FrederickWX Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 as i already mentioned, but I'll do it again since you missed it, I sat in a park with a ton of other people on March 10th at around 59-60 degrees and people were in shorts and short sleeves and bikinis, for hours and hours...on March 30th I was downtown with a million people at around 59-60 degrees and everyone was raving about how gorgeous it was....even with dew in the 30s, 75 in direct sun for hours is hot...and I maintain that people sitting in the sun for extended periods would rather have 65- 68 and sunny than 75....In the evening or in the shade is a different story....people may say 75, but if I plop them in a park on a blanket or in right field at the Nats game, they will quickly change their mind...nothwithstanding that a lot of people decry the quick spring, and appreciate 60s and sunny as long as we can get it....The idea that someone needs a jacket to sit outside on April 4th when it is 65 degrees is hilarious...people were laying in the park yesterday at 48 degrees and windy... Pretty much every person I saw yesterday was wearing a jacket or coat. I was in a Chipotle for lunch, and people were complaining about how cold it's been, and how sick of the cold weather they are. I went over to Wegmans, and heard a couple of other similar conversations. Yesterday, with its afternoon temperature being 15 degrees below average, was not a pleasant day. I don't know what goes on down in DC, but up this way, people were certainly not laying in the park sunning themselves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 It will be nice not to have to toss on a jacket tho I've found I usually need a jacket in the mornings/evening until June....May is usually 50-50, but in a normal May, upper 50s at night requires something if hanging/walking outside for any extended period at night... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pretty much every person I saw yesterday was wearing a jacket or coat. I was in a Chipotle for lunch, and people were complaining about how cold it's been, and how sick of the cold weather they are. I went over to Wegmans, and heard a couple of other similar conversations. Yesterday, with its afternoon temperature being 15 degrees below average, was not a pleasant day. I don't know what goes on down in DC, but up this way, people were certainly not laying in the park sunning themselves. they had jackets on...very few people were without jackets yesterday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ravensrule Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I am still putting on a stocking cap walking the dog at 10pm. Going to rob a bank on the way back? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Pretty much every person I saw yesterday was wearing a jacket or coat. I was in a Chipotle for lunch, and people were complaining about how cold it's been, and how sick of the cold weather they are. I went over to Wegmans, and heard a couple of other similar conversations. Yesterday, with its afternoon temperature being 15 degrees below average, was not a pleasant day. I don't know what goes on down in DC, but up this way, people were certainly not laying in the park sunning themselves. I'm with you. I haven't heard anyone remark on how fabulous the weather has been recently - just how chilly and windy it's been. Maybe the hipsters in the District just think it's cool to get out and lounge in the park on a cool spring day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 It is too dependent on other factors to pick a number. I can be comfortable sitting in my shaded backyard at 82/60 with a nice breeze, or I can be comfortable at 55 and sun while mowing/raking/golfing.Probably tho an 80 around now usually feels a little too warm when not acclimated or whatever. There's a difference between 80/60 in late Mar or early April and August as an example. The sun is strong either way so if you can kill the breeze a 'cool' day does feel pretty awesome. I kinda agree tho that we are losing some nice days at least. If its a sign summer won't be torrid that's one thing but if we just flip from cold to hot it's another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 we haven't had 3 below normal spring months since 1992, so people can stop fretting...either April and/or May is a virtual lock to be at or above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 I'm with you. I haven't heard anyone remark on how fabulous the weather has been recently - just how chilly and windy it's been. Maybe the hipsters in the District just think it's cool to get out and lounge in the park on a cool spring day. There were thousands of people outside last Saturday and it was absolutely beautiful...maybe you were at the computer complaining Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wxdude64 Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 What are these "jackets" people are mentioning? I wear one when it is in teens or i'm going to be out for hours in 30's or heavy winds, guess everyone truly is different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've found I usually need a jacket in the mornings/evening until June....May is usually 50-50, but in a normal May, upper 50s at night requires something if hanging/walking outside for any extended period at night... Yeah tho I could see myself ditching the coat on the way to work etc next week. I don't do a ton of hanging out for long periods outside at night usually I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Probably tho an 80 around now usually feels a little too warm when not acclimated or whatever. There's a difference between 80/60 in late Mar or early April and August as an example. The sun is strong either way so if you can kill the breeze a 'cool' day does feel pretty awesome. I kinda agree tho that we are losing some nice days at least. If its a sign summer won't be torrid that's one thing but if we just flip don cold to hot it's another. I agree with this. This time of year, to me anyway, anything below 55 is chilly, and anything above 75 is too warm. Right now, a 65 degree day with sunshine and blue skies is perfect. The problem with the cold weather sticking around is that we lose those 65 degree days, and go from chill to heat in a very short time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 There were thousands of people outside last Saturday and it was absolutely beautiful...maybe you were at the computer complaining Last Saturday was absolutely amazing. I was down in Baltimore and it was absolutely beautiful. 60 degrees, sunshine, little wind, made it feel very pleasant. I think the complaints are that we have had very few of those types of days, and many more of the windy/cloudy/cold/below-average days. And days that are forecast to be nice usually end up not being that way. Take today for example - it's almost 11am, only in the 30s, and the sky is already clouded up in advance of the next system. I was hoping it would turn out nicer, but that appears like it's not going to be the case today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 The problem with this year is that we haven't had as many 60s and sunny to this point as most years. We've been ripped off on Spring over the past several years by diving right into summer. This year, we have lost a couple of weeks because it has been chilly and breezy. Either way, it shortens one of the nice times of year. It is too dependent on other factors to pick a number. I can be comfortable sitting in my shaded backyard at 82/60 with a nice breeze, or I can be comfortable at 55 and sun while mowing/raking/golfing. Probably tho an 80 around now usually feels a little too warm when not acclimated or whatever. There's a difference between 80/60 in late Mar or early April and August as an example. The sun is strong either way so if you can kill the breeze a 'cool' day does feel pretty awesome. I kinda agree tho that we are losing some nice days at least. If its a sign summer won't be torrid that's one thing but if we just flip from cold to hot it's another. May 2008 sans the 4-5 day washout is about as good as we can hope for.....about half the month was perfect low humidity blue sky days averaging around 75-54......go minus in May and June and I'll be happy....I don't really care if July is +3...it sucks anyway....90/72 days are pretty useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 If I have to go 4 and 4, I want this April - minus May - minus June - minus July - Plus August - Plus September - Minus October - Plus November - Plus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 I've come to accept that a minus November is useless Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MN Transplant Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 If I have to go 4 and 4, I want this April - minus May - minus June - minus July - Plus August - Plus September - Minus October - Plus November - Plus Aug '04 was great. I guess given a 4/4 split, I guess I'd just be boring and go with a + Apr/May/Oct/Nov and a - Jun through Sept. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 There were thousands of people outside last Saturday and it was absolutely beautiful...maybe you were at the computer complaining Saturday wasn't bad, but I think (can't recall) it got a little breezy. I was more likely to be doing yardwork, hanging out with the baby, walking the dog, watching soccer, or anything else other than sitting at a keyboard for any stretch of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 4, 2013 Author Share Posted April 4, 2013 Aug '04 was great. I guess given a 4/4 split, I guess I'd just be boring and go with a + Apr/May/Oct/Nov and a - Jun through Sept. August 2004 was one of the best summer months of my lifetime Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Aug '04 was great. I guess given a 4/4 split, I guess I'd just be boring and go with a + Apr/May/Oct/Nov and a - Jun through Sept. Move to San Diego. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastCoast NPZ Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yeah, it's been below avg tempwise (for a change) and the wind has been real annoying, but all the complaining about the "cold" (we're talking 40s and 50s here mind you - and not 20s and 30s) is comical. For all those currently shivering in their arctic suits try to remember this in mid July when DCA is on a 5 day 100+ streak and everyone is bitching about the sweltering heat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yeah, it's been below avg tempwise (for a change) and the wind has been real annoying, but all the complaining about the "cold" (we're talking 40s and 50s here mind you - and not 20s and 30s) is comical. For all those currently shivering in their arctic suits try to remember this in mid July when DCA is on a 5 day 100+ streak and everyone is bitching about the sweltering heat. A lot of the complaining is due to the fact that it's about time for extended periods of 50 or so with wind to be gone. It's all contextual. When the average high is a few degrees north or south of 60 areawide, most people are ready for it to warm up, especially after a relatively cold March. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Yeah, it's been below avg tempwise (for a change) and the wind has been real annoying, but all the complaining about the "cold" (we're talking 40s and 50s here mind you - and not 20s and 30s) is comical. For all those currently shivering in their arctic suits try to remember this in mid July when DCA is on a 5 day 100+ streak and everyone is bitching about the sweltering heat. Come on now... "cold" is relative. Most people are sick of winter by the time we hit late March and early April, so continuing with -15 departures and highs in the mid-40s with winds is a legitimate source of complaint by the average person. People aren't complaining because it's only 60 degrees and they want it to be 75 degrees... they're complaining because it's 47 degrees, and not even close to the average of 63 degrees, which would actually be pleasant for the average person wanting to enjoy spring temperatures and conditions. Let's be honest - this board has an anti-warm, pro-cold bias, and is simply not representative of reality for most people, despite what some may state here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WxUSAF Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Does nobody else think the relative merits of 55 and sunny vs. 70 in the shade have been discussed sufficiently? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FrederickWX Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Does nobody else think the relative merits of 55 and sunny vs. 70 in the shade have been discussed sufficiently? Nope, not until there's some severe or something else to track and discuss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mattie g Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 Does nobody else think the relative merits of 55 and sunny vs. 70 in the shade have been discussed sufficiently? I do. See my dead horse comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
forkyfork Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 August 2004 was one of the best summer months of my lifetime july 2011 is my favorite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RodneyS Posted April 4, 2013 Share Posted April 4, 2013 August 2004 was one of the best summer months of my lifetime The whole summer wasn't too shabby. DCA reached 91 on April 19, 2004, and got only one degree higher during the summer, with just eleven 90+ days for the entirety of 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deck Pic Posted April 5, 2013 Author Share Posted April 5, 2013 as i already mentioned, but I'll do it again since you missed it, I sat in a park with a ton of other people on March 10th at around 59-60 degrees and people were in shorts and short sleeves and bikinis, for hours and hours...on March 30th I was downtown with a million people at around 59-60 degrees and everyone was raving about how gorgeous it was....even with dew in the 30s, 75 in direct sun for hours is hot...and I maintain that people sitting in the sun for extended periods would rather have 65- 68 and sunny than 75....In the evening or in the shade is a different story....people may say 75, but if I plop them in a park on a blanket or in right field at the Nats game, they will quickly change their mind...nothwithstanding that a lot of people decry the quick spring, and appreciate 60s and sunny as long as we can get it....The idea that someone needs a jacket to sit outside on April 4th when it is 65 degrees is hilarious...people were laying in the park yesterday at 48 degrees and windy... yeah...i'm right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 Today might have been a 10 especially since it was looking rainy early in the week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellinwood Posted April 5, 2013 Share Posted April 5, 2013 yeah...i'm right I missed that part of your post. I did not mean that you needed a jacket in 65 degree weather... that's pants and t-shirt weather (or shorts if it's not too windy and you're in the sun all day). I was relating the jeans+jacket to the upper 40s/50s that people were experiencing at the time of the post and that those would be history once things warmed up. Was sitting on my patio earlier with 65 and a light breeze in my t-shirt and jeans and it was great. That's a 9/10 day in my book for early April. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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