MAG5035 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Bringing my snow map over here for you guys, I think Pittsburgh should generally see 3 or 4 inches and have a period where it mixes and/or changes to rain/sleet. That's roughly denoted by the pink dashed line on the map. North of the line I expect mainly snow, south of it mixing or a changeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lwg8tr0514 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Bringing my snow map over here for you guys, I think Pittsburgh should generally see 3 or 4 inches and have a period where it mixes and/or changes to rain/sleet. That's roughly denoted by the pink dashed line on the map. North of the line I expect mainly snow, south of it mixing or a changeover. Slide1.png Curious you put yourself in the middle of the largest band of snow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAG5035 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Curious you put yourself in the middle of the largest band of snow. Curious that CTP did too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Precip has yet to begin around Allegheny County. We've had a nice little hole in the precip just sit right over top of us so far this morning and temps are going up. Bad luck in that regard since anything we would have gotten so far would be snow. I'm thinking by the time the ample precip moves into the area it's already going to be a mixed bag, especially for southern communities, Like I mentioned earlier in the week, the warm tongue almost always gets us, especially south of the city. That map above that has the pink dotted line representing the rain/snow line can almost be drawn permanently through Allegheny County with storms like this. We'll see some periods of snow before the mixing occurs but it's not going to add up to much. Maybe an inch or two if we're lucky. More to the north. Probably not even that around Bethel Park and south. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChalkHillSnowNut Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Yea all that moisture is impressive and the rain line looks like it's on a mission Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsteel Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Looks like the NWS thinks the rain/snow line is going to be further north now by this afternoon, yet another bust for snow? Still nothing here as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Looks like the NWS thinks the rain/snow line is going to be further north now by this afternoon, yet another bust for snow? Still nothing here as well. Interesting AFD concerning the the storm, and possible suspect model QPF. Also CTP's AFD mentioned a back door cold front in their area, that might be the focal point of the sudden expansion on the radar, along and north of the turnpike east of New Stanton. The precip looks like its even backbuilding west toward the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rdd9108 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 On to the next storm, this one busted again. We will be lucky to see 2 inches. Sooner or later we have to stop being screwed over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tsteel Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Interesting AFD concerning the the storm, and possible suspect model QPF. Also CTP's AFD mentioned a back door cold front in their area, that might be the focal point of the sudden expansion on the radar, along and north of the turnpike east of New Stanton. The precip looks like its even backbuilding west toward the metro. Yeah their discussion pretty much sums up how difficult this forecast was, even now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Bringing my snow map over here for you guys, I think Pittsburgh should generally see 3 or 4 inches and have a period where it mixes and/or changes to rain/sleet. That's roughly denoted by the pink dashed line on the map. North of the line I expect mainly snow, south of it mixing or a changeover. Slide1.png Thanks for stopping by MAG, your map is similar to the NWS Pittsburgh has for us. Starting to wonder if this storm busts low in the southern portion of the state? Lots of virga thus far, and warm air racing towards us. Just some light flurries thus far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Interesting AFD concerning the the storm, and possible suspect model QPF. Also CTP's AFD mentioned a back door cold front in their area, that might be the focal point of the sudden expansion on the radar, along and north of the turnpike east of New Stanton. The precip looks like its even backbuilding west toward the metro. Yeah, the radar looked very unimpressive this morning when I checked around 2:30am, and still does not appear to have a very organized shield in our area. I feel we may see a quick burst of snow that changes over quickly to a mix later this afernoon which would put snowfall predictions in serious jeapardy. My temp, at the surface at least, is already flirting with freezing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Curious you put yourself in the middle of the largest band of snow. Are you insinuating he let his desire for snow somehow bias the snow fall map he posted here? If so, you better have some examples from models or other scientific reasoning to back that statement up. We want discussion and oppsing views are fine, but blindly accusing someone of bias without reason is not someting any of us have any time for. Our area has a hard enough time getting some professional anlysis and this sort of comment will just prevent professionals from even bothering to post ideas in our thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 And, just as I finish posting about very little reaching the ground, moderate snow just starting coming down. Looks like the atmoshere has been moistened sufficiently now for precipitiaton to reach the surface. Already a light dusting on the ground, hopefully we can sustain this snowfall rate for awhile. Now we watch the dreaded R/S line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 And, just as I finish posting about very little reaching the ground, moderate snow just starting coming down. Looks like the atmoshere has been moistened sufficiently now for precipitiaton to reach the surface. Already a light dusting on the ground, hopefully we can sustain this snowfall rate for awhile. Now we watch the dreaded R/S line. I'm currently in Washington, PA. Rain/sleet mix. Mostly rain. I'll be driving back up to Bridgeville in a little bit. We'll see if that r/s line follows me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Curious you put yourself in the middle of the largest band of snow. Sorry MAG - your thoughts and maps are welcome and appreciated here. lwg8tr0514 - You also thought NWS was a joke because they said Wash, PA would have rain a couple storms ago. Didn't see you once the driving rain started. Don't scare off our red taggers, please. Anyway... Snowing moderately with about .5" new. Had a lot of virga, but the radar is impressive. Two headwinds for us. First that rain/snow line. Morgantown is already raining - may not have seen one flake. I also wonder how much of that radar rapidly vanishes as the low reorganizes to the east. That's the problem with open wave systems and why they are not typically in our wheelhouse. What looks like hours and hours of precip to come can suddenly erode. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm currently in Washington, PA. Rain/sleet mix. Mostly rain. I'll be driving back up to Bridgeville in a little bit. We'll see if that r/s line follows me. UGH. LOL Wow, that was pretty fast. Mabey that explains the sudden larger flakes here. Visibility has dropped though, 1-1.5 miles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meatwad Posted December 14, 2013 Author Share Posted December 14, 2013 moderate snow here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
north pgh Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Moderate snow here. Rain/snow line racing northward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 All we can do is enjoy the burst as long as we can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Still in Washington. Snow is mixing back in. The line must be right over top of me right now. A little bit of everything coming down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burghblizz Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Moderate snow here. Rain/snow line racing northward. Per Intellicast, it looks like it's having a tough time getting above M/D line. So maybe it will be more of a crawl as the primary low dies. Although I do know it's not that reliable for P-type. The sleet report already out of Washington was a little disturbing however. Trying just to enjoy whats falling for now - beautiful morning out - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colonel717 Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Been snowing pretty moderately here. Looks like about 1/2 inch so far. Has just lightened up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Getting ready to leave Washington and head to Bridgeville. Now, it's mostly rain here in Washington with some snowflakes mixing in. It'll be interesting to see how far I have to go to get back to all snow, If I do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamcity Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Sloppy wet snow in west pgh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whamcity Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Roads are AWFUL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Snow, sleet, and rain now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackngoldrules Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Rain/snow mix in Bridgeville. If it's still straight snow wherever you're at, enjoy it while it lasts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Still all snow here, it has lightened up considerably though. Probably about an inch of new snow. Temp howvering between 30 and 31. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CoraopolisWx Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 Snow is sayin' F.U. Tom Nizol, not goin down without a fight. lol But seriously, from what I've read over in the Columbus thread, the snow is trying to hold on, even after changing briefly to rain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RitualOfTheTrout Posted December 14, 2013 Share Posted December 14, 2013 I'm noticing, at leat at the surface (from obs and just looking at the direction the snow if falling) the breeze has an easterly component to it. I wonder if that will help mitigate some warmth for awhile? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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