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March 25th Storm: Debacle or Climo Defier? Discussion and Obs


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You don't need to spend your time convincing me...already on the climo side

 

i'm not really trying to gauge expectations...I think it is pretty cool that it will snow on March 25th and may accumulate in some places....i got accumulating snow on 4/7/07, 3/27/11...it isnt that rare.....I just dont think it matters much who gets what in a huge gradient event that is going to be mostly grass anyway..

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Lol, you should run the UN.

I just don't get it. First of all, his post I don't think was directed at Zwyts, because what he talked about showed he knew the things Thunderman was talking about. Regardless, I don't think the shots need to be taken, personal forecasting skill in the past only builds a resume, its all about now. Let's see how we all do with this snowstorm, whoever is right is getting the last laugh for the next few months. 

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i'm not really trying to gauge expectations...I think it is pretty cool that it will snow on March 25th and may accumulate in some places....i got accumulating snow on 4/7/07, 3/27/11...it isnt that rare.....I just dont think it matters much who gets what in a huge gradient event that is going to be mostly grass anyway..

Yeah I'm just pretty happy about seeing some flakes in late march

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I just don't get it. First of all, his post I don't think was directed at Zwyts, because what he talked about showed he knew the things Thunderman was talking about. Regardless, I don't think the shots need to be taken, personal forecasting skill in the past only builds a resume, its all about now. Let's see how we all do with this snowstorm, whoever is right is getting the last laugh for the next few months. 

You have to learn the different personalities in this forum before you understand, but I am with you all the way. You seem like a cool level headed guy.

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when i lived in nw ct i only knew what the blue 850 line was and just made sure i was north of it. it worked almost every time.

it would be really fun to have a facebook page forecasting for ORH metro instead of DC Metro. 

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You have to learn the different personalities in this forum before you understand, but I am with you all the way. You seem like a cool level headed guy.

Just here to enjoy some weather and spread some wealth. Appreciate it, tomorrow evening into Monday should be a fun adventure regardless of outcome, though we are all rooting for the so-called miracle. 

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You have to learn the different personalities in this forum before you understand, but I am with you all the way. You seem like a cool level headed guy.

 

the problem is I could get 0.2" on a cartop, Ian could get 1" and Bob Chill could get 4".....or Ian 3" and me T......or whatever....I dont think it makes sense to make a deterministic forecast for this event....

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Just here to enjoy some weather and spread some wealth. Appreciate it, tomorrow evening into Monday should be a fun adventure regardless of outcome, though we are all rooting for the so-called miracle. 

I really appreciate your analysis, you seem to really know your stuff. Where do you live?.

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the problem is I could get 0.2" on a cartop, Ian could get 1" and Bob Chill could get 4".....or Ian 3" and me T......or whatever....I dont think it makes sense to make a deterministic forecast for this event....

I totally agree with you on that, but what's the point of having all these models and all these mets if you cannot make a forecast with all this info. I will give Mark his props, he forecast's once usually and sticks to his guns and is usually right. If he does bust he comes back right away and explains what he did wrong. It is a shame he does not have Wes's personality.

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the problem is I could get 0.2" on a cartop, Ian could get 1" and Bob Chill could get 4".....or Ian 3" and me T......or whatever....I dont think it makes sense to make a deterministic forecast for this event....

 

i guess, tho in some ways everyone using probabilities for everything seems like a cop out. at some point forecasts will have 12 categories or potential including every possible solution. 

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Just more of curiosity as something I have noticed over this way ... but how is MOS for tomorrow comparing to how it looked for 3/5 around DC?  It is almost identical over this way.  Again, not that means much with precip moving in a little earlier this time.

 

pretty much the same.. even nam mos thinks its going to be mid-30s in dc for a high. we'll see i guess. 3 weeks of climo mostly cancels out any better air mass. i could maybe see temps like 1-3 colder this go just with better wind flow?

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i guess, tho in some ways everyone using probabilities for everything seems like a cop out. at some point forecasts will have 12 categories or potential including every possible solution. 

10% chance of nothing

10% chance of drizzle

10% chance of less than one inch

10% chance of 1.0 - 1.5 inches

10% chance of 1.5 - 2.0 inches

10% chance of 2.0 - 2.5 inches

10% chance of 2.5 - 3.0 inches

10% chance of 3.0 - 3.5 inches

10% chance of more than 3.5 inches but less than 5 inches

10% chance of more than 5 inches but less than 36 inches

 

This is a very useful forecast for people trying to figure out what kind of weather conditions to expect.

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Stay up for the euro tonight, I expect some entertainment regardless of outcome. Its a weekend, so we should have some folks in here, plus its the night before our supposed storm, so let's enjoy tracking one last winter event. 

Agreed, I am up until the 6Z NAM. This is our last hoorah, I can sleep for 8 months after this.

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