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March 24-25 Potential Bomb Part Deux


earthlight

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Soil/ground temps are colder in March than they are in September. Trying digging down 6 or 12" in March and do the same in September.

 

That is true, however. Insolation values are just as high as they are in September. I shouldn't have used heat, a better word would have been energy. More energy = higher temps however. Examples:

 

Yesterday:

EASTinsol2013082.gif

 

September 19:

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Why is it funny? The Euro had a good bit of precip into NYC when it was within it's 24 hour range and NYC didn't see anything for an event in January.

 

So one event in January determines its performance? Id much rather have the euro on my side than any other model this far out. It's destroyed the competition up here.

 

As far as this event..it is rather dry, but this is not your normal low. It's a ton of upper level low dynamics...not much WAA so screwyn things may happen. Very tough forecast there and hugh bust potential.

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The airmass is verifying  drier than the GFS had in the forecast.

 

http://wxweb.meteostar.com/meteogram/link.shtml?choice=kphl

 

http://www.nws.noaa.gov/cgi-bin/mos/getmav.pl?sta=KPHL

 

That means two things.

 

It could mean there is better wetbulbing potential, and it could suggest that the GFS is overdoing precip amounts there. 

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So one event in January determines its performance? Id much rather have the euro on my side than any other model this far out. It's destroyed the competition up here.

 

As far as this event..it is rather dry, but this is not your normal low. It's a ton of upper level low dynamics...not much WAA so screwyn things may happen. Very tough forecast there and hugh bust potential.

 

No, I didn't say that.

 

I said the Euro has made flaws in this range, and isn't as great as it was in the medium range. I provided an example to back up my reasoning. I recall that the Euro suddenly reduced precip amounts for the Jan 26-27 2011 snowstorm the day before it hit as well. Again, not the best model to use in that range.

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No, I didn't say that.

 

I said the Euro has made flaws in this range, and isn't as great as it was in the medium range. I provided an example to back up my reasoning. I recall that the Euro suddenly reduced precip amounts for the Jan 26-27 2011 snowstorm the day before it hit as well. Again, not the best model to use in that range.

 

Sounds like weenie logic. I'd much rather have the euro.

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I dint get it. Gefs moved west. Euro is struggling .

The GEFS also pounded us on 2/6/10 and we ended up getting nothing. It often overdoes the northern extent of storms that run into huge confluence. The Euro backing down further tells me this will be a minor event at best for the metro area. Might just be a coating to an inch on grass for most of us. Monmouth County on south will do better. This one's a miss for us.

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Sounds like weenie logic. I'd much rather have the euro.

 

It's not weenie logic. I'm basing it off of what I observed with the Euro in the past when it forecasted for events within the 24 hour range. Euro hugging is as bad as dismissing it's solution entirely, since it has been both right and wrong with precip amounts in that range.

 

It's definitely concerning to see two good models like the RGEM/Euro on the southern side of guidance though.

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It's not weenie logic. I'm basing it off of what I observed with the Euro in the past when it forecasted for events within the 24 hour range. Euro hugging is as bad as dismissing it's solution entirely, since it has been both right and wrong with precip amounts in that range.

 

It's definitely concerning to see two good models like the RGEM/Euro on the southern side of guidance though.

 

Of course hugging a model is wrong, but trying to find ways why the better model is wrong by using a case on Jan 2011....is just awful logic.

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