dry too. We need the wet season to kick in soon or we might be under drought conditions again. I can say with 100% certainty I have seen NOTHING green lol. My lawn is actually turning a lighter shade of Brown.... Probably the dead grass is drying out.... Other than that, not much change. My parents lawn is greening a tad, they have really thin grass cover though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ottawa Blizzard Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is this! ... MSU says that last year at this time, southeast Michigan apples were beginning to flower. Perhaps it's time we started considering 1812 and 1816 as possible spring/summer analogs? 1812 apparantly had a very "backward" spring with snow into May according to David Ludlum. That couldn't have been connected to Tambora by the way given the volcano didn't erupt until 1815. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brewers Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 What is this! ... MSU says that last year at this time, southeast Michigan apples were beginning to flower. Euro gives La Crosse a foot of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartyOn Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 Perhaps it's time we started considering 1812 and 1816 as possible spring/summer analogs? 1812 apparantly had a very "backward" spring with snow into May according to David Ludlum. That couldn't have been connected to Tambora by the way given the volcano didn't erupt until 1815. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IWXwx Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 severe ftw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frostfern Posted April 3, 2013 Share Posted April 3, 2013 My lawn is actually turning a lighter shade of Brown.... Probably the dead grass is drying out.... Other than that, not much change. My parents lawn is greening a tad, they have really thin grass cover though. The daffodils are popping up here despite no warmth. Actually saw them already 3 weeks ago coming out through the snow. A lot of the lawns here still have the moldy matted down look from sitting under a glacier of snow for so long though. Only a small hint of green if you rake away the dead crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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