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March 25th Storm: Debacle or Climo Defier? Discussion and Obs


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I know this is kinda unscientific in a lot of ways, but it's hard to not see this doing what March 5-6 did (fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...?).  Where we get a coating overnight, then white rain most of the day Monday.  However, it appears from what I've looked at that the air mass should be better with this despite it now being almost 3 weeks later.  And the set-up is quite different dynamically, I think. 

 

So, I go into this with cautious optimism, like probably everyone else.  Actually, if this goes as the models are indicating now (even accounting for the NAM's ridiculously QPF and probably too cold surface), this should easily give DC 1-3", maybe more, I'd have to think.  More to the west of course.  So in that regard, better than the "No-quester" event.

 

Won't be surprised if at least advisories go up later tomorrow.  That would be reasonable.  Not sure if any watches would be extended to the I-95 corridor, but probably close.  Someone else suggested they can see why LWX is being a bit conservative right now with little or nothing in the DC metro area, and I can sort of understand that too at this point.  Though I'd think they should go at least an inch right now, that seems a pretty good bet.  An unusual late March event, nobody is going all-out at this point with pushing heavy snow.  Plus I'm sure there's a certain amount of having been "snake bitten" on March 5-6 when they put out high snow forecast amounts, and clung to the warnings way too long on the 6th even when it was apparent it was a loss.  Now, if the good trends and indications continue tomorrow, I think they'd have to be more aggressive.

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Your friend JB2 has been talking all day about how this storm will be much different because it will be a north wind not easterly like 3/6.

 

the track and evolution is better for sure. 3/6 might have worked if it came together differently. 

 

again odd the euro was among the first to show the enhanced thump right nw of the stack etc. then it pushed it east.. now the american models over and over like that BWI-PHL corridor toward the coast.  DC kinda right on the edge.. heartbreak radars and such for us probably. 

 

these big 500 lows coming in too far north on a more W to E path seem to favor development too late for me to really cash in but can crush in ne md to phl in winter for sure.

 

if these 'bigger' solutions happen you prob still end up with localized striping with perhaps much lower totals in the surrounding areas that the snow maps think get a general 5-10" of snow.

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Who cares? Snow will likely be falling on March 25th.. what more do you want this time of the year?

 

we have more dustings than any other year on record might as well keep padding it

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Who cares? Snow will likely be falling on March 25th.. what more do you want this time of the year?

 

context..i was answering a post

 

but I totally agree...seeing snow fall is fine with me...I will be at work at 75'....why on 3/25 should I care if it sticks well to the medians and trashcans

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the track and evolution is better for sure. 3/6 might have worked if it came together differently. 

 

again odd the euro was among the first to show the enhanced thump right nw of the stack etc. then it pushed it east.. now the american models over and over like that BWI-PHL corridor toward the coast.  DC kinda right on the edge.. heartbreak radars and such for us probably. 

 

these big 500 lows coming in too far north on a more W to E path seem to favor development too late for me to really cash in but can crush in ne md to phl in winter for sure.

 

if these 'bigger' solutions happen you prob still end up with localized striping with perhaps much lower totals in the surrounding areas that the snow maps think get a general 5-10" of snow.

It is still a real longshot to get anything decent around here, but if it does come in at around 10 p.m. tomorrow night that should help with accumulation a lot. The RAP has been good with timing so that should at least bode well for getting snow here earlier than the GFS shows.

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Um, GFS looks pretty good actually.   I'd hate to be a met right now to be honest.  I'd still argue climo and take the way under, but man...

That's what I was thinking.  Would hate to be on the hot seat for this at this time of year.  I agree, I'd probably "undercut" things at this point but man, if this still looks real as tomorrow goes on, you'd have to pull the trigger more.  You know there's a lot of caution after the closures on March 6, last thing they'd want is a warning for heavy snows and see the same thing happen.  Actually, I would not be surprised if the Feds have delayed arrival with optional telework/unscheduled leave for Monday, almost regardless of what goes down.  Lots of schools are on spring break next week (MoCo is, at least), so many of them might not even be affected with having to make a decision.

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That's what I was thinking.  Would hate to be on the hot seat for this at this time of year.  I agree, I'd probably "undercut" things at this point but man, if this still looks real as tomorrow goes on, you'd have to pull the trigger more.  You know there's a lot of caution after the closures on March 6, last thing they'd want is a warning for heavy snows and see the same thing happen.  Actually, I would not be surprised if the Feds have delayed arrival with optional telework/unscheduled leave for Monday, almost regardless of what goes down.  Lots of schools are on spring break next week (MoCo is, at least), so many of them might not even be affected with having to make a decision.

 

why?...this isnt a hard forecast....play it down and say some people in the more favored areas may see a few inches on their grass and decks...

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yeah...I dont think it really matters what happens....

 

decent precip for a 3 hr period. that could be 1"/hr snow if it was perfect.. which might give us 1-2 accum. euro will prob have .13 over the 6 hr period inclusive of that three hr period tho.

 

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